[PASSED] Repeal "Double Jeopardy Prohibition"

[Knootoss]

Full support from Knootoss. Congratulations on quorum!


Ambassador Aram Koopman
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

[Ossitania]

We are highly pleased by this repeal's progress thusfar and will support it with all our available resources when it reaches the floor. Our most sincere congratulations and thanks to the honourable delegations from Mousebumples and Mallorea and Riva.

[Mousebumples]

My sincere thanks to all of the delegates who have approved this measure and also to all of those ambassadors here on the forums who have supported this repeal from it's original inception.

As is slowly becoming a tradition around here, I shall yield the floor to a very skilled amphibian that is native to Mousebumples to lead us all in a Quorum!Dance ...

[Gatchina Ministry of Foreign Affairs]

His Majesty wishes to convey Congratulations to Ambassador Eberhart on achieving quorum to this most pleasing piece of legisltation! Kudos! It is obvious that His Majesty's Government supports this 100%! Keep up the good work!

-Col. George Hentzau
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Supreme & Exalted Empire of Gatchina
The Holy Moosean Empire

[Quadrimmina]

Our Republic extends our congratulations to Ambassador Eberhart and applauds this attempt. The full force of our government is in your support.

[Mousebumples]

Early At Vote bump! (OOC: I won't be around when this goes to vote in 3-ish hours.)

I'd like to begin by thanking those who have supported this repeal attempt so far - both in this thread and also those WA Delegates who have been supportive enough to approve the proposal during its submission stage.

Further, I know that the Ambassador from Alqania had started a replacement draft, but as she has not returned the chambers as of late, I'd like to thank The Lion for starting up a similar draft that could serve as a replacement for this legislation here, for your consideration and critique.

As always, the support of YOU and every ambassador here would be greatly appreciated.

Yours,
Nikolas Eberhart
Ambassador from the Doctoral Monkey Feet of Mousebumples
WA Delegate for Monkey Island

[Moronist Decisions]

As you may know, we support the repeal of this resolution given the flaws of the current resolution.

[Scion Lop On]

We've voted in favor. Good Luck!

[Knootoss]

Voted FOR this resolution. The early popular vote is very much in favour too.

[Sanctaria]

I've voted FOR, but this may only be temporary, depending on the regional vote of my region which I have to abide by.

But at least I'm stacking in your favour. You can thank me later!

[New Mazovia]

I voted AGAINST.

It's not true that existing Double Jeopardy Prohibition Resolution doesn't allow prosecution to appeal if the case ends without prejudice. It forbids new trial and make defendant guilty instead of not guilty.

Collecting of evidence shall not go on forever. Prosecution shall have time to collect it and shouldn't go with indictment to the court till enough evidences is collected to convict.

Prosecution shall act against judge or jury bias or tampering with evidence during the original proceedings.

Only if final verdict was forged or is a result of a crime, the original proceedings shall be admitted as never existing and only then second trial is possible.

In my opinion on the ground of existing Double Jeopardy Prohibition Resolution states can run their judicial systems in a just and reasonable manner as explained above. Any exceptions from the double jeopardy prohibition rule can lead to stalinisation of the world in the name of populist voices to fight the crime.

[Retired WerePenguins]

Friends, Romans, and Countrymen, lend me your ears. I have come to bury Alex Trebek, not to praise him. The evil that men do lives on beyond them, like the idea of doubling the scores on the second half of a game. Nay I insist that only regular Jepoardy be allowed, although Final Jepoardy might be permissible. But Double Jepoardy is right out. It sould remain prohibited in all nations of the WA.

(PAUSES TO SEE BLANK STARES)

You mean that is not the "Double Jeopardy" we are talking about here? Oh, nevemind.

[Paper Flowers]

I voted AGAINST.

It's not true that existing Double Jeopardy Prohibition Resolution doesn't allow prosecution to appeal if the case ends without prejudice.

Except that it is true and it does.

It forbids new trial and make defendant guilty instead of not guilty.

Which immediately contradicts with your first statement.

Collecting of evidence shall not go on forever. Prosecution shall have time to collect it and shouldn't go with indictment to the court till enough evidences is collected to convict.

So after how long does your police force abandon a case? Since you obviously feel that if they haven't got a conviction within an acceptable time-limit then they should give up.

Only if final verdict was forged or is a result of a crime, the original proceedings shall be admitted as never existing and only then second trial is possible.

Which again, you can't do under the current resolution.

Effectively everything you have said is a reason to support the repeal, yet you choose to vote against it, perhaps reviewing your own evidence would be in order sir?

Deputy Ambassador Saunders

[New Conglomerate]

Support can be expected from The NationStates Community.

[Datavia]

As usual, Datavia votes AGAINST the WA bureaucracy that requires repeal of reasonable rights in order to "improve" them thereafter. I would most gladly vote for such a repeal if it actually included some draft of the proposal to be later put at vote.

[Paper Flowers]

I would most gladly vote for such a repeal if it actually included some draft of the proposal to be later put at vote.

So the author linking to one such draft of a proposal doesn't qualify in your books? (OOC: check the OP.)

Deputy Ambassador Saunders

[Flibbleites]

I would most gladly vote for such a repeal if it actually included some draft of the proposal to be later put at vote.

Which is impossible, the Secretariat would consider any such inclusion to be new legislation which according to The Proposal Rules can not be in a repeal.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Ossitania]

Happily voting for. Time to reclaim some modicum of sense.

[The Eternal Kawaii]

In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised

We rise in support of the World Assembly's continued efforts to clean house, ridding this body of poor legislation so that better may take its place. Keep up the good work, ladies and gentlemen.

[Tibberiria]

Cannot support anything that reopens case if found not guilty in court. Too much room for abuse.

Agreed with this, but it doesn't look like it matters at this point. I just hope we can keep the replacement on the books a little longer.

[Mousebumples]

Cannot support anything that reopens case if found not guilty in court. Too much room for abuse.

Agreed with this, but it doesn't look like it matters at this point. I just hope we can keep the replacement on the books a little longer.

If the replacement is well-written, which I am confident it will be, I am not planning to repeal it. I can't speak for others, of course, but it was the shortcomings of this resolution that drove me to assist and later take point on this repeal process.

I'm not opposed to prohibiting Double Jeopardy within WA member nations, overall. However, I feel that there are certain exceptions, which should be allowed, which the current resolution forbids.

Otherwise, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the many MANY WA voters and WA delegates who have voted in favor to this point. Your support is greatly appreciated!

[Peoples Empire]

my nation has voted in favor of the repeal and hopes it passes

[Damanucus]

Needless to say, I am voting for. However, I will change my original stance of not supporting any replacement: I will only support a replacement if it allows nations to choose whether to allow double jeopardy in their borders, along, of course, with some barriers to prevent abuse of this allowance. But another blanket prohibition will be voted down by my delegation.

Stephanie Orman
Representative, Nomadic Peoples of Damanucus

[The ShinRa Company 7]

The ShinRa Company 7 denies the passage of this bill. For we believe that once you are acquitted of a said crime, you cannot be retried. It would be quite possible, if this legislation was reversed, to sway other people or nations to alter a previous verdict.

Therefore, I deny passage and will pray that my fellow WA members choose to do the same. However, at the end of the day--no matter the decision--I hope we are able to cast our differences aside no matter the outcome.

[Ainocra]

We support this repeal