The US has refused to extradite its agents. Hopefully countries will follow Switzerland's example with Roman Polanski and hand them over to Italy if they ever enter their country.
Last edited by GetBert on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
The US has refused to extradite its agents. Hopefully countries will follow Switzerland's example with Roman Polanski and hand them over to Italy if they ever enter their country.
your article says 22 agents.
there was an Italian agent too.
As for the CIA agents they will be able to leave the country at whim, as the US will give them different names and passports from now on.
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greed and death wrote:As for the CIA agents they will be able to leave the country at whim, as the US will give them different names and passports from now on.
Plus they probably have enough Italian to blag themselves out of the country, seeing as it's in the Schengen zone and they can just walk over the border to France.
greed and death wrote:As for the CIA agents they will be able to leave the country at whim, as the US will give them different names and passports from now on.
Plus they probably have enough Italian to blag themselves out of the country, seeing as it's in the Schengen zone and they can just walk over the border to France.
Were they in Italy I think they were tried in absentina?
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greed and death wrote:As for the CIA agents they will be able to leave the country at whim, as the US will give them different names and passports from now on.
Plus they probably have enough Italian to blag themselves out of the country, seeing as it's in the Schengen zone and they can just walk over the border to France.
Were they in Italy I think they were tried in absentina?
GetBert wrote:The US has refused to extradite its agents. Hopefully countries will follow Switzerland's example with Roman Polanski and hand them over to Italy if they ever enter their country.
The CIA are powerful people, they could enter any European nation get arrested and be on a U.S. Air Force C-130 back to the states that night. Kidnapping sounds kind of harsh, but then again I only was able to read your opinion because your link is broken.
Another example of America's historical "Some people are More Equal Than Others" attitude which is only going to be highlighted in conjunction with the Polanski extradition.
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While they'll probably never face justice, I do hope some of them screw up and go to the wrong damn country and get bagged.
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Rutuma wrote:it was legal at lhe time and they were told by the goverment to do it so they are innocent
"Just following orders" isn't a viable defense. If the orders are unethical, it is your duty not to obey them.
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Rhodmhire wrote:So because I live in an area heavily populated by obese men, I get the pleasure of staring at a plethora of man-tits all day, but not tit-tits?
That doesn't seem very fair.
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I hope no one disagrees. I'd hate for you to...go missing.
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Gauthier wrote:Another example of America's historical "Some people are More Equal Than Others" attitude which is only going to be highlighted in conjunction with the Polanski extradition.
Well, let's not pretend the Italian court was much different in that regard:
Citing state secrecy, the judge did not convict five high-ranking Italians charged in the abduction, including a former head of Italian military intelligence, Nicolò Pollari.
In May, Mr. Magi ruled that there was enough evidence to proceed with the case even after Italy’s Constitutional Court ruled in March that any evidence of coordination between the Italian secret services and the C.I.A. violated state secrecy rules and was therefore inadmissible.
So, when they cooperate, it's a "state secret" and so kidnapping is perfectly fine. Well, as long those people involved aren't retarded:
Prosecutors were able to reconstruct his disappearance using cellphone records traced to the American agents. The operatives used false names but left a paper trail of unencrypted cellphone records and credit card bills at luxury hotels in Milan.
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Gauthier wrote:Another example of America's historical "Some people are More Equal Than Others" attitude which is only going to be highlighted in conjunction with the Polanski extradition.
Totally different circumstance. Polanski was extradited by Switzerland, back to the US, and is either a Polish or French Citizen; Switzerland has no special interests in this case. US courts have repeatedly found that US citizens cannot be extradited from the US, but have no problems doing so with foreign nationals - just as Switzerland is doing. And the US is hardly alone in this determination.
Sitspot wrote:This would have been a lot more impressive if they'd convicted the 5 Italians on trial too. It is hard to applaud such blatant hypocrisy.
by GetBert » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:44 am 
