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Is Europe Anti-Semitic and/or Anti-Islamic?

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Is it anti-Semitic and/or anti-Islam?

Yes
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No
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Yes but only Islam
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Yes but only Judaism
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Is Europe Anti-Semitic and/or Anti-Islamic?

Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:02 pm

I think that Europe is both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic. Scandinavia seems like the most "friendly" place in Europe towards foreigners. I have dual citizenship with Sweden and everyone there is nice and tolerant. UK, Southern Europe and Eastern Europe seem the most racist in my opinion due to modern white nationalism and an attitude that screams, "STOP WHITE GENOCIDE!!111"

So NSG, what do you think?
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:03 pm

white nationalism is practically non-existent and my country is one of the best as far as acceptance and integration of muslims go, especially compared to our southern neighbour. yawn.
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Postby Ponyfornia » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:03 pm

Not everyone in Europe is racist, anti-Islamic or anti-Semitic. I'm pretty sure it's a small, but vocal, minority.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 pm

Souseiseki wrote:white nationalism is practically non-existent and my country is one of the best as far as acceptance and integration of muslims go, especially compared to our southern neighbour. yawn.

Where are you from?

Ponyfornia wrote:Not everyone in Europe is racist, anti-Islamic or anti-Semitic. I'm pretty sure it's a small, but vocal, minority.

Germans, French and Austrians are some of the people whom are the nicest to Jews due to the events of WW2.
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Postby Nervium » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 pm

As a whole, no.

There are fringe groups, and they sometimes have frightning amounts of power (look at the PVV in the Netherlands), but as a whole Europe is neither vehemetly anti-Semetic or anti-Islamic, this does not mean we ought to tolerate extremism (from the religions in question nor political groups massing against them), nor should we not educate people about the dangers of both ideologies.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:Where are you from?


scotland
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:07 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:Where are you from?


scotland

That's nice. I like Scotland.
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Postby Blasveck » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:07 pm

Sources or Statistics on the level of Anti-Semitism in Europe would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:09 pm

As a rule, the more bigoted, right wing and generally insane a group is the more they are talked about in the media. This naturally tends to effect the perception of western society.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:11 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:I think that Europe is both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic.

Why?
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Postby Wintersun » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:17 pm

A large number of Europeans are anti-Islamic but I doubt more than half the total population is. Even less so for the anti-Semetic portion. Though this is a prime example of why the EU needs to disband all religious parties, starting with the CDU, CSU, and Golden Dawn. Just for shits and giggles.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:18 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:I think that Europe is both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic. Scandinavia seems like the most "friendly" place in Europe towards foreigners. I have dual citizenship with Sweden and everyone there is nice and tolerant. UK, Southern Europe and Eastern Europe seem the most racist in my opinion due to modern white nationalism and an attitude that screams, "STOP WHITE GENOCIDE!!111"

So NSG, what do you think?

So all we're going by here are your personal anecdotes? :eyebrow:
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Postby Kumrann » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:18 pm

Souseiseki wrote:white nationalism is practically non-existent and my country is one of the best as far as acceptance and integration of muslims go, especially compared to our southern neighbour. yawn.


Because the rest of the UK is suffering from a white nationalist epidemic ...
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:21 pm

Wintersun wrote:A large number of Europeans are anti-Islamic but I doubt more than half the total population is. Even less so for the anti-Semetic portion. Though this is a prime example of why the EU needs to disband all religious parties, starting with the CDU, CSU, and Golden Dawn. Just for shits and giggles.

Lol I will fund that

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Leningrad Union wrote:I think that Europe is both anti-Semitic and anti-Islamic. Scandinavia seems like the most "friendly" place in Europe towards foreigners. I have dual citizenship with Sweden and everyone there is nice and tolerant. UK, Southern Europe and Eastern Europe seem the most racist in my opinion due to modern white nationalism and an attitude that screams, "STOP WHITE GENOCIDE!!111"

So NSG, what do you think?

So all we're going by here are your personal anecdotes? :eyebrow:

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Postby Spartan Philidelphia » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:22 pm

From what I've seen on Nationstates, there is at least a good vocal minority of anti-Islamism in Europe.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Kumrann wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:white nationalism is practically non-existent and my country is one of the best as far as acceptance and integration of muslims go, especially compared to our southern neighbour. yawn.


Because the rest of the UK is suffering from a white nationalist epidemic ...

Yes because that's why the BNP (Fascists and White Supremacists) is so ridiculously small.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:23 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So all we're going by here are your personal anecdotes? :eyebrow:

Sure whatever you want my friend

So you don't have any sources or citations at all?
Hell of a way to start a thread.
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:24 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Leningrad Union wrote:
Sure whatever you want my friend

So you don't have any sources or citations at all?
Hell of a way to start a thread.

My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.
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Postby Kumrann » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:28 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Kumrann wrote:
Because the rest of the UK is suffering from a white nationalist epidemic ...

Yes because that's why the BNP (Fascists and White Supremacists) is so ridiculously small.


Well the BNP are a ridiculously small party - a party with 1 MEP and 2 Councillors isn't noteworthy. What is noteworthy is how much of a flash in a pan the BNP was and how there membership has collapsed. The largest racist group active in the UK is the EDL which has about 25,000 members - while this is more of a problem its also fringe considering we have a population of 63 million.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:29 pm

Leningrad Union wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you don't have any sources or citations at all?
Hell of a way to start a thread.

My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't need evidence for personal experience and what I've seen over the years.

Personal experience, which consists of...
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Postby Leningrad Union » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:29 pm

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:35 pm

Europe is a place with about 740 million people in 50 different countries. I don't believe we're anywhere near homogeneous enough to say either way on either question.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:38 pm

Spartan Philidelphia wrote:From what I've seen on Nationstates, there is at least a good vocal minority of anti-Islamism in Europe.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:39 pm

As a whole no, but there are some countries in West Europe who have a lot of people against Islam. I know there is rising islamaphobia in counties like Netherlands, France and even Germany.
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