The eternal Hip hop question

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Which is better

Graduation
6
17%
T.I. V.S. T.I.P
3
8%
Theater of the mind
2
6%
Rebirth
2
6%
Blueprint 3
7
19%
Any other hip hop album
16
44%
 
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Postby Surote » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:40 pm

T.I. V.S. T.I.P
Theater of the mind
Graduation
Rebirth
Blueprint 3

The songs above are just sample from the albums that best describe the albums message and style

I think T.I. V.s. T.I.P and Blueprint 3 are better what ya'll think

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Postby Bavin » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:42 pm

I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...
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Postby Seraph Down » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:43 pm

In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.
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Postby Brewdomia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:44 pm

TI vs TIP all the way.

In before Rap is bashed from every page till it's eventual lock. :P
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:44 pm

Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p
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Postby Surote » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:45 pm

Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right

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Postby Brewdomia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:46 pm

Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


Twas a joke, Surote. I found it quite amusing, me, a lover of rap.
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Postby Korintar » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:47 pm

Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


I have to agree with Bavin... how does one dismantle that genre?
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Postby Drachmar » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:48 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p


Rap =/= hip hop

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Postby Sarkhaan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:50 pm

I'm happily impressed by Blueprint 3. I haven't had the chance to give the others a real, hardcore listening, but that in itself says something.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:53 pm

Drachmar wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p


Rap =/= hip hop


I never said it was, but it is a large part of hip hop.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:55 pm

Korintar wrote:
Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


I have to agree with Bavin... how does one dismantle that genre?

By...not listening to things you dislike?

Seriously. It isn't complex. I dislike Celine Dion, so I don't listen to her music.

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Postby Barzan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:57 pm

Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...

Sounds good to me.

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p

Yeah, too bad it's not quite the same. Run DMC, Will Smith and the like are ok. I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to them, but I wouldn't want to beat someone to death for playing it too loudly on the train.

Surote wrote:Your over 30 right

I'm very close.
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Postby Osteia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:12 pm

Hip hop/Rap seems to be going nowhere these days. Alot of senceless bullshit. That is why i stick to older rappers, kanye West is a weirdo. Graduation was totally over rated in my opinion. T.I is alright. He's doing his own thing but it still resembles all those other southern rapper styles. Why the he;; does everyone like Lil wayne so much? WTF is he saying at times..it makes no logical sence. YES the man can rap, but he should do that more than he "UghhgHHH'S" in the microphone. God thats annoying.


Now on a different level. Ludacris has always had flow. Intelligent rymes, his appearance is good. Now ladies and gentleman i saved the best for last, Jay-z's the blue print is amasing. Even though it was produced by Mr.Kanye West (Douchebag). Well done Jay Z, another score for you.

I hate this new age rap, most of it is SHIT..i mean SHIIIIT. I will say again, i stick to old rappers when i choose to listen to it.

Bone Thugz N Harmony
Tupac **Bunch of new music just released, a canadian company bought Death Row records, unreleased tracks are now out there**
Notorious B.I.G
Ice Cube
Dr.Dre
Eminem
Nas
P Diddy **Back when he was Puff Daddy**
Shyne
Kurupt
Busta Rymes
Mobb Deep
Method Man
Redman
Common
Snoop Dogg
Scarface


...it goes on. When a list is posted with some of those albums i will have more of a choice. Have to think a little harder :). Im only 22 but i listen to ALOT of music, from the Big bands of the 30's, Frank Sinatra, Glen Miller, Bing Crosby, to music in the 80's.. KISS, Led Zepplin, ACDC, Hair bands like Dokken, Ratt...ect ect... MUSIC is a big part of my life. I live it.
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Postby Druidville » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:30 pm

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. :D

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Postby Drachmar » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:35 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Drachmar wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p


Rap =/= hip hop


I never said it was, but it is a large part of hip hop.


It's a large part of popular hip hop, yet it's not always the best example of decent hip hop out there.

