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by Arenumberg » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:14 pm
Recipient: Anikari Diplomatic Corps.
Sender: Vandor Akain, Foreign Minister, Areian Foreign Ministry.
Concern: Militant Expansion.
Communique as follows:
Salutations, Anikari friends;
It has come to the attention of Areia in all its glory that the Reconstituted Kingdom has engaged in a phase of expansion. We do not argue the right for the Anikari State to re-assume its rightful place, nor its need for expansion - we do however question the need for the overbearing use of its military to secure territory in the local clusters.
We are alarmed by the increase in both military standing and military readiness within the Anikari state - which continues to hold a number of unresolved border disputes partaining to individual states now subsumed by your reconstituted authority. In addition, Areia does not beleive the current amount of military forces still concerned with Areian-Anikari border security in particular are necessary or conducive to the normalisation of relations.
As such, we issue a formal protest on the grounds above to the overbearing use of military force at this current time. We do not beleive, as history has taught the Anikari in particular, that this use of military force and continued militant actions on the border will yeild anything less than bloodshed.
Vandor Akain,
In Areia be glorious,
On Behalf Of The Empress and Imperial Council.
by Arizona Nova » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:10 pm
by Arizona Nova » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:42 pm
Recipient: Areian Foreign Ministry, ATTN: Vandor Akain
Sender: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Concern: RE: Militant Expansion.
Hail, neighbors under the Areian aegis.
Leftover bad blood from the Repudiation of the Second Treaty of Unification implicit in Anandil's abandonment of the Carvinia Peace Conference notwithstanding, we are otherwise confused and perplexed at your statement of alarm and paranoia regarding our recent bout of expansion. It would make sense coming from fremdvolk, but your nation would have, I'd hope, deep understanding of our own, especially considering many of your people were alive when our nation took its first steps into deep space.
You are alarmed by the reconstruction of our military tradition; aghast at the fact we patrol space we are sovereign in; cite border disputes. What border disputes? Your sovereignty does not and never did extend anywhere in the Varanar-Rhuckh-Ikkaudl triangle. All of those territories declared their independence after Carvinia; all of those territories held on to that independence during the interim period between that and the present; all of those territories voluntarily came back under re-established Arizona Novanian aegis, itself founded on the bloodline of our first King, Anandil. Do not try and trap us in technicalities, as it will only be to your detriment, in terms of stable relations with our nation, especially that we now have the will and the way to resist baseless Areian aspersions on our sovereignty.
There is also little excuse for your ignorance of our traditions governing expansion. You know as well as I do that our military units have always spearheaded our initial territory scouting. This has been the case since the first "War" of this name. Anyone who does any less is the one in fact acting irresponsibly, if not immorally; by putting their civilians in grave danger, unsupported and unprotected in wild space.
You hope that our use of force will not result in bloodshed; whether you meant it or not, there is a threat implicit in this statement, one that I, my superiors, and my lord the king take very seriously. Let me speak plainly: Areian aggression in these matters will not be tolerated. It is our right and imperative to expand, as you have stated; whether we do so sending forth a single battleship or by the weak-willed, cowardly expulsion of unarmed, unhappy settlers is not your concern.
God's Mercy and Anikar's Blessing to you,
In the Name of the King.
Pius Sameer
by Arenumberg » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:34 pm
Recipient: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Sender: Vandor Akain, Foreign Minister, Areian Foreign Ministry.
Continued Concern: Militant Expansion.
Communique as follows:
Pleasantries aside,
It is for reasons partaining to past knowledge and intimate first hand dealing with the Anikari and their affiliates that we show such concern for their actions. Is it not Arizona Nova who in their first tentative steps beyond their cluster were involved in a war with foreign powers, a war that could of easily been avoided had you not been questioned of your motives? We do not question your right to expand, we do question the method in which you seek to do so - as is our right as a state concerned for not just ourselves, but those who surround us.
It is my beleif you take great meaning from simple words, we are of course alarmed by a military buildup in a neighbouring state, which polity would not be? Aghast we are not. We, whether practical or not - still do not beleive our border has been correctly established following the resumption of centralised authority in Arizona Nova, how can you overlook such simple matters as possible habitable worlds on the border which must be addressed, or indeed, concerns either side may have over former joint possessions such as Kelwynd or Varanar, regardless of time that has passed or duty of care. The law is final in this regard - and as far as we are concerned there is no law, so how are we to act?
There is little point in this communique dealing with what you perceive to be threats or aspersions on your sovereignity, if this were the case, why would we deign as to treat you so by hoping to address our concerns frankly, only to be met with a response more qualified for someone you do not consider your "friend" as you sought to label us previously - but your so called fremdvolk?
