WorldVision Song Contest 21 Discussion

by **Valcluse** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:15 am

Valcluse returns, hopefully with something that will do better this year.

by **Saintrabina** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:16 am

SAINTRABINA
Artist: Cynthia Hebanova & Cezar Boree
Title: Adam & Eva
Genre: Rock Ballad
Language: Polish, English
Broadcaster: ZRTV

by **Swilatia** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:30 am

Chenkorya wrote:
Swilatia wrote:Wouldn't it lower their chances, splitting the vote and all? After all, there can be only one winning bid.

Anyway, the idea of one player submitting two bids is a bit silly, but I can't think of any good reason to disallow it.

No, it won't lower the chances.

Well, it would. Are you familiar with the concept of vote-splitting, Chenkorya? I'm guessing not. So here's how it works: Let's say 8 people want Euski to host, and 6 want another nation. Well, Euski's bid would win the host voting. Now let's he and his puppet bid. Maybe he'd get 5 votes, his puppet 3 votes, and the other guy would still get six votes for his only one bid. Well, having two bids didn't help any-one win, did it now. Perhaps this might not be the same with the system used to pick the host of WSC20, but let's not use that one again.

But KB says there is no rule that says it's not allowed, so probably you should listen to him, EUSK.

I guess it doesn't matter that I said pretty much the same thing? But i suppose it's okay, we did sort of resolve this without the need for your constant involvement.

by **Syrche** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:45 am

Sønnelåt Lide Alpaisne has yet to take place, however, all eyes are on last years runner up, Lejn Andersson, who has undoubtedly spent the last few months honing his craft in anticipation of the upcoming Music Festivals. This is all speculation of course, but we can not deny that things are certainly looking that way...Time will tell....Sÿrche will reveal its OFFICIAL entry at another time...

by **Reythan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:04 am

Band: Thule
Genre: Death Metal
Language(s): English
Similar IRL Bands: Vader (Yes, it's named after Darth Vader. So what? They're awesome), Leigion of the Damned, a little bit of Slayer, and a little bit of Kreator
Song: Black Gate
Broadcaster: Reytha Braodcasting Syndicate

by **Mediterra** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:48 am

After discussions, the RTM has decided that (not only will Mediterra make its debut in the WHF(7), but) Mediterra will also have its debut in the WorldVision Song Contest 21!

After more discussions, the RTM has also decided that the same song and artist that will compete in the WHF7 will also be the Mediterran entry at WorldVision. The melody of the song (for both the WHF and WV) has been chosen in a national final called Festival di Melodi Mediterranika (Mediterran Melody Festival), and the artist has been chosen internally. Lyrics to the song are still being written, and is almost done.

National Final (results) can be seen here.

Stay tune for more on Mediterra's participation.

Chenkorya on Last.fm · by **Chenkorya** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:28 am

Swilatia wrote:
Chenkorya wrote:No, it won't lower the chances.

Well, it would. Are you familiar with the concept of vote-splitting, Chenkorya? I'm guessing not. So here's how it works: Let's say 8 people want Euski to host, and 6 want another nation. Well, Euski's bid would win the host voting. Now let's he and his puppet bid. Maybe he'd get 5 votes, his puppet 3 votes, and the other guy would still get six votes for his only one bid. Well, having two bids didn't help any-one win, did it now. Perhaps this might not be the same with the system used to pick the host of WSC20, but let's not use that one again.

But KB says there is no rule that says it's not allowed, so probably you should listen to him, EUSK.

I guess it doesn't matter that I said pretty much the same thing? But i suppose it's okay, we did sort of resolve this without the need for your constant involvement.

Swilatia, I don't think you are the one who decides which voting system is used and which isn't. KB is in favour of using that system (KB, don't say you're not, because you said you are.) and I am too. So that decision isn't made yet.

by **Virabia** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:34 am

The pioneering Virabi Reggæ Group: PersonasEncienden will enter with Paradise Island

Chenkorya on Last.fm · by **Chenkorya** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:48 am

ChenkorVision. Chenkorya's national final for the WorldVision Song Contest. It's a moment a lot of WorldVision fans are looking forward to: big amounts of fans outside the country watch the NF online, especially because it high number of high quality songs. But it's not only a party for the fans. Also all Chenkoryans like to watch it; all their favourite artists perform. It's one of the most viewed shows in the country. Especially now it's bigger as ever. Before the usual semifinals, each province has it's own final. Of course, these are less good and only broadcasted in the provinces themselves, but still. So, all these provincial finals took place this year. And here are the results of them, and the songs that will appear in the semifinals!

