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KONY 2012

Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:20 pm

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March 15: Leader of the Ugandan Democratic Party response to KONY 2012.
March 12: Invisible Children's CEO talks specifically about the group's finances.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

Thought I would post this here and see what NSG thinks. I'm typically very non-interventionist, but a couple things about this fellow as presented in this documentary have furrowed my brow. For one thing, his only cause in abducting these tens of thousands of children seems to be to retain the power he currently has - not political, just military strength. For another, the only reason people like this exist is because of current international intervention going off the record: this isn't mentioned in the film, but Uganda does not manufacture Soviet and American arms.

Anyway, a very well-done video, whatever your stance, and I highly recommend everyone watch it whether or not it incites you to the action the documentary is suggesting. It says some very interesting things about our globalized world, especially through social networking, and what it means for us when it comes to issues like this, especially in how we can deal with it as individuals who are not in politics or relevant professional fields. It'd be neat to see some discussion on that too. Can the internet, when used properly, incite effective action on this level?
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Postby The Truth and Light » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:32 pm

The people from Invisible Children came to my church last Sunday and showed us this video. I found it very emotional, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do. How should I act on what I saw?

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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:38 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:The people from Invisible Children came to my church last Sunday and showed us this video. I found it very emotional, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do. How should I act on what I saw?

They have that bit on donations and the kit you get in return for helping to advertise the movement, and that scene they're planning on making on April 20th (which I'll be looking forward to to see how far it goes). Also, really, just posting the video around. The whole idea is to make Kony a household name. I'd certainly never heard of him.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:43 pm

How would this affect the arrest of the man, except to create awareness and pressure on our politicians (I didn't watch the entire thing)?

IF that was the intent, bravo, and I am glad. Interventionism is necessary.
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Postby Yuktova » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:59 pm

I think this would be the only modern war I would support. Kony needs to be stopped, either by a bullet to the head, or arresting him.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:08 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:How would this affect the arrest of the man, except to create awareness and pressure on our politicians (I didn't watch the entire thing)?

IF that was the intent, bravo, and I am glad. Interventionism is necessary.

Yes, that was the intent. :)
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Postby Gravonia » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:38 pm

I can't be arsed to watch a half hour video. What's it about?
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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:50 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:How would this affect the arrest of the man, except to create awareness and pressure on our politicians (I didn't watch the entire thing)?

IF that was the intent, bravo, and I am glad. Interventionism is necessary.

Yes, that was the intent. :)

Our, or at least my, politicians are already doing something about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_R ... covery_Act

This is probably one of those things where an open war (e.g Iraq War) would not help anything.
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Postby Norstal » Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:51 pm

Gravonia wrote:I can't be arsed to watch a half hour video. What's it about?

Some guy named Kony kidnaps children and make them fight in wars due to a message from the Christian god and other vague religions.
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Postby Raven » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:11 pm

And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:19 pm

I bought their Action Kit and plan to participate in the event on April 20th. I'm also helping to plan further events in my school.
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Postby Fedeledland » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:33 pm

I want to have an action plan at school on April, maybe convince my Social Studies teacher to do something.

Raven wrote:And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.


Come on, don't blame a few billion people for an extremist cause.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:36 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:I bought their Action Kit and plan to participate in the event on April 20th. I'm also helping to plan further events in my school.

Good for you. I wanted to see if a teacher could help me get something started at my school, but I didn't know who to ask. :oops:

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Postby Las Trinidades » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:44 pm

I know these are just words, but words are what lead revolutions!! Like egypt, libya, etc.

http://vimeo.com/37119711

Look at that link. Stop him, spread the word, Educate people, contact officials, etc!!!
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Postby Raven » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:45 pm

Fedeledland wrote:I want to have an action plan at school on April, maybe convince my Social Studies teacher to do something.

Raven wrote:And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.


Come on, don't blame a few billion people for an extremist cause.


I don't blame the people who let themselves being brainwashed - if so, it's their problem. I blame the religion for being such a piece of crap.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Raven wrote:I don't blame the people who let themselves being brainwashed - if so, it's their problem. I blame the religion for being such a piece of crap.

Are you joking? "I don't blame those animal rights activists for slaughtering everyone on a large commercial farm - it's just that animal rights activism is evil."

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Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Oh, good, a double post.
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Postby The Pretend Pub » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Raven wrote:And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.


No, it doesn't, since Christianity doesn't believe in a god.

Kony is a Paulinist, which means he has rejected the Christ.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:51 pm

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1000 Cats wrote:Yes, that was the intent. :)

Our, or at least my, politicians are already doing something about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_R ... covery_Act

This is probably one of those things where an open war (e.g Iraq War) would not help anything.


Yes, and the fantastically stupid thing was that when that was announced, Obama sending troops there, people were going "derr, Obama=Bush/Texas Hitler."

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Postby Death Metal » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:52 pm

Meh, still less insane than Ron Paul is.
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Postby Death Metal » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:54 pm

Still less of an Un-American radical than Ron Paul is. And just as electable.
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Postby Revolutopia » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:56 pm

Las Trinidades wrote:I know these are just words, but words are what lead revolutions!! Like egypt, libya, etc.

http://vimeo.com/37119711

Look at that link. Stop him, spread the word, Educate people, contact officials, etc!!!


Who is Joseph Kony as I am not watching a 30 minute video, also what is the discussion for this thread?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:56 pm

Care to post a summary of the video and what makes his words so bad? I'm not going to watch random videos every time someone tells me too.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:56 pm

Death Metal wrote:Still less of an Un-American radical than Ron Paul is. And just as electable.


Er, Ron Paul isn't that insane.

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Postby Astrolinium » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:59 pm

Raven wrote:And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.


No, this is what being batshit insane causes.
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Raven wrote:And this, gentlemen, is what Christianism causes. Millions of deaths, thousands of abuses, wars, persecutions, etc. just because of "the word" of a being that don't even exist.


No, it doesn't, since Christianity doesn't believe in a god.

Kony is a Paulinist, which means he has rejected the Christ.


You. Nobody else holds this viewpoint, I'm pretty sure. At the very least, put something in your sig about it, because all you're doing is confusing the living daylights out of new people.
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