It was our hope that our concerns - sent in good faith - could be addressed quickly and without vitriol. It is my personal hope this is still the case, regardless of Novanian beleif of interference or otherwise. There are numerous less militaristic ways to pursue expansionary goals, as we ourselves have demonstrated over the past years.
I will reiterate, we do not challenge your right to do what you do, only the manner in which you do it, as many nations have done amongst themselves in a civilized manner - and indeed, for many aeons. We see no reason why this should become such a radical notion to the Novanian state at this juncture. You reserve the right, as any state does, to ignore our concerns. We however beleive you do so at your own peril. We do not wish to see Arizona Nova embroiled in yet another unnecessary and bitter war for the cause of a few lifeless worlds.
We leave an open invitation for a diplomatic envoy to address this in a more convenient and expedient manner, either within Areian or Novanian territory at your discretion. As an addendum, we also wish to inform you of our intent to establish a new permanent embassy in Arizona Nova, with the act reciprocated if you wish.
I leave you, hopefully, with a better insight and cause for friendship.
Vandor Akain,
In Areia be glorious,
On Behalf Of The Empress and Imperial Council.
by Arizona Nova » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:31 pm
Recipient: Vandor Akain, Foreign Minister, Areian Foreign Ministry
Sender: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Continued Concern: RE: Militant Expansion.
I apologize if you mistake my candor for vitriol. I take it as a point of professional pride not to mince words, and make it clear, for the benefit of whoever is receiving my messages, what my meaning is.
If we are the friends you claim us to be, by the terms of our earlier relationships, not even taking into consideration the ties that bind us through the ESUS, then military buildup on our part should be no concern of yours; on the contrary, it should be celebrated, as our renewed strength means that you have a strong ally guarding your flanks.
Your questioning of our methods for colonization remains outrageous and irrelevant, however. Your people have their methods, and we have ours. If yours work, and do not involve directly or indirectly the threat of military force, it is by sheer luck. You are bound to one day roll the die of fate badly, and woe betide your poor citizens on that day. They may very well sell their souls for the presence of a mighty Eisenfaust.
You speak of Varanar and Kelwynd; your only legacy on the former is architecture, and your aegis over the latter never contested, though we could have done so easily. Consider it a trade more than fair. As it stands now, Varanar abides happily and gloriously under the rule of its Grand Duchy; indeed Grand Duchess Mirella Altraia has married our king, herself, and Grand Duke Belshazzar Verdegris was the first to endorse Kemelzar as rightful king of Arizona Nova. To rattle swords over that matter would be incalculably petty, and if not result in the immense displeasure of our king, then the wrath of the Grand Dukes, and the billions of Anikari who call Varanar their home, under the Arizona Novanian flag, God be praised!
You are granted permission to establish an embassy upon the world of Ondataru, as its green and healthily arboreal state would undoubtedly be more pleasing to you than the pressurized hallways of Joyous Gard or the scorch of Rhuckh's vast deserts, but bear in mind that this will be a temporary embassy only. Once our navy completes its mission, Anikar willing, we shall establish anywhere from four to six new urban centers on our western fringe, one of which I am sure the king will pick as a new capital. Unlike New Constantinople or Arizona Nove in their prime, strict controls will be put in place to maintain its population at sustainable levels for minimal overall impact, both to preserve the planet's ecology and reduce casualties in case of attack. We have no doubt you will appreciate this progressive new outlook.
God's Mercy and Anikar's Blessing to you,
In the Name of the King.
Pius Sameer
P.S. And yes, you can assume mutual dispatch of a diplomat of ours to a world of your choosing.
by Arenumberg » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:41 am
Recipient: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Sender: Adelia Ostermann, Diplomat First Class, Areian Foreign Ministry.
Continued Concern: As Applicable.
Greetings, Pius Sameer, The Foreign Minister has now assigned the handling of this diplomatic thoroughfare to me, and as such I offer you this customary, minor, introduction.
On Behalf of Areia your apology is accepted, although we still find a case for continued subtle cases of a condascending demeanour being protrayed through your responses - I beleive you sir, as a diplomat - indeed, as one Anikari to another, should behave in a manner more appropriate to ones position. Please do not take this as simple words may appear, but nothing more than friendly advice.
First addressing your case of military buildup. We have made no official stance in regards to personal feelings and only to matters of security with a state we know not the intentions of. Regardless of affiliation through ESUS, which, I may remind you - is a notably non binding trade alliance. I will also reference past cases such as the ESUS civil war, where former friends outside of the organisation were all too eager to destroy one another in the name of ideology or territory. We merely wish to have these concerns addressed in a more.. pleasant manner.. than.. idle posturing from the Novanian diplomatic corps as to how "beneficial" it <can> be to how beneficial it <will> be.
