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Who do you support?

Israel
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55%
Palestine
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Caurobia
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Israel vs. Palestine

Postby Caurobia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:22 pm

When it comes to the Israel vs. Palestine conflict which side do you support? I am pro-palestine because of Israel's constant human rights abuses of the Palestinian people and stealing their land and treating Palestinians living in Israel as second class citizens.
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Nadkor
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:23 pm

I foresee a thread just full of calm and rational debate with both sides presenting plenty of evidence in support of their position and nobody at any point making a Nazi reference.
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Postby Ravineworld » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:23 pm

Zionism is jewish supremacism.
I hate israel
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:25 pm

Israel all around
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Postby Rejaina » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:26 pm

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Postby Wirbel » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm

Israel is da boss.
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Postby Bormeatri » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm

Israel, duh. It is like one of America's best allies.
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Nadkor
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Israel all around


Nah, it's more of a rough pentagon with a bit cut out of it.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm

I support both. The dualistic nature of the poll vexes me. The majority of people support neither Israel nor Palestine entirely, and, as such, selecting between them is like choosing whether to vote for Pol Pot or Idi Amin in a presidential election. Also, aren't there two different Zionist threads already running in General?

Nadkor wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Israel all around


Nah, it's more of a rough pentagon with a bit cut out of it.

The Negev is more triangular, if you want my humble opinion.
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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:28 pm

I live in Israel (although I'm not Israeli) and I don't support either side.
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Ralkovia
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Postby Ralkovia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:29 pm

I support Israel.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:30 pm

Bormeatri wrote:Israel, duh. It is like one of America's best allies.

Truly? I am a Zionist, and am not convinced of the veracity of your assertion. I would say that Canada has Israel out-ranked as far as allies go.

Ravineworld wrote:Zionism is jewish supremacism.
I hate israel

Would you care to glance over your previous thread on the subject? I do believe it focused specifically on that claim, and that I provided a relatively thorough explanation of why I disagreed with it.
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Postby CoolBoyGcp » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:30 pm

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Postby Ralkovia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:33 pm

CoolBoyGcp wrote:DA IZAEALIS ARE DA NAZIS OF DA 21ST CENTURY, DUH!!!


INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!
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Postby Pith Helmeted Nonsense » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:34 pm

I support the winner.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:35 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
CoolBoyGcp wrote:DA IZAEALIS ARE DA NAZIS OF DA 21ST CENTURY, DUH!!!


INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!

Zionist lies, obviously...

Pith Helmeted Nonsense wrote:I support the winner.

I do not believe that there is a winner in this situation...
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Postby Caurobia » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:35 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
CoolBoyGcp wrote:DA IZAEALIS ARE DA NAZIS OF DA 21ST CENTURY, DUH!!!


INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!


Unless of course you are a Palestinian living in Israel or their occupied territories.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:37 pm

Caurobia wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!


Unless of course you are a Palestinian.

Palestinians are not Israeli citizens. Certainly, I can comprehend criticizing Israel's expansionist policies in the West Bank, but that is not the same thing.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:37 pm

I'm going to quote myself from a previous thread.


Genivaria wrote:I'm firmly on the side of *Who gives a shit?*

There both fighting for stupid reasons and there are war crimes commited on both sides.
Let them kill each other for all I care, the sensible ones will leave.

I also abstain from the poll.
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Postby CoolBoyGcp » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:45 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
CoolBoyGcp wrote:DA IZAEALIS ARE DA NAZIS OF DA 21ST CENTURY, DUH!!!


INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!

WELL EVERYBODY KNOWS DA NAZIS LOVED GAYS AND LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND ALL THAT STUFF, THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY KNOWS DA NAZIS WERE AWESOME, DEY NEVER HURT ANYBODY, JUST LIKE IZRAEL!
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:49 pm

Bormeatri wrote:Israel, duh. It is like one of America's best allies.

I doubt that.

Anyways, I'm all for a two-state solution, but I think Israel needs a party other than Likud to rule...
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Postby Individual Impersonators » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:45 pm

Palestine abuses human rights. They persecute homosexuals and have armed forces creating anarchy.
Israel is just criticised by the UN far more often which has many influences including the make up and structure of the UN. I tend to support Israel because at least they have a functioning democracy that represents the will of their people unlike Palestine.
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Postby Borgyn » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:47 pm

Do I have to choose one or the other?
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:10 pm

Caurobia wrote:
Ralkovia wrote:
INDEED THEY TOTALLY TOLERATE GAYS/LESBIANS, COMMIES, AND GYPSIES JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! THEY ALSO LET MINORITIES IN THEIR GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE NAZIS TOO!!!


Unless of course you are a Palestinian living in Israel or their occupied territories.

The typical Palestinian, even one living in Gaza, has several family members who are still alive. This is quite unlike survivors of the Nazis.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:13 pm

Mainly neutral, with a slight lean towards Israel.
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