I mean, I'm sure some of the crap that's put out there these days makes Grandmaster Flash (the master of turntablism) cringe. I'm more of an early 80's hip hop fan, when the music was stepping out from the ashes of disco and becoming the force in electronic music. Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Queen Latifa, etc. Those acts defined hip hop as something that could affect social change.

Then came MC Hammer...

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Postby The Adrian Empire » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:39 pm

Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


I hate rap, and I'm 17, though I have been said to have the mental maturity of 65 year old
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Postby Bavin » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:42 pm

The Adrian Empire wrote:
Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


I hate rap, and I'm 17, though I have been said to have the mental maturity of 65 year old

And I've hated rap and hip-hop since I was 12, and am now 15...

Its rather suprising that I hate it considering most hip-hop fans are suburban white kids like me...
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Postby Skibereen » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:49 pm

Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right

Hip Hop and Rap are over 30 so get over yourself. All the current mode of hip/hop and rap produce are Ringtone stars hardly worth oxygen wasted on their pathetic hooks.
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Postby Osteia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:53 pm

Drachmar wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Drachmar wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Seraph Down wrote:In before "rap is crap"

Blueprint 3, Paper Trail, Graduation.

edit: ninja'd by Bavin. I told you so.


Rap is crap though. There's like three good songs. And they were all made 10 years ago :p


Rap =/= hip hop


I never said it was, but it is a large part of hip hop.


It's a large part of popular hip hop, yet it's not always the best example of decent hip hop out there.

I mean, I'm sure some of the crap that's put out there these days makes Grandmaster Flash (the master of turntablism) cringe. I'm more of an early 80's hip hop fan, when the music was stepping out from the ashes of disco and becoming the force in electronic music. Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Queen Latifa, etc. Those acts defined hip hop as something that could affect social change.

Then came MC Hammer...



Yeah! Im into that, thats taking it way back. Zapp & Roger back, electronic music.

And as for "Ringtones", i declare ..BULLSHIT.. i do not own a ring tone. :)

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Postby Brogavia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:54 pm

Surote wrote:
Bavin wrote:I thought the eternal Hip-Hop question was the best way to get rid of it? I'm all for a Final Solution...


Your over 30 right


I get it. You think because he dislikes shit-hop he must be "old". And anyone who is over 30 is pretty much dead anyway right? Everyone over 30 is too old to remeber what it was like to be young and so they keep young people down. Right?

Or maybe your just 15 and because of the way your brain is changing you have a persecution complex. Guess what it passes. Very quickly. Trust me, I'm 17.

Hip-hop has been dead since the late 1990s. Before it got hijacked by pop culture. Now its broken down into two groups. Those who are in it for the money and make their music for MTV so they can sell more records, and the ones who are in it for the money and go for shock value to sell more records.

Don't even get me started on "sampling" aka stealing.


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Postby Andaluciae » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:56 pm

Hip hop's not my thing. More into classic rock, metal and a fringe taste for European techno.

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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:58 pm

Brogavia wrote:And anyone who is over 30 is pretty much dead anyway right?

I feel that way at times... Although that currently has more to do with having the flu than with my age...
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Postby Skibereen » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:59 pm

I beg to differ with regards to certain issues of quality, but its pretty much given that a Radio Artist is total shit. Hip-Hop and Country music were the last holdouts from Whoredom, and both have fallen to the 14 year old white kids. Nothing wrong with that, its just the way music goes.
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Postby Drachmar » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:00 pm

Osteia wrote:
Drachmar wrote:
It's a large part of popular hip hop, yet it's not always the best example of decent hip hop out there.

I mean, I'm sure some of the crap that's put out there these days makes Grandmaster Flash (the master of turntablism) cringe. I'm more of an early 80's hip hop fan, when the music was stepping out from the ashes of disco and becoming the force in electronic music. Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Queen Latifa, etc. Those acts defined hip hop as something that could affect social change.

Then came MC Hammer...



Yeah! Im into that, thats taking it way back. Zapp & Roger back, electronic music.

And as for "Ringtones", i declare ..BULLSHIT.. i do not own a ring tone. :)


I made a ringtone for Glenn Beck's "get off my phone" tirade. I use it for work. It's hilarious. :p

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