Hollandieux
1st - Gern Spearing - On Your Shoulders
2nd - WasBeer - You Gotta Go
3rd - Alfr Metz - Jij
4th - John and the Princes - Miss Unbelievable
5th - Samantha Butlin - Violin
6th - ChenkoMaff - Make It Mine
7th - Jewelry - Cuckoo
8th - Shumettes - Here Forever
9th - Lili - You Go Solo
10th - 2nd Step - Academic
11th - Ome Soul - Rare Fiets
12th - Katryn Deniaud - Rrrttt
13th - Ring Ring Rings - Russisch Roulette
14th - Linnet Radclyffe - Downstairs
15th - Devrim Guiness - The Difficulties

Kapitol Raionne
1st - HardLost - No
2nd - Young Butt Beautiful - You Shouldn't Go
3rd - Vody - Siniy Snih
4th - Lakhsma Ackerman - Zlaminii
5th - Callv - Try
6th - Patriksson Family - Little Bravehearted Boy
7th - Kallju - Make Show
8th - Yakscho Raiders - Ebbi buscheknyva
9th - Michelangela Albinsson - I Feel Like I'm Gone
10th - Wim Hall - Kiss You
11th - Junie Musta - Povin
12th - Marianna Monday - Frozen Kiss
13th - Runa Hillam - When I'm Going To Kiss You
14th - Gus Johnsson - My Favourite Dream
15th - Michal Hoedemaekers - Chenkorya

Binamissis
1st - Aggie - Morning Doubts
2nd - Martha - By The Way
3rd - Brant Naoumov - True Mistakes
4th - Sacha - Veled
5th - Radu DiAntonia - Ambitions
6th - New Kittens - Complete Lack of Words
7th - Reaumen - Devil's Hand
8th - Lysistrata Snijders - Mainstream
9th - Justh - Don't Trust
10th - Teatjaz feat. Shammion - Destiny
11th - Vidar Viddigy - Pereviznii
12th - KD - Show The World
13th - Lissy Assenberg - Come To Chenkorya
14th - Torture the Hamster - Screaming Gods
15th - Finlay Broccoli - Broccoli

Deltaï

1st - The Saweds - Promise
2nd - Mademoiselle - Buonanotte
3rd - Goldhirsch - Nich nomeyo zhitti
4th - Markii Papalou - De Markii?
5th - Ariel Maccus - Those Tears, They Came To Late
6th - Cleo Bonaventura - Extrovert
7th - Long Harry & Lét Huvain - Chante pour moi
8th - Lucía Mcnabb - Rich Rainbow
9th - Arjan Quigg - Smiles You Can Get Everywhere
10th - Otto Król & Louisa Vitor - Syohodni schye rhaz ne mnoyu
11th - Arvid feat. Galina - Born
12th - AVV - Thoughts
13th - Life In Prison Freaking Sucks - Locked Up Dance
14th - Manjula Selena - Remember
15th - Priklat - Stories Are The Road To Success

Gruzinskiy
1st - Katelyn Strand - Elizabeth
2nd - Lucasz Novak - Pidai kovdruyu
3rd - Outside - Elena
4th - Kazzi - Ni peczsal
5th - Daryl Olivers - Byez'tebu
6th - Crossing - The Pelican
7th - Brigida - White Nightmare
8th - Porreau - Bad Communication
9th - Darragh Schneider - Regret Has No Answer
10th - Klava Grigorescu - Backseat Love
11th - Taken Home - Unforgettable
12th - Chérie - Death Is Out To Get You
13th - F4 - La La La
14th - Janika Padev - Answers For Free
15th - IFHY swi - Eternal Orgy

Sazapkhulo
1st - Oda - Symphonia
2nd - József Spitznogle - The Key to Love
3rd - Mil€na - Champagne Shower
4th - Skydiver - Syohodni vyecheri
5th - Dmitry Magrov - Tanshuvaty zi mnoyu
6th - Sean Franklyn - Zyolot
7th - Brynhildr Bruce - Warthm and Coldness
8th - Dr. Hernandez feat. Erin Antonino - Za hratyami
9th - Dem!delv - Everywhere
10th - Alfo - Careless Love
11th - Galène Ruby - Fantastic
12th - Saturn - Ul'iubyene
13th - Emilie Aseli - Security Heart
14th - Chris Broz - It's True
15th - Lexa - Live With Me

