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To collar or not to collar? (your pets)

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:17 pm

My mother has two dogs. Neither of which is collared.

Recently, a friend of hers, who's studying to become a vet, told my mother that it was neglectful of hers not to have either dog collared. But my mother thinks collaring a pet is rather cruel. She sees no point in fastening a chain/leather collar around the pet's neck.

All the papers concerning shots and parasite treatments of the dogs is current, so she sees no reason to collar. More-so, where she resides, there doesn't seem to be any laws against collared or un-collared pets. The dogs are kept indoors and, when they're walked, they have harnesses fastened to their backs, which seems to be more comfortable for them.

My question to NSG is: do you think pets need to be collared? Yes or no and why?

There are pros, I don't deny it. If the dogs get lost, a collar could help in finding them. A collared pet also identifies the animal as owned and not a stray.

Cons, there are some of those too. If the collar is not appropriate, it could dig into the skin and cause a wound. A tight collar could also make a pet uncomfortable.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:20 pm

I think if you give a minimal amount of effort, you can find a collar that is comfortable for your pet. You shouldn't rely on luck. It's wise to properly identify them, especially in a culture where stray dogs (and those mistaken for stray dogs) don't meet the kindest of fates.
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Postby Anitgrum » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:My mother has two dogs. Neither of which is collared.

Recently, a friend of hers, who's studying to become a vet, told my mother that it was neglectful of hers not to have either dog collared. But my mother thinks collaring a pet is rather cruel. She sees no point in fastening a chain/leather collar around the pet's neck.

All the papers concerning shots and parasite treatments of the dogs is current, so she sees no reason to collar. More-so, where she resides, there doesn't seem to be any laws against collared or un-collared pets. The dogs are kept indoors and, when they're walked, they have harnesses fastened to their backs, which seems to be more comfortable for them.

My question to NSG is: do you think pets need to be collared? Yes or no and why?

There are pros, I don't deny it. If the dogs get lost, a collar could help in finding them. A collared pet also identifies the animal as owned and not a stray.

Cons, there are some of those too. If the collar is not appropriate, it could dig into the skin and cause a wound. A tight collar could also make a pet uncomfortable.


Well if they are going outside it makes sense they should have some identification on them so they are easier to find if they run away. Also it provide a defense form dog attacks. While the dog is indoors there really isn't a need.
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Postby Auremena » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm

Hey, some people like collars too.
As long as it's not to the point of choking I don't see the problem.
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Postby greed and death » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm

In the US the identification is on the collar.
If the dog gets loose, the collar is what keeps the pound from fast tracking the animal to be put to sleep.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:I think if you give a minimal amount of effort, you can find a collar that is comfortable for your pet. You shouldn't rely on luck. It's wise to properly identify them, especially in a culture where stray dogs (and those mistaken for stray dogs) don't meet the kindest of fates.


Even dogs that are kept indoors? What purpose would a collar serve?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:24 pm

Auremena wrote:Hey, some people like collars too.
As long as it's not to the point of choking I don't see the problem.


This thread is not about people who like collars for themselves, though.
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Postby greed and death » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I think if you give a minimal amount of effort, you can find a collar that is comfortable for your pet. You shouldn't rely on luck. It's wise to properly identify them, especially in a culture where stray dogs (and those mistaken for stray dogs) don't meet the kindest of fates.


Even dogs that are kept indoors? What purpose would a collar serve?

What if a kid leaves the door open ?
Or an aging parent.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:26 pm

greed and death wrote:In the US the identification is on the collar.
If the dog gets loose, the collar is what keeps the pound from fast tracking the animal to be put to sleep.


I don't fail to realize this. However, even dogs that are collared can be put to sleep at the pound if they're not reclaimed.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:27 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:I think if you give a minimal amount of effort, you can find a collar that is comfortable for your pet. You shouldn't rely on luck. It's wise to properly identify them, especially in a culture where stray dogs (and those mistaken for stray dogs) don't meet the kindest of fates.


Even dogs that are kept indoors? What purpose would a collar serve?

I always thought the point of making sure animals were identifiable was in-case they managed to not be in-doors like they are supposed to be in this case?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:27 pm

greed and death wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Even dogs that are kept indoors? What purpose would a collar serve?

What if a kid leaves the door open ?
Or an aging parent.


