NATION

PASSWORD

Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
Post a reply

Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

Yes
627
84%
No
70
9%
Maybe
47
6%
 
Total votes : 744
User avatar
The De Danann Nation
Diplomat
 
Posts: 932
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Iron Fist Consumerists

Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

Postby The De Danann Nation » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:26 pm

Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact but wanted to see how NS users personally feel about the matter.
Last edited by The De Danann Nation on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Atheism and theism are two sides of the same coin. The theist believe in an eternal soul, the atheist believe in none. Most theist believe in a Higher Power, atheist do not. One thing both of these two have in common: they're both so damn sure of themselves.
Top
User avatar
Napkiraly
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10302
Founded: Aug 02, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Napkiraly » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:27 pm

Yes.
Co-Founder of the CSP. TG for info or applications.
NSG's Born Again Valley Girl
Somewhere between a Progressive Capitalist and Democratic Market Socialist. Haven't really decided yet.
If you want to add me on Steam, just search Napki. It'll be obvious which one I am.
Epic quotes are epic.
Ifreann wrote:There is much we can learn from the noble bonobo, and I fling my shit at all who disagree.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Madagascar franchise wrote:They are both aimed at young kids.


So was Michael Jackson's junk. What's your point?

If you want to summon me to a thread/discussion just post "I summon thee, Napkiroth" while linking to this and I'll try and get to it as soon as possible.
Top
User avatar
Unchecked Expansion
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5600
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Unchecked Expansion » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 pm

I believe you should distinguish between the theory of evolution and the fact of evolution. They are two different things.
I do think that the theory of evolution represents the best explanation we have so far for the mechanisms of evolution. but I wouldn't call it a fact. It's a theory, like the theory of gravity (but much better understood)
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50233
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact but wanted to see how NS users personally feel about the matter.

I personally feel that you're very wrong about what a theory is in a scientific context.
I believe in the magic of friendship, the wholly awesome bronydom, the conventions of fans,
the forgiveness of haters, the resurrection of faith in humanity, and love everlasting.
In nomine poni, et filly, et spiritus stable
Ifreann has fingers in all the pies! ~ Hatters
This guy. He knows shit. ~ Quebec and Atlantic Canada
Oh my God! They did it! They chose Ifreann! :o ~ Gravlen
But... Ifreann... I love you! ~ Anachronous Rex
Ifreann, I have never liked you as much as I do now... ~ Thafoo
I like you. You can come over my house and fuck my sister. ~ Helicthon
I have hand picked ifreann to lead this world as my second. ~ Galloism
You know, when I read your post, I imagine it sounds like Twilight Sparkle's voice? ~ The Grey Wolf
I, for one, welcome our new Iffy overlord. ~ Nadkor
Discord of the NS Pony Threads
Top
User avatar
Khadgar
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6672
Founded: Antiquity
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Khadgar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 pm

Your OP indicates you don't actually know the meaning of the word Theory. Evolution is a demonstrable fact, we've seen it happen, both through fossils and in lab conditions. The Theory of Evolution is what explains the mechanism. So, evolution is a fact and a theory, they're just referring to different things. Gravity is a fact, the Theory of Gravity explains that fact (badly).
No, of course not. They never do tests. Not many real deeds either. Oh, conversation with your grandmother's shade in a darkened room, the odd love potion or two, but comes a doubter, why, then it's the wrong day, the planets are not in line, the entrails are not favorable, "we don't do tests"!
"Nope, because right now I am more American than 49 million people with American "citizenship"" -Hippostania from FINLAND
Top
User avatar
Avenio
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7836
Founded: Feb 08, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Avenio » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 pm

Evolution is a phenomenon. It does not require my belief. It exists whether or not I, or anyone else, for that matter, wants it to.
Last edited by Avenio on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
There's the wretched rent to pay,
Yet I glower at pen and ink:
Oh, inspire me, Muse, I pray,
It is later than you think!

~ Ballads of a Bohemian, Robert Service
Top
User avatar
The De Danann Nation
Diplomat
 
Posts: 932
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The De Danann Nation » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:30 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Yes.


