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You are a(n)

Orthodox
49
5%
Modern Orthodox
36
4%
Conservative
101
11%
Reform
85
9%
Atheist
498
54%
Nonobservant
78
8%
Messianic
81
9%
 
Total votes : 928

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:49 pm

Welcome to the Jewish Meshuganim Thread! This thread is for the discussion of Jewish topics, for Jews and gently gentiles who wish to chat! In addition, it is meant to unite the NS Hebrews, and members of the Tribe together so we can all know each other!

We have a chat room at http://client03.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23nshebrews&server=irc.esper.net

Post away Meshuganim!
Last edited by Arborlawn on Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:02 pm

*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:08 pm

Menassa wrote:*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.


I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:11 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:*sigh* I suppose.... though I do despise them, you should put Messianic Jew in your poll but only if you want too.

I was an orthodox Jew but now I am an Atheist-nonobservant-Apikores.


I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.

Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
GE2-613

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:13 pm

Menassa wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
I don't consider Messianic Jews to be Jews, unless of course, *sigh* their mothers were . . .

Gross. Fine.

Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?


Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 pm

Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:17 pm

The Wacha wrote:Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.


Good to see ya!

Are you Ashkenazi?
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:18 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:Yeah those happy-go-lucky rabbi denying denizens do fall into that category.

On the subject of conversion.... do you believe an orthodox conversion is the only way to go?


Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.

Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:20 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
The Wacha wrote:Well I am here I am a reformed Jew It's been tough as said in the chat room.


Good to see ya!

Are you Ashkenazi?

I am not

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:21 pm

The Wacha wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Good to see ya!

Are you Ashkenazi?

I am not


SEPHARDI?
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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:22 pm

Menassa wrote:
Arborlawn wrote:
Well, it depends, really. First of all, I hate how there are so many denominations. I wish there was just one type. But, not really. I believe there needs to be one standard process for conversion that all rabbis follow. It is ridiculous that you can convert Reform yet not be married in Israel. It is also ridiculous though that just about anyone can convert reform.

Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!


I see by the Mother Knows Best State. Are you female? Or is Mother Knows Best State different from Father Knows Best State?
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:22 pm

wrong again

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:23 pm

The Wacha wrote:wrong again


Mizrahi?
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:26 pm

Arborlawn wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well I'm all for Jewish Unity..... as long as we do it my way :lol:

The Jews have never been more united.... then again perhaps in the time of Solomon

During the temple times we were killing each other, oy vey!


I see by the Mother Knows Best State. Are you female? Or is Mother Knows Best State different from Father Knows Best State?

Nope I'm all male.... all the time.... but I do have a queen so that would make sense.
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
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Postby The Wacha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:26 pm

it's fun messing with you guys I am Ashkenazi

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Postby Arborlawn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:27 pm

I thought so. We need to get Evraim here.
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.
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Postby Soviet Italian Union » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:33 pm

Soviet Italian Union wrote:I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

That's just lovely.

Nordengrund wrote:Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.

Which ancestors?
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Menassa wrote:
Soviet Italian Union wrote:I'm an Orthodox Jew (more specifically, the Neturei Karta organisation).

That's just lovely.

Nordengrund wrote:Hello. I am a Christian, but my ancestors were Jewish.

Which ancestors?


My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:35 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's just lovely.


Which ancestors?


My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.

Maternal or Paternal.
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:36 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
My great- great (maybe a third great) grandmother.

Maternal or Paternal.


Maternal.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:37 pm

Nordengrund wrote:
Menassa wrote:Maternal or Paternal.


Maternal.

Which would mean that she gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.... who gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Turn it over and turn it over; it is all there"
"We will not modify the Torah to fit America, we will tailor America to fit the Torah."


Their hollow inheritance.
.בְּראֹשׁ הַשָּׁנָה יִכָּתֵבוּן וּבְיוֹם צוֹם כִּפּוּר יֵחָתֵמוּן
GE2-613

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Postby Nordengrund » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:38 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
Maternal.

Which would mean that she gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.... who gave birth to a daughter who was Jewish.


Yes, but we did not find out she was Jewish until she died.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:39 pm

genital mutilation, why?
we, unlike the bourgeoisie, have nothing to lose and therefore our expression will be the only honest one, our words will be the only challenging ones and our art will be the one revolutionary expression. We need new noise and new voices and new canvases to become something more than the last poets of a useless generation.

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