Well, my mother's apartment has a gated door. They can still leave the door open and the dogs won't get out. Not to mention, that one of them doesn't know how to go downstairs.
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Postby Imsogone » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:28 pm

She needs to buy an appropriate collar. If she's afraid that the dog might get hung up on something and choke, there are breakaway collars. It shouldn't be hard to find one that fits, or can be made to fit, correctly. A dog without a collar is easier prey than one with - thieves (particularly those a..holes who steal dogs for the purpose of dogfighting) will pick them up and without collars, chips and other forms of id. you've lost a dog - frequently to a cruel end.
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Postby Auremena » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:28 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Auremena wrote:Hey, some people like collars too.
As long as it's not to the point of choking I don't see the problem.
This thread is not about people who like collars for themselves, though.
It was meant as a little humour. I'm trying to repress my angst in little ways.
Back on topic, IMO, identification is important, as most people carry some sort of ID card (although I usually forget to take mine with me), a pet should have similar, whether it's a tag on a collar or whatever else that I can't think of ATM.
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Postby Abaven » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:28 pm

Well, I collar my dogs. I don't see how it's cruel, though, as they all fit loosely and well. They're kind of necessary because they've got identification and rabies shot certification and such on them.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:28 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Even dogs that are kept indoors? What purpose would a collar serve?

I always thought the point of making sure animals were identifiable was in-case they managed to not be in-doors like they are supposed to be in this case?


They are indoors. Yet, the lady studying to become a vet told my mom she was being neglectful by not collaring her dogs.
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Postby Bombadil » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:29 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
greed and death wrote:What if a kid leaves the door open ?
Or an aging parent.


Well, my mother's apartment has a gated door. They can still leave the door open and the dogs won't get out. Not to mention, that one of them doesn't know how to go downstairs.


Well if you're more than certain the dog won't escape then don't put a collar on it. I don't think this is an either/or question, personally I suspect it's simply safer to keep the collar on but whatever works. I don't think dogs care one way or another given time.
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Postby Seperates » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:29 pm

The real question is why you don't have cats, who will actually come back from being outside.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:30 pm

Imsogone wrote:She needs to buy an appropriate collar. If she's afraid that the dog might get hung up on something and choke, there are breakaway collars. It shouldn't be hard to find one that fits, or can be made to fit, correctly. A dog without a collar is easier prey than one with - thieves (particularly those a..holes who steal dogs for the purpose of dogfighting) will pick them up and without collars, chips and other forms of id. you've lost a dog - frequently to a cruel end.


I get what you say.

But I do find humorous the idea of dog thieves putting my mom's miniature Daschunds to fight. :p
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:31 pm

Seperates wrote:The real question is why you don't have cats, who will actually come back from being outside.


Er, I had cats. My mom though is not a cat person.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:34 pm

Abaven wrote:Well, I collar my dogs. I don't see how it's cruel, though, as they all fit loosely and well. They're kind of necessary because they've got identification and rabies shot certification and such on them.


I personally prefer, in that case, the harness collar. It seems to be far more comfortable for the pet.
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Postby Abaven » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:36 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Abaven wrote:Well, I collar my dogs. I don't see how it's cruel, though, as they all fit loosely and well. They're kind of necessary because they've got identification and rabies shot certification and such on them.


I personally prefer, in that case, the harness collar. It seems to be far more comfortable for the pet.
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Ah. I actually have a few of those, although my shepherd will not stand for them. My smaller dogs seem to like them alright, though, so I'll do that when I'm walking them.

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Postby Anitgrum » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:37 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Imsogone wrote:She needs to buy an appropriate collar. If she's afraid that the dog might get hung up on something and choke, there are breakaway collars. It shouldn't be hard to find one that fits, or can be made to fit, correctly. A dog without a collar is easier prey than one with - thieves (particularly those a..holes who steal dogs for the purpose of dogfighting) will pick them up and without collars, chips and other forms of id. you've lost a dog - frequently to a cruel end.


I get what you say.

But I do find humorous the idea of dog thieves putting my mom's miniature Daschunds to fight. :p


LOL. No I was thinking more along the line of another attack your dog while you happen to be walking them.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:37 pm

Abaven wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I personally prefer, in that case, the harness collar. It seems to be far more comfortable for the pet.
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Ah. I actually have a few of those, although my shepherd will not stand for them. My smaller dogs seem to like them alright, though, so I'll do that when I'm walking them.


Those are the ones my mom uses for her miniature Daschunds.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:39 pm

Anitgrum wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I get what you say.

But I do find humorous the idea of dog thieves putting my mom's miniature Daschunds to fight. :p


LOL. No I was thinking more along the line of another attack your dog while you happen to be walking them.


Yes, that could be a risk. But that hasn't happened to them where she resides. Not it couldn't happen, mind.

But I do wonder. Such a small dog can't really sport one of those spiked collars one sees in bigger breeds.
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