DRAFT: Commend 10000 Islands

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DRAFT: Commend 10000 Islands

Postby Repubblica Italia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:27 pm

NOTING that 10000 Island's TITO organization has defended many regions;

ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission;

HEREBY NOTING that TITO has saved billions of people and thousands of nations from oppression;

REALIZING that 10000 Islands was the sole creator of TITO;

CONGRATULATING 10000 Islands on their successes;

ALSO NOTING that TITO has liberated the oppressed, many times;

BELIEVING that their first Commendation was unfairly repealed;

REALIZING that it is time to give it back.

The WA hereby COMMENDS 10000 Islands for a second time.

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:26 pm

This commendation is a means against itself, because the old one was repealed to fix errors. This one mentions how the last one was "unfairly repealed". At least switch the word "TITO" with "10000 islands", so your still talking about the region and not about the military organisation based in the region. Fenda's these days... :unsure:
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:34 am

ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission;


its
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Postby Unibot » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:17 am

Bears Armed wrote:
ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission;


its


Sort of funny that it doesn't use an apostrophe. Usually when you denote ownership over something like,

Unibot's proposal, or the Bear's long, long sleep.

You use an apostrophe,

I wouldn't think 'it's 1000th mission;' would be any different.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:32 am

Unibot wrote:I wouldn't think 'it's 1000th mission;' would be any different.

Well, it would. "It's" means something entirely different.
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Postby Naivetry » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:10 am

Grammar geek:
The apostrophe primarily denotes missing letters; that we use it for possession is due to the loss of the case system in English. Originally English formed its possessive by changing the end of many words to add an -es... over time, the e was dropped and its absence shown by the use of an apostrophe.
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In the latter case, it originally marked merely the omission of e in writing, as in fox's, James's, and was equally common in the nominative plural, esp. of proper names and foreign words (as folio's = folioes); it was gradually disused in the latter, and extended to all possessives, even where e had not been previously written, as in man's, children's, conscience' sake. This was not yet established in 1725.

I think you will need a stronger argument for this Commendation than a simple restatement (in better English) of the first one. It would be good to show, for instance, what else there is to 10kI besides TITO, to discuss the reasons why the repeal was wrong (impossible to write a "neutral" Commendation, TITO is not an extra-regional alliance) and that since repeals cannot, in fact, be repealed themselves, a correction is needed in order to remove these errors from the record.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:16 am

Unibot wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:
ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission;


its


Sort of funny that it doesn't use an apostrophe. Usually when you denote ownership over something like,

Unibot's proposal, or the Bear's long, long sleep.

You use an apostrophe,

I wouldn't think 'it's 1000th mission;' would be any different.

"hi's"? ;)
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Postby Zoldorstan » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:33 am

"billions of people" there's not even a billion people that play this game.
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Postby Philimbesi » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:24 am

Didn't we just do this?
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Postby New Olwe » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:28 am

Zoldorstan wrote:"billions of people" there's not even a billion people that play this game.


They're talking about the populations of the countries in the game, not the players.

Philimbesi wrote:Didn't we just do this?


Yes, and we're going to keep on doing this as long as there's a Security Council... if this commendation passes some raider country will come along with a repeal, then someone else will want to commend the defenders again. It's an endless loop, a rupture in the space-time continuum, likely caused by aliens who want to take over our planet.
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Postby Philimbesi » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:10 am

... and this is productive?
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Postby Unibotian WASC Mission » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:35 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Unibot wrote:I wouldn't think 'it's 1000th mission;' would be any different.

Well, it would. "It's" means something entirely different.


I know it does. Because "It's" a Contraction.

You're still talking to the diehard anti-grammar geek of the Institute of anti-grammar geeks of anti-grammar-geekia. I'd say use the "'s" in both instances as both contractions and possessions use apostrophes in modern English -- obviously the author would mean the usage that makes logical sense.

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Postby New Olwe » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:45 am

Philimbesi wrote:... and this is productive?


No. Did I not state how unproductive the Security Council is clearly enough in my previous comment?
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:43 am

Ummm, here's an alternative version :p

NOTING that 10000 Island's TITO organization has meddled into affairs not of their business;

ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission of playing NS "police";

"HEREBY NOTING that TITO has saved billions of people and thousands of nations from oppression;" Billions of people? You can't be serious?

REALIZING that 10000 Islands was the sole creator of the terrorist organization TITO;

CONDEMNING 10000 Islands on their imperialistic actions;

ALSO NOTING that TITO has oppressed, many times;

BELIEVING that their first Commendation was fairly repealed;

REALIZING what's done is done.

The WA hereby doesn't bother to COMMEND 10000 Islands for a second time.
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Postby Philimbesi » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:56 am

How about we don't and then we just tell everyone we did...
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Postby Station Man » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:59 am

When will this madness end!?

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Postby Crabulonia » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:59 am

Cinistra wrote:Ummm, here's an alternative version :p

NOTING that 10000 Island's TITO organization has meddled into affairs not of their business;

ALSO NOTING that TITO recently went on it's 1000th mission of playing NS "police";

"HEREBY NOTING that TITO has saved billions of people and thousands of nations from oppression;" Billions of people? You can't be serious?