In terms of Areian issues concerning MILITANT expansion, please understand this case properly. We do not beleive you should send colony fleets with no escort into the deep wild, we do however beleive scouting thoroughly, sending small colonial assets with appropriate escort etc is a preferable method - of far less aggressive a manner - in these cases. As we have referenced previously, sending large armed vessels in order to secure territory one knows little about results in the kind of issues a state once known as Arizona Nova experienced in this very similar situation. We argue not for death of innocents, but simply for restraint and forethought. If the Anikari and their affiliate species find our concern for their safety and lives "outrageous and irrelevant" we dread to wonder how you would act under different circumstances where lives were truely at stake.
In all due respect, as the foreign minister attempted to convey earlier - the law is final. In Areia, there has been no demarkation of the border, there has been no official treatise regarding the status of these worlds. There is no formal agreement concerning colonisation of worlds in the border zone. There are no treatise governing border transit, there are no treatise relating to border security. Whilst it would be simple enough to take your simple words as fact - the case is we cannot. We have now, repeatedly asked for clarification on this subject and you refuse to respond in kind, merely under some guise of "fair trade" in respect to only a portion of what was refered to. Regardless of Arizona Novanian outlook in this regard, we are a sovereign state ourselves and require such action. We are at a loss as to understand why you cannot grasp this. This is a simple case of the rule of law, we cannot continue to operate with the resumed polity neighbouring us when we there is no law governing where that nationstate begins, can we? If you, once again, fail to grasp this concept we are trying to address either here or through diplomatic conference it will not bode well for continued relations.
In terms of the rather.. undiplomatic manner you accepted our request for an Embassy, we were, of course, in the hope something fruitful in terms of our other concerns may of been yielded by now, as it has not - we must request a stay on the issue of an Embassy untill these issues are resolved. Pending the resolution of our issues we will gladly accept the locale requested, and indeed, respond in kind with your own facility.
Until we speak again, Anikar's blessing upon you,
Adelia Ostermann,
In Areia be glorious,
On Behalf Of The Foreign Ministry, The Empress and Imperial Council.
by Arizona Nova » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:25 pm
Recipient: Adelia Ostermann, Diplomat First Class, Areian Foreign Ministry.
Sender: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Continued Concern: Ad infinitum
I greet you warmly, Sister in Anikar. I am however hurt by your careless aspersions on my qualities as a professional. I would not be in this position if I was not immensely successful in the fine art of negotiations, or did not have the king's trust and confidence. I speak as he would, with all the strength, honesty, and power our grand heritage carries. I also speak out of some wrath and schadenfreude - you are surely as aware of the recent debacle in the ESUS Senate as I am, and the very physical and profance disgracing of our Diplomatic Corps at the hands of the Allaneans? Perhaps it would have turned out differently had I been there, or more convenient for you if the apparent weakling we'd dispatched to the ESUS had been here to assuage you with honey-dripping words. Fate is never so convenient.
The war you furnish as an example of "disastrous" aggressive expansion was anything but. It resulted in two peace treaties, an alliance with the Otagians, and one war, which was a hard-won victory over the Tsurani aggressors; a war which began because we made the mistake of sending out weak scouting parties <first>, and then the battleships. In terms of the ESUS, you cite exceptions, and not rules.
I would have thought our intentions were clear - defend the Arizona Novanian polity, and expand its aegis into unoccupied space. What has your nation ever had to fear from that? But I take it you want a formal agreement made to guarantee our passivity toward you, and to set down in writing our current borders. So be it. Varanar would be an ideal place to hold such a conference, would it not? Name the time, and we shall come together there to hammer out your peace.
God's Mercy and Anikar's Blessing with you,
In the Name of the King.
Pius Sameer
by Polish Worlds » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:31 pm
by Arenumberg » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:33 pm
Recipient: Diplomatic Corps Arenumbergian Liaison, Pius Sameer
Sender: Adelia Ostermann, Diplomat First Class, Areian Foreign Ministry.
Continued Concern: Ad infinitum? Que?
Regardless of personal or professional views in this case, I beleive we have acheived a form of critical mass and that you have finally decided to address our concerns. Heretofore we now expedite our acceptance of the embassy graciously offered previously, and will provide one in return to be decided at the aforementioned diplomatic meeting you have so wisely deigned to grant us.
A delegation will be dispatched at your earliest convenience. It is my personal wish it meets more success than your earlier exchanges with the Foreign Minister. Truely, I thank you for making my job that much more interesting.
Until we speak again, Anikar's blessing upon you once more,
Adelia Ostermann,
In Areia be glorious,
On Behalf Of The Foreign Ministry, The Empress and Imperial Council.
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