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You are a(n)

Orthodox
50
5%
Modern Orthodox
36
4%
Conservative
101
11%
Reform
87
9%
Atheist
500
53%
Nonobservant
79
8%
Messianic
83
9%
 
Total votes : 936

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:49 pm

Welcome to the Jewish Meshuganim Thread! This thread is for the discussion of Jewish topics, for Jews and gently gentiles who wish to chat! In addition, it is meant to unite the NS Hebrews, and members of the Tribe together so we can all know each other!

We have a chat room at http://client03.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23nshebrews&server=irc.esper.net

Post away Meshuganim!
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:02 pm

*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:08 pm

Menassa wrote:*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.


I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:11 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.


I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.

Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:13 pm

Menassa wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.

Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?


Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 pm

Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:17 pm

The Wacha wrote:Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.


Good to see ya!

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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:18 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?


Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.

Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:20 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
The Wacha wrote:Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.


Good to see ya!

Are you Ashkenazi?

I am not

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:21 pm

The Wacha wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Good to see ya!

Are you Ashkenazi?

I am not


SEPHARDI?
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:22 pm

Menassa wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.

Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!


I see by the Mother Knows Best State. Are you female? Or is Mother Knows Best State different from Father Knows Best State?
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:22 pm

wrong again

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:23 pm

The Wacha wrote:wrong again


Mizrahi?
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:26 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!


I see by the Mother Knows Best State. Are you female? Or is Mother Knows Best State different from Father Knows Best State?

Nope I'm all male.... all the time.... but I do have a queen so that would make sense.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:26 pm

it's fun messing with you guys I am Ashkenazi

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:27 pm

I thought so. We need to get Evraim here.
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Soviet Italian Union » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:33 pm

Soviet Italian Union wrote:I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

That's just lovely.

Nordengrund wrote:Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.

Which ancestors?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Menassa wrote:
Soviet Italian Union wrote:I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

That's just lovely.

Nordengrund wrote:Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.

Which ancestors?


My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's just lovely.


Which ancestors?


My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.

Maternal or Paternal.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.

Maternal or Paternal.


Maternal.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:37 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Menassa wrote:Maternal or Paternal.


Maternal.

Which would mean that she gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.... who gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:38 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Maternal.

Which would mean that she gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.... who gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.


Yes, but we did not find out she was Jewish until she died.
1 John 1:9

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Postby Oterro » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:39 pm

genital mutilation, why?
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

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