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by Natapoc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:29 am
Typically I don't agree with glenn beck on anything much at all. If he was in charge I'd probably be executed for being a libertarian-communist promoter of earth, animal, and human liberation.
But a couple days ago glenn said something that was very true. Everyone who believes in human caused climate change has an obligation to become vegan today!
According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, composed of many of the top climatologists in the world, the meat industry causes more of the human caused climate change then anything else including ALL the worlds transportation put together (cars, trains, airplanes, private jets, ect.)
Glenn beck blasts al gore for not being a vegetarian:
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTUu92JhgEPeta joins in:
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEs-PtMRooYDon't be a hypocrite like al gore. Do as glenn beck and peta says and be vegan today

It is the most easy thing you can (not) do to reduce human caused climate change.
FARM (not associated with peta or glenn beck or me) gives free vegetarian starter kits. You can order one here:
http://www.vegkit.org/What are your thoughts on this? I never thought I'd side with glenn beck on anything. Does it mean I'm turning into a conservative? Should I go read more ayn rand?
What does it mean that PETA and Glenn beck agree on something?
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by The Norse Hordes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:32 am
Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
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by EvilDarkMagicians » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:33 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
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by Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:33 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
I agree entirely. Neither have any positive value.
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by The Norse Hordes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:34 am
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:The Norse Hordes wrote:Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
Neither. ITs my opinion on both.
If you think its either, take it up with moderation.
You seem to have a problem with this. Disagreeing with you or saying something you dont like =/= trolling.
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by Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:34 am
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

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by Free-Beings » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:35 am
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:The Norse Hordes wrote:Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
fuck PETA, do you know half of the things they do?
Tasbikistan wrote: I also don't like Glenn Beck. If you rearrange the letters in his name, take them all out, and add in "s-t-u-p-i-d" you get stupid, thus his name is an anagram for stupid.
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by DrunkenDove » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:35 am
But if you don't eat animals, they won't have any economic value and therefore won't be bred and will instead be slaughtered. Much like what happens to male milk calves in Britian because the British won't eat veal. PETA should be encouraging people to eat animals.
Also, there's no need to "believe" in climate change any more than there is to "believe" in erosion.
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by Natapoc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:36 am
Conserative Morality wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

No you can disagree all you like. But you should do so in the form of an argument with actual points rather then profanities. Did you watch the video?
Why do you agree/disagree with the premise CM?
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by Goath » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:36 am
In the end, PETA and Glenn Beck ARE right (something I never thought I'd say...). The methane produced by herds of cattle...it's shocking.
Am I going to be a vegan? No. Just like I'm not going to stop driving my car.
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by JuNii » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:37 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:Fuck PETA. Fuck Glenn Beck.
Ewww... do I reallly have to?
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by The Norse Hordes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:37 am
Goath wrote:In the end, PETA and Glenn Beck ARE right (something I never thought I'd say...). The methane produced by herds of cattle...it's shocking.
Am I going to be a vegan? No. Just like I'm not going to stop driving my car.
Just do what I did and greatly decrease your meat intake. I am for all intents and purposes a vegetarian. But Im not becoming vegan, because, well I wont even get into it.
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by Fassitude » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am
Natapoc wrote:TWhat are your thoughts on this? I never thought I'd side with glenn beck on anything. Does it mean I'm turning into a conservative? Should I go read more ayn rand?
Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day. Yes, veganism has a much, much, much lower environmental impact. Yes, people shouldn't eat or use animal products. It's like stating the sky is blue.
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by DrunkenDove » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am
Conserative Morality wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

There's a world of difference between disagreeing with some one, and saying fuck you.
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by The Norse Hordes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am
Fassitude wrote:Natapoc wrote:TWhat are your thoughts on this? I never thought I'd side with glenn beck on anything. Does it mean I'm turning into a conservative? Should I go read more ayn rand?
Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day. Yes, veganism has a much, much, much lower environmental impact. Yes, people shouldn't eat or use animal products. It's like stating the sky is blue.
Or not.
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by EvilDarkMagicians » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am
Conserative Morality wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

I can disagreeing without saying 'fuck them'.

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by Corntownian » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:38 am
They're right but since i'm practically vegetarian anyway I won't have to change much
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by Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:39 am
Natapoc wrote:No you can disagree all you like. But you should do so in the form of an argument with actual points rather then profanities. Did you watch the video?
I can disagree any damn way I want, and yes. They were both unsourced, biased, and entirely unreliable.
Why do you agree/disagree with the premise CM?
Because, oh, I don't know, maybe because it's all nonsense? Because it has no strong proof for it? Because in the end, it's just another pathetic attempt at guilting people into turning to a vegetarian lifestyle? Because it's an appeal to emotion?
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by The Norse Hordes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:39 am
DrunkenDove wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

There's a world of difference between disagreeing with some one, and saying fuck you.
I dont think I said fuck you to the poster. THAT would be trolling.
Glenn Beck doesnt post here. And we can attack organizations all we want.
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by Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:40 am
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:I can disagreeing without saying 'fuck them'.

Yeah, and? By disagreeing and saying 'fuck them', you are neither flamebaiting nor trolling. However, by accusing someone who does choose to say 'fuck them' of flamebaiting and trolling, you are proving that you don't know the meaning of either accusation.
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by Conserative Morality » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:40 am
DrunkenDove wrote:There's a world of difference between disagreeing with some one, and saying fuck you.
Yet the two are not mutually exclusive.
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by DrunkenDove » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:41 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:DrunkenDove wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Nice first response, troll and flame bait much?
I love this. When you disagree with the vegans, suddenly, you're trolling and flamebaiting.

There's a world of difference between disagreeing with some one, and saying fuck you.
I dont think I said fuck you to the poster. THAT would be trolling.
Glenn Beck doesnt post here. And we can attack organizations all we want.
Point conceded.
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by Natapoc » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:41 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:Fassitude wrote:Natapoc wrote:TWhat are your thoughts on this? I never thought I'd side with glenn beck on anything. Does it mean I'm turning into a conservative? Should I go read more ayn rand?
Even a broken clock shows the right time twice a day. Yes, veganism has a much, much, much lower environmental impact. Yes, people shouldn't eat or use animal products. It's like stating the sky is blue.
Or not.
Instead of just saying "or not." perhaps you can locate a source or an argument that contradicts what the sources in the OP (including the intergovernmental panel on climate change) said about it?
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by EvilDarkMagicians » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:42 am
Ok, going back on track.
I think it's sure to say that Glenn Beck is right on the money.
Al Gore is being a hypocrite.
Plus, who eats tofurkey?

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by Fassitude » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:43 am
The Norse Hordes wrote:Or not.
Well, there are always those who live in delusional denial and would like to claim the sky chequered. Doesn't make it so. It just makes them loons.
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