I would think so,with a flag like that. ;)
Last edited by The De Danann Nation on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Atheism and theism are two sides of the same coin. The theist believe in an eternal soul, the atheist believe in none. Most theist believe in a Higher Power, atheist do not. One thing both of these two have in common: they're both so damn sure of themselves.
Top
User avatar
Chinese Regions
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13503
Founded: Apr 24, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chinese Regions » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:31 pm

I believe evolution occurs.
The theory of evolution is by definition a theory. It describes a phenomenon, a fact, evolution.
[floatright]ATTEND THE INAUGURATION!|Fan of Transformers?|Fan of Star Trek?|你会说中文吗？
Grammar Communist
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR - Put this in your signature if you agree.
Centre-left, against the Occupy Movement
Helcasia wrote:The universe was not adapted for us, we adapted to the universe. Evolution made us perfect for our environment, it is not the universe that was made perfect for us.
Top
User avatar
The United Soviet Socialist Republic
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16447
Founded: Aug 10, 2011
Corporate Police State

Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:31 pm

Theistic Evolution yes.
Gay and Proud


Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Monarchist on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues
Top
User avatar
Yammata
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1085
Founded: Mar 20, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Yammata » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:31 pm

I kinda think anyone who doesn't can't be taken seriously at this point.
I am a Heathen (Asatru to be exact). Should you not like that and think I should change stand and fight me or be forever deemed a coward.

Creator of "Evolution: a super human RP"

Socialist despite what my nation looks like.
Top
User avatar
The De Danann Nation
Diplomat
 
Posts: 932
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The De Danann Nation » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:32 pm

Yammata wrote:I kinda think anyone who doesn't can't be taken seriously at this point.


Yeah,have to agree with you there.
Atheism and theism are two sides of the same coin. The theist believe in an eternal soul, the atheist believe in none. Most theist believe in a Higher Power, atheist do not. One thing both of these two have in common: they're both so damn sure of themselves.
Top
User avatar
Rudie
Attaché
 
Posts: 66
Founded: Nov 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Rudie » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:32 pm

I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?
Last edited by Rudie on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"A single striker, a single Occupy protester, a single draft resister...has done infinitely more for the cause of freedom, for the cause of his people, and for the cause of all mankind, than have all the soldiers in history." Franklin Delano Bluth.
"153. You should not beat a farmer's son: he has constructed your embankments and ditches."
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38450
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:32 pm

WHY. WE WERE DOING SO GOOD WITHOUT THIS THREAD.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Mav is a force of nature.
He gives no shits, but goes on anyways. There's nothing you can do. He's an unstoppable force and an immovable object.

Immoren wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
It's actually the other way around; the Universe and everything in it is Mav-sexual.

Once you go Mav you never go back.

Lubyak wrote:"I'm the L to the U, to the B, Y, A, K. And ain't no other brony gonna do Mav like me. I'm Lubbylicious."
What is Human Nature?
Concerning Abortion
Global Warming
Concerning Sweden
Please, stop violence against Charlie.
Top
User avatar
Unchecked Expansion
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5600
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Unchecked Expansion » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:33 pm

Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?

Yes. See MRSA
Top
User avatar
Tlaceceyaya
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8133
Founded: Oct 17, 2011
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:33 pm

Evolution on its own is not a theory; it's an observation. Evolution by means of natural selection is a scientific theory.
Economic Left/Right -9.12, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -6.51
Also, Bonobos. My Blog.
I am: A Secular Humanist; A Militant 6.9 Atheist; A Freethinker; A Democratic Socialist; Pro-Choice; Pro Gay Marriage; Pro Drug Legalization; Pro-Palestine; Deterministic; Naturalistic; Humanitarian Interventionist Human Being.
Richard Dawkins wrote:If you base medicine on science, you cure people. If you base the design of planes on science, they fly. If you base the design of rockets on science, they reach the moon. It works, bitches.
Top
User avatar
Democratic American States
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 2
Founded: Nov 03, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Democratic American States » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:34 pm

Yes, because we as humans have enough scientific evidence that it exists. I also believe evolution was guided by God.
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50233
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:34 pm

Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?

Yes. Many times. It's sometimes an extremely serious problem.
I believe in the magic of friendship, the wholly awesome bronydom, the conventions of fans,
the forgiveness of haters, the resurrection of faith in humanity, and love everlasting.
In nomine poni, et filly, et spiritus stable
Ifreann has fingers in all the pies! ~ Hatters
This guy. He knows shit. ~ Quebec and Atlantic Canada
Oh my God! They did it! They chose Ifreann! :o ~ Gravlen
But... Ifreann... I love you! ~ Anachronous Rex
Ifreann, I have never liked you as much as I do now... ~ Thafoo
I like you. You can come over my house and fuck my sister. ~ Helicthon
I have hand picked ifreann to lead this world as my second. ~ Galloism
You know, when I read your post, I imagine it sounds like Twilight Sparkle's voice? ~ The Grey Wolf
I, for one, welcome our new Iffy overlord. ~ Nadkor
Discord of the NS Pony Threads
Top
User avatar
Vortropolis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 946
Founded: Jan 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Vortropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:34 pm