Porti

1st - Mathilde van Oirschotten - Ik Wil Met Je Dansen
2nd - Life of Marina's Daughter - Ya vidchuvayte tebe
3rd - verba. - The Highest Tree
4th - Genowefa - Mystery
5th - Terezija + The Laydowns - We'll Shine
6th - Marthe Simon - Why
7th - Jan Fäber - Bulletproof
8th - Brunhilde - DJ
9th - Adrian - Shining Star
10th - Quintenlife - Space (Simplified)
11th - Gustav Reagan - Have Grace
12th - Dougherty feat. Sini Barta - Sinner
13th - Karolina Amatore - Rock n Roll Thinker
14th - Simplified for Girls - You Make The World Go Round
15th - Mark Bugnár - Deadly

So ladies and gentlemen, the lucky 42 are selected. The big favourites for the semifinals will be Gern Spearing, HardLost, Aggie, The Saweds, Katelyn Strand, Oda and Mathilde van Oirschotten. Who will pass to the final? This time, it is YOU who decides. More about how to vote in the first semifinal in the next post, stay tuned!

Chenkorya on Last.fm · by **Chenkorya** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:57 am

THE FIRST SEMIFINAL

Okay, this aren't the results yet. But this is the first step to the results. Of course all Chenkoryan provinces will vote in the first semifinal, but also other nations will be able to vote, and their votes are of the same importance as the provinces! So this is how it works...

All participating nations are allowed to vote in the usual ESC style. I've made a recap with all melodies of the songs in it; the melodies the song will be written on when the song wins! Please, please vote in the first semifinal, for the songs that your countries citizens are most plausible to like.

RECAP
Please TG me your nation's votes within now and five days. Then the results will be posted!

Full list of entries, in order of appearance in the video;

Patriksson Family - Small Bravehearted Boy
Mil€na - Champagne Shower
Martha - By The Way
Katelyn Strand - Elizabeth
Mathilde van Oirschotten - Ik Wil Met Je Dansen
Young Butt Beautiful - You Shouldn't Go
Samantha Butlin - Violin
Alfr Metz - Jij
József Spitznogle - The Key to Love
Cleo Bonaventura - Extrovert
Skydiver - Syohodni vyecheri
Aggie - Morning Doubts
Goldhirsch - Nich nomeyo zhitti
Vody - Siniy Snih
New Kittens - Complete Lack of Words
ChenkoMaff - Make It Mine
Kazzi - Ni peczsal
The Saweds - Promise
Life of Marina's Daughter - Ya vidchuvayte tebe
verba. - The Highest Tree
Outside - Elena

by **Phoenigetuzstha** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:57 am

Phoenigetuzstha will participate in WorldVision 21, and for the first time, will be hosting a national televoting selection. The results will be posted sometime soon.

by **Swilatia** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:05 pm

Chenkorya wrote:
Swilatia wrote:Well, it would. Are you familiar with the concept of vote-splitting, Chenkorya? I'm guessing not. So here's how it works: Let's say 8 people want Euski to host, and 6 want another nation. Well, Euski's bid would win the host voting. Now let's he and his puppet bid. Maybe he'd get 5 votes, his puppet 3 votes, and the other guy would still get six votes for his only one bid. Well, having two bids didn't help any-one win, did it now. Perhaps this might not be the same with the system used to pick the host of WSC20, but let's not use that one again.

I guess it doesn't matter that I said pretty much the same thing? But i suppose it's okay, we did sort of resolve this without the need for your constant involvement.

Swilatia, I don't think you are the one who decides which voting system is used and which isn't. KB is in favour of using that system (KB, don't say you're not, because you said you are.) and I am too. So that decision isn't made yet.

Whereas I think I am. Or, at least, that I should have a say in this sort of stuff.

Anyway, how about you let Kingsley speak his own mind about this? It can't be that hard for you to stand aside and let some-one else speak for a bit. Oh, and if turn out he doesn't want to support your voting system, that's his choice. He does have the right to change his mind about stuff.

Chenkorya on Last.fm · by **Chenkorya** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:09 pm

Swilatia wrote:
Chenkorya wrote:Swilatia, I don't think you are the one who decides which voting system is used and which isn't. KB is in favour of using that system (KB, don't say you're not, because you said you are.) and I am too. So that decision isn't made yet.

Whereas I think I am. Or, at least, that I should have a say in this sort of stuff.

Anyway, how about you let Kingsley speak his own mind about this? It can't be that hard for you to stand aside and let some-one else speak for a bit. Oh, and if turn out he doesn't want to support your voting system, that's his choice. He does have the right to change his mind about stuff.

Of course you have a say. But I can prove that KB has said that. That would make 2-1.
Whatever, if he wants to change his mind that's allright, but this voting system was allright. The chance on ties is small, so a second round is not necessary. I don't see what the problem of keeping this system is.

