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Postby Catan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:03 am

http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/no ... n=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?

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Postby Divair » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:04 am

Catan wrote: As an agnostic

Agnostic atheist or agnostic theist?

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Postby Svalbar » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:05 am

it is just about logic
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Postby Sapiens Isles » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am

Svalbar wrote:it is just about logic

This.
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Postby Blazedtown » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am

I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.
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Postby Sailsia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am

Blazedtown wrote:The first time I realized God isn't real was when he told me he didn't exist. True story bro.

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Postby Sailsia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am

Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.

I beg to differ, unfortunately.
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Postby Southern Patriots » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am

Blazedtown wrote:The first time I realized God isn't real was when he told me he didn't exist. True story bro.

He told me he was a Mormon, but open to new experiences.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am

Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?


Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am

Sailsia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.

I beg to differ, unfortunately.

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am

Divair wrote:
Catan wrote: As an agnostic

Agnostic atheist or agnostic theist?

I'm also agnostic about pigeonholes. ;)
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:America is not the whole world.

Lies.
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Postby The Ottoman Imperial Union » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:10 am

I, honestly, am pretty happy.

In my opinion, having a religion is like having a gun; it's ok to have one, and it's ok to be proud of it. But don't take it out in public and wave it about, and please don't shove it down children's throats.

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Postby Mushet » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:10 am

Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?

Some atheists can be quite dogmatic

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Postby Maltropia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:America is not the whole world.

Lies.

Truth.


We all know India is the whole world.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am

Maltropia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Lies.

Truth.


We all know India is the whole world.

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Postby Catan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:12 am

I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

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Postby Divair » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:13 am

Catan wrote:I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.

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Postby Blazedtown » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:13 am

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?


Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.


Quit picking imagined slights.
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Postby Horsefish » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am

Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.


This.
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Postby Catan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am

Divair wrote:
Catan wrote:I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.


yes there is. As in, I neither believe or disbelieve. but, looking back in history and seeing all the atrocities committed in the name of organized religion, I am skeptical of any priest, preacher, dogma, or anyone who claims to know the unknowable.

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Postby Divair » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am

Catan wrote:
Divair wrote:There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.


yes there is. As in, I neither believe or disbelieve. but, looking back in history and seeing all the atrocities committed in the name of organized religion, I am skeptical of any priest, preacher, dogma, or anyone who claims to know the unknowable.

Do you believe in a god?

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:17 am

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:18 am

Blazedtown wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.


Quit picking imagined slights.


Yeah, I'm actually quite pro-American.

Sorry if I think the OP should have been more specific in indicating which country he was actually talking about.

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