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What do you think of Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow?

Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:38 pm

Since there's a Glenn Beck thread, I'll start an Olbermann & Maddow thread, too, if only because I've wanted to ask a couple of people who say they don't like them why they don't. I mean, I recognize that they're both partisan progressives, but I've never once heard either one of them actually lie- which is something I can't say about LImbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck.

So- tell me- what's your opinion of Keith and Rachel?
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:38 pm

I like Keith Olbermann as much as I like Glenn Beck.

Rachel Maddow is OK, however. I think she at least tries to stick to fact.
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:39 pm

Theyre okay, Maddow can get on my nerves sometimes, but, I like Olbermann...

Personally I prefer Mathews to both...

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Postby Corntownian » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:42 pm

Pompous idiots

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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:42 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:I like Keith Olbermann as much as I like Glenn Beck.

Rachel Maddow is OK, however. I think she at least tries to stick to fact.


I guess that's my question- I understand why people don't like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh- they lie to their viewers. I can honestly say I've watched Keith Olbermann for years and every single time he's misspoken he's corrected himself.

Now, I'm a crazy liberal, so i'm sure i'm not objective. What's it about Olbermann you don't like?
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Postby Flameswroth » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:42 pm

Didn't Keith Olbermann pull a cry tactic regarding Proposition 8 or some such garble? Yeah not my cup of tea. He's far less entertaining than Beck is, IMHO. And since that's the only reason I watch either of them, it kind of puts him farther down the ladder.

I have no idea who Rachel Maddow is though.
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Postby Corntownian » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:43 pm

Goath wrote: What's it about Olbermann you don't like?


His personality mainly

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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:44 pm

Flameswroth wrote:Didn't Keith Olbermann pull a cry tactic regarding Proposition 8 or some such garble? Yeah not my cup of tea. He's far less entertaining than Beck is, IMHO. And since that's the only reason I watch either of them, it kind of puts him farther down the ladder.

I have no idea who Rachel Maddow is though.


Olbermann did do a "Special Comment" on Prop 8- something I think every single person should watch if they are on the fence about same-sex marriage. It was honestly quite beautiful.
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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:45 pm

Corntownian wrote:
Goath wrote: What's it about Olbermann you don't like?


His personality mainly


He is pompous, that is true.
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Postby Svenen » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:45 pm

They're exactly what I would expect them to be.
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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:46 pm

Svenen wrote:They're exactly what I would expect them to be.


and what does that mean?
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:46 pm

Goath wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I like Keith Olbermann as much as I like Glenn Beck.

Rachel Maddow is OK, however. I think she at least tries to stick to fact.


I guess that's my question- I understand why people don't like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh- they lie to their viewers. I can honestly say I've watched Keith Olbermann for years and every single time he's misspoken he's corrected himself.

Now, I'm a crazy liberal, so i'm sure i'm not objective. What's it about Olbermann you don't like?

It's his overall demeanour. He's so staunchly anti-Republican that it gets quite tiresome. I don't see the level of actual lying with him that I do with Glenn and his crew, but the bias is annoying. I also several nights in a row where it was just a pissing match between him and Bill O'Reilly, instead of actually reporting news.
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Postby Jordaxia » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:47 pm

Eh, just the same as the right wingers - the key difference is that, being on the left wing, they don't have to just make things up. Sure, they might omit the truth, but they don't need to tell such direct lies. Says more about their political views than them as people, though.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:47 pm

Maurepas wrote:Theyre okay, Maddow can get on my nerves sometimes, but, I like Olbermann...

Personally I prefer Mathews to both...

I'd rather watch Keith Olbermann than Chris Matthews though. That jackass says his opinion, and then yells over his guests so they get no airtime.
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Postby Svenen » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:47 pm

Goath wrote:and what does that mean?

They're satisfying to their audience. And, if the audience is unlucky enough to be illiterate, maybe something they didn't know.
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:48 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Theyre okay, Maddow can get on my nerves sometimes, but, I like Olbermann...

Personally I prefer Mathews to both...

I'd rather watch Keith Olbermann than Chris Matthews though. That jackass says his opinion, and then yells over his guests so they get no airtime.

You say that like its a bad thing, :lol2:

I listen to Mississippi News Radio on the way home, so, when I get there its nice to hear someone I agree with do it, ;)

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:48 pm

Goath wrote:Since there's a Glenn Beck thread, I'll start an Olbermann & Maddow thread, too, if only because I've wanted to ask a couple of people who say they don't like them why they don't. I mean, I recognize that they're both partisan progressives, but I've never once heard either one of them actually lie- which is something I can't say about LImbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck.

So- tell me- what's your opinion of Keith and Rachel?


My opinion is pretty much the same as yours. They may have a bias, but I have at least some respect for them due to their progressive attitudes and they at least try to tell the truth. That more than I can say for Beck and company.
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Postby Tunizcha » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:49 pm

Olbermann could have been O'Reilly, if the tides of time had acted differently. They have very similar personalities, and pretty much only fight because they are so alike.

I like Maddow, though. She tries to be factual as possible, most of the time.

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Postby CommunistSovietAmerica » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:53 pm

Corntownian wrote:Pompous idiots


Couldn't of said it any better my friend.
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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:53 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Goath wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I like Keith Olbermann as much as I like Glenn Beck.

Rachel Maddow is OK, however. I think she at least tries to stick to fact.


I guess that's my question- I understand why people don't like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh- they lie to their viewers. I can honestly say I've watched Keith Olbermann for years and every single time he's misspoken he's corrected himself.

Now, I'm a crazy liberal, so i'm sure i'm not objective. What's it about Olbermann you don't like?

It's his overall demeanour. He's so staunchly anti-Republican that it gets quite tiresome. I don't see the level of actual lying with him that I do with Glenn and his crew, but the bias is annoying. I also several nights in a row where it was just a pissing match between him and Bill O'Reilly, instead of actually reporting news.


I get ya. The fact he doesn't lie, in my eyes, makes him better than the folk on the right, but i can see where you are coming from.
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Postby Goath » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:54 pm

Jordaxia wrote:Eh, just the same as the right wingers - the key difference is that, being on the left wing, they don't have to just make things up. Sure, they might omit the truth, but they don't need to tell such direct lies. Says more about their political views than them as people, though.


doesn't the fact the don't ile make them...better? i mean, on a moral level?
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:56 pm

He yells, a lot.

They all do, I don't like yelling very much.
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Postby Augarundus » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:56 pm

I feel that Olbermann and Beck are both commentators, and not reporters. Thus, I don't dislike either for 'bias'.

I agree with Beck politically, and disagree with Olbermann. But I don't dislike him because he's liberal.

I dislike Olbermann because he's dismissive, self-centered, arrogant, and insulting. Beck isn't.

O'Reilly, though I like him and recognize he's not so impulsively aggressive as Olbermann, does share some characteristics in that O'Reilly can be brutal with the people he interviews. O'Reilly's anger, however, is justifiable (he gets mad at people like Barney Frank, who's a blatant liar. He DOESN'T attack people like Obama during their interview, because he respects him as a good person).
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Postby Svenen » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:56 pm

Goath wrote:doesn't the fact the don't ile make them...better? i mean, on a moral level?

No, morals don't exist.

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Postby Fassitude » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:58 pm

Maddow is super-cute, and rare for someone from the USA, she has an accent that doesn't want to make me q-tip my ears until they bleed and I can no longer hear without osseous conduction aids.

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