Oh, and btw, it isn't really my voting system. Maybe we have created it together. Actually we did, but if you want to believe I've created it because you think it's bad, it's okay.

by **Reythan** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:50 pm

All that I have to say, it's going to be awkward if Luziyca is the host. Wine doesn't cut it for the sons of the ice wastes. Combined with Thule being a Death Metal band...

by **Swilatia** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:25 pm

Luziyca won't be host. He tries this every time and it's never worked out for him... even last time, when he wasn't allowed to bid (first time taking part as Luziyca), and in contest 17 (first time taking part as Syvorji).

by **Central Lothian** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:28 pm

Central Lothian is pleased to announce that it will be making its WorldVision debut this time 'round.

OOC - I have yet to come up with the song and details about the act (i.e. which one's which [I already know what RL act I'll be using] and their name).

About me · by **Luziyca** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:41 pm

Swilatia wrote:Luziyca won't be host. He tries this every time and it's never worked out for him... even last time, when he wasn't allowed to bid (first time taking part as Luziyca), and in contest 17 (first time taking part as Syvorji).

You do not have the power of veto over other members of the WVCouncil. Only an unanimous vote will tell who can bid and who cannot.

by **Costa Fiero** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:43 pm

We'll be back. Our entry will be confirmed at a later date.

However, we'll make our first host bid ever:

Be kind as it is my first host bid.

by **Swilatia** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:45 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Swilatia wrote:Luziyca won't be host. He tries this every time and it's never worked out for him... even last time, when he wasn't allowed to bid (first time taking part as Luziyca), and in contest 17 (first time taking part as Syvorji).

You do not have the power of veto over other members of the WVCouncil. Only an unanimous vote will tell who can bid and who cannot.

*sigh* No-one's saying you can't bid, just, let's face it, there pretty much no chance you'll ever be chosen to host... especially if you keep trying to do it in two places.

The rules for host bids are the same as always, no first-time particpants are allowed to bid. That's not changing. So, yeah, your bid for WSC20 didn't get recognised for that reason.

by **Valeneska** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:02 pm

Valeneska in!

Our song will be "The Great Dictator", by NikiWorld

by **Kingsley Bedford** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:37 am

Chenkorya wrote:
Swilatia wrote:Whereas I think I am. Or, at least, that I should have a say in this sort of stuff.

Anyway, how about you let Kingsley speak his own mind about this? It can't be that hard for you to stand aside and let some-one else speak for a bit. Oh, and if turn out he doesn't want to support your voting system, that's his choice. He does have the right to change his mind about stuff.

Of course you have a say. But I can prove that KB has said that. That would make 2-1.
Whatever, if he wants to change his mind that's allright, but this voting system was allright. The chance on ties is small, so a second round is not necessary. I don't see what the problem of keeping this system is.

Oh, and btw, it isn't really my voting system. Maybe we have created it together. Actually we did, but if you want to believe I've created it because you think it's bad, it's okay.

Sorry Swilatia, but I do like that system. I think it can work, we just happended to have a 2nd round on the first time using it. The old system has had this too.

When we all voted for Krytenia's bid, we had no idea that he would withdraw from the contest during it. Plus it the ranking of all entries allows us to have clear backups for when we need a new host. I think just give it a chance.

Chenkorya was telling the truth. I do support that voting system.

by **Swilatia** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:03 am

*sigh* Didn't we give a chance last time? How many more does it need? Besides, of you did have a second round, as you said there was, there's clearly no advantage to this system, over using somthing a bit more simple.

Besides, IIRC, I don't think too many people actually voted for Krytenia's bid. Unless you can't having it as a second/third/sixth choice, which would mean that, this time, everyone must vote for Luziyca. Please don't make us do that.

by **Pahlavistan** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:59 am

Pahlavistan will participate with
Erich Ismaov performing "The Dream."

by **Kington Langley** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:16 am

We would like to announce our interest in performing again at WorldVision

Our performance this year shall be Zippy Zap Zap by Sob3rGuys

Chenkorya on Last.fm · by **Chenkorya** » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:08 am

Swilatia wrote:*sigh* Didn't we give a chance last time? How many more does it need? Besides, of you did have a second round, as you said there was, there's clearly no advantage to this system, over using somthing a bit more simple.

Besides, IIRC, I don't think too many people actually voted for Krytenia's bid. Unless you can't having it as a second/third/sixth choice, which would mean that, this time, everyone must vote for Luziyca. Please don't make us do that.

There wasn't really a second round. The runner up was given the hosting rights when Krytenia withdrawed. So there wasn't a second round, so somehow an advantage too.

And I don't see the problem of giving Luziyca just 1 point.

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