I do not (I'm Roman Catholic) but i respect people that do believe in evolution.
Top
User avatar
Grand Soviet Union
Minister
 
Posts: 2289
Founded: Apr 26, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby Grand Soviet Union » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

yes I do...however there had to be something greater out there to make that first spark happen.
My nation is NOT communist, we are DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST Defcon 5: peace
Proud Russian!!
Proud Jew!!
I am more of an intellectual Jew than a religious one
Pro LGBT, same sex marriage pro abortion, pro Israel (most of the time...)
Top
User avatar
The Thai Fighters
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Oct 31, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Thai Fighters » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Yes I believe in evolution
Top
User avatar
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7885
Founded: Jan 21, 2012
Corporate Police State

Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Theistic Evolution yes.


Bollocks.

Democratic American States wrote:Yes, because we as humans have enough scientific evidence that it exists. I also believe evolution was guided by God.


Also bollocks.
“Genitals are a great distraction to scholarship.” Malcolm Bradbury

"Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity." Howard Phillips Lovecraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Flowers Call me Rubi for short or Vonners
Top
User avatar
Chinese Regions
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13503
Founded: Apr 24, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chinese Regions » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?

In micro-organisms? Bacteria? Moulds? Viruses/viri? Definitely, most certainly. MRSA and the various strain of flu are examples.
[floatright]ATTEND THE INAUGURATION!|Fan of Transformers?|Fan of Star Trek?|你会说中文吗？
Grammar Communist
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR - Put this in your signature if you agree.
Centre-left, against the Occupy Movement
Helcasia wrote:The universe was not adapted for us, we adapted to the universe. Evolution made us perfect for our environment, it is not the universe that was made perfect for us.
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38450
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Vortropolis wrote:I do not (I'm Roman Catholic) but i respect people that do believe in evolution.

You must be kidding.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Mav is a force of nature.
He gives no shits, but goes on anyways. There's nothing you can do. He's an unstoppable force and an immovable object.

Immoren wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
It's actually the other way around; the Universe and everything in it is Mav-sexual.

Once you go Mav you never go back.

Lubyak wrote:"I'm the L to the U, to the B, Y, A, K. And ain't no other brony gonna do Mav like me. I'm Lubbylicious."
What is Human Nature?
Concerning Abortion
Global Warming
Concerning Sweden
Please, stop violence against Charlie.
Top
User avatar
Rudie
Attaché
 
Posts: 66
Founded: Nov 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Rudie » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?

Yes. Many times. It's sometimes an extremely serious problem.
Can you link me to any studies based around it? There's a surprisingly broad range of misinformation about this type of experiment.
Chinese Regions wrote:
Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?

In micro-organisms? Bacteria? Moulds? Viruses/viri? Definitely, most certainly. MRSA and the various strain of flu are examples.
Of course; flu's 15-minute generational lifespan is what has made it so ruthlessly effective as a pathogen.
Last edited by Rudie on Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"A single striker, a single Occupy protester, a single draft resister...has done infinitely more for the cause of freedom, for the cause of his people, and for the cause of all mankind, than have all the soldiers in history." Franklin Delano Bluth.
"153. You should not beat a farmer's son: he has constructed your embankments and ditches."
Top
User avatar
Nadkor
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11478
Founded: Jan 22, 2004
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nadkor » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Rudie wrote:I'm not sure: as a genuine question, has evolutionary adaptation be directly observed in micro-organisms?


How do you imagine that antibiotic resistance develops?
economic left/right: -7.38, social libertarian/authoritarian: -7.59
thekidswhopoptodaywillrocktomorrow
female♀
I think we need more post-coital and less post-rock
Feels like the build-up takes forever but you never get me off
Top
Next
Post a reply

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Azaflaza, Bralia, Disserbia, Eastfield Lodge, Ethel mermania, Farnhamia, Forster Keys, Google Adsense [Bot], Grenartia, Gun Manufacturers, Kaamnaayein, Kaylea, Khadgar, Kingsley Bedford, L Ron Cupboard, Lesbia, Madredia, Querria, Risottia, The Blaatschapen, The Campbell Nation, The New Greek Republic, The Spiral Future, Tsuntion, United States of Indonesia, Vingarthia, Yaltabaoth, Zottistan

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Remove ads