REALIZING that 10000 Islands was the sole creator of the terrorist organization TITO;

CONDEMNING 10000 Islands on their imperialistic actions;

ALSO NOTING that TITO has oppressed, many times;

BELIEVING that their first Commendation was fairly repealed;

REALIZING what's done is done.

The WA hereby doesn't bother to COMMEND 10000 Islands for a second time.


Nice.

But in all seriousness, this is why I left WA (oh noes! Anti-WA spam)

But the big problem is that WA is not a neutral organisation it professes to be. Many stand on one side of the Defender/Raiding game and many stand on the other. The truly "neutral" people vote for whatever proposal has the most subjective words in it's content.

Also personal note. How the hell has TITO saved billions of people? I know you say population of all the countres it has saved but seriously? They kicked them out of a region, they hardly were going to massacre population. (Though if that was a game option I'm sure there would be a shocking quantity of genocide in NS)
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Postby Cinistra » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:18 pm

Station Man wrote:When will this madness end!?


Ever an optimist, eh?
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:40 pm

Stop making raiding/defending a basis on commend/condemn WA resolutions!

The politics related to this issue is too unstable and insecure, and it's causing a constant back-and-forth argument between 10000 Islands and their opposition. No one can be absolutely positive of 10000 Isles' contributions being helpful, detrimental, or deceitful (or even all three), and that their opposition is made up of raiders, deceived defenders, or raiders disguised as defenders (or even all three!).

I'm not against or for 10000 Islands, I'm just getting sick of this unnecessary foolishness. Fight your battles without bothering the entire world about it.

This fight does NOT belong in the WA! It's wasting time and it has become a nuisance.

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Postby Gobbannium » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:14 am

Unibotian WASC Mission wrote:You're still talking to the diehard anti-grammar geek of the Institute of anti-grammar geeks of anti-grammar-geekia. I'd say use the "'s" in both instances as both contractions and possessions use apostrophes in modern English -- obviously the author would mean the usage that makes logical sense.

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Consistent Man notes that no other possessive pronoun uses an apostrophe, and most of them don't end with an 's'.

Meanwhile, back on topic, give it a rest. I'm getting irritated enough with this broken record to contemplate a raft of condemnations against the lot of you, raider and defender, not so much for being self-absorbed tossers as insisting on waving your willies in public.

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Postby New Olwe » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:44 am

Gobbannium wrote:Meanwhile, back on topic, give it a rest. I'm getting irritated enough with this broken record to contemplate a raft of condemnations against the lot of you, raider and defender, not so much for being self-absorbed tossers as insisting on waving your willies in public.


Speaking as the representative of a defender nation, I have to say... there's no law against public masturbation in New Olwe.

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Postby Cinistra » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:30 am

A mean old man wrote:Stop making raiding/defending a basis on commend/condemn WA resolutions!

The politics related to this issue is too unstable and insecure, and it's causing a constant back-and-forth argument between 10000 Islands and their opposition. No one can be absolutely positive of 10000 Isles' contributions being helpful, detrimental, or deceitful (or even all three), and that their opposition is made up of raiders, deceived defenders, or raiders disguised as defenders (or even all three!).

I'm not against or for 10000 Islands, I'm just getting sick of this unnecessary foolishness. Fight your battles without bothering the entire world about it.

This fight does NOT belong in the WA! It's wasting time and it has become a nuisance.

Thank you,
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I am sorry, Mean Old Man, but any topic brought up by the member states belongs to the WA. I can share your view though, those C&C resolutions concerned with raiders/defenders are probably boring to anyone not involved in these matters. However, if I am not mistaken the "Condemn Macedon" resolution did let the cat out of the box, causing C&C resolutions to take over the WASC completely. However, it would help a lot if defenders did constrain themselves a bit. The "Commend 10000 Islands" and "Commend Grub" was proposed on their merits as defenders only (can't really see it's an criteria for being commended at all). Such machinations in favour of one part will consequently activate responses from the other side.
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Postby A mean old man » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:01 pm

Cinistra wrote:I am sorry, Mean Old Man, but any topic brought up by the member states belongs to the WA. I can share your view though, those C&C resolutions concerned with raiders/defenders are probably boring to anyone not involved in these matters. However, if I am not mistaken the "Condemn Macedon" resolution did let the cat out of the box, causing C&C resolutions to take over the WASC completely. However, it would help a lot if defenders did constrain themselves a bit. The "Commend 10000 Islands" and "Commend Grub" was proposed on their merits as defenders only (can't really see it's an criteria for being commended at all). Such machinations in favour of one part will consequently activate responses from the other side.


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Accidentally posted in there because I cut my text and pressed back to check something outside of the forum, then went in there because I had been quite active in there as well.

I'm sure you'd find my response either way; I'm just clearing that up. I'm a bit scatterbrained sometimes.
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