Urgench wrote:There's a Gameplay forum right ? Whay can't Gameplayers sort out there differences there, I mean now that the Forum is in-game so to speak why do Gameplayers need to create new organisations which could simply be set up in the Gameplay forum without any need for compliated code issues ?
Because our game depends on the code. It's predicated on the grouping of nations in regions, their membership in the WA, and their endorsement count. It is concerned with the words written on an RMB or WFE, and sometimes even the flag flown over a nation. We can no more do without the NS code than WA legislators could do without the proposal queue and voting process. To create a Gameplay council here that could talk but not affect the code would be like allowing you to discuss WA legislation without being able to pass any of it.
W.A. regulars have to do their work in the forums, so do IIers and Generalites why can't Gameplayers ?
We do almost all of our work in the forums... off-site forums, which provide us with a sense of identity, self-determination, and security. We have regional forums, which have varying levels of complexity and secrecy - those serve as our real homes in NS. We also meet on each other's forums for conferences, or create brand new (= neutral) forums for particularly significant conventions or interregional organizations. All of our diplomatic work gets done on those forums - that's where we "sort out" our differences. Hosting something like that here would involve co-opting this entire forum for that purpose, and would not allow us to organize threads by topic, create subforums to deal with appeals, or otherwise structure the madness that would ensue. In January of 2008, for example, we had 166 participants show up for a conference on how to save NS. That took place in Neutral Territory, which over the span of 2 weeks until the conference ended grew 4 major forum categories, 15 subforums within those, and 2929 posts in over 100 threads.
That's just for a 2 week game-wide conference, where information was spread word-of-mouth and at which, as a result, not every region was represented. We elected no leaders and set up no committees, because it was a temporary brainstorming session. That would not be the case with the type of Security Council proposed here. There is no way the official forums could house a permanent Gameplay organization on that scale - there's not enough forum infrastructure in place here to support even the most basic political institutions. The official forums could be an interface - a court of appeals, at best. The real business would need to take place off-site.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Well, that's exactly what I don't want. I don't want a Gameplay organization to be in any way related to the World Assembly. It's muddling things for no necessary reason. If it's possible split the WA, then it's possible to create a completely separate and distinct organization.
Is this just an argument over what the thing is named, or do you want Gameplayers to have membership in some other body besides the WA?