The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC)

[Newmanistan]

Ok, Lovisa clause will be omitted... I thought that could be cause for debate so not entirely surprised. (Rennidan would have been eligible under this).

As for the rankings deal, I just want to get the committee set up and in place, and then we can work on the that.
I'll discuss the good questions raised about it later tonight.

[Delaclava]

Me liking the committee idea.

[The Babbage Islands]

Scrapping the Lovisa clause is a good move. So is deferring the question of ratings adoption until after there is a committee.

I am of two minds about minimum standards for committee membership -- one WB or two as a prerequisite -- but I think gridiron is still small enough that one is preferable for now, especially since the move from the Jolt forum to here brought with it a significant infusion of nations.

On another front -- if we are looking at a mid-August time frame for World Bowl VIII, the ongoing Golfinator tests dictate that I not submit a bid. If we are looking at a start closer to (US) Labor Day the first week of September, I may prepare one.

[Arroza]

WORLD BOWL COMMITTEE PROPOSAL

Gridiron playing nations, I hereby propose that the World Bowl Committee now, officially, be formed. Under terms of this proposal:

a) All nations that participated in World Bowl 6 OR 7 by posting a roster will be automatically admitted.
b) New nations in World Bowl 8 (and in the future) will become World Bowl Committee members, as long as they posted a roster at minimum, at the clonclusion of the World Bowl in which they joined in.
c) "The Lovisa Clause"- Any nation that has signed up for at least five World Bowls between World Bowls 1 and 7 but may not have posted a roster in any is deemed as being knowledgeable enough as to the goings on, and will also be admitted.
d) Nations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Bowls.
e) Prior hosts of a World Bowl will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster ]at minimum) in three consecutive World Bowls.
f) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members. Any person receiving two nominations will be put in a vote. The winner of the vote is elected President. Only WBC members may vote.
g) Voting for a World Bowl host shall be restricted to be members of the WBC.



This is just a proposal, but I'd like to get something done soon on this. Thoughts on it?

a) Agreed only because of the great influx of new players for WB7[/color]
b) After 8, I would like to see that rule amended to teams with 2 Bowls worth of active participation. It should at least be open to discussion.
c) If you keep rule a and b is is I vote to remove rule c "The Lovisa Clause" as these nations can get back into having voting capability by posting in 1 tournament, not the World Cup's 2.
d,e,g) Okay
f) Okay for now, but eventually I'd like to see the President's role/powers.

[The Babbage Islands]

I agree with Arroza's suggestion that the requirement for committee status be restored to two WBs after World Bowl 8. Since Newmanistan has already removed paragraph c) (the Lovisa Clause), may I suggest a new paragraph b) and c)?

a) All nations that participated in World Bowl 6 OR 7 by posting a roster will be automatically admitted.
b) New nations in World Bowl 8 who post a roster in that event will also become World Bowl Committee members at the conclusion of World Bowl 8.
c) After World Bowl 8, new members of the Committee will only be qualified by entering and posting a roster in two consecutive World Bowls, and will be admitted at the conclusion of the second of those World Bowls.
d) Nations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Bowls.
e) Prior hosts of a World Bowl will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster ]at minimum) in three consecutive World Bowls.
f) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members. Any person receiving two nominations will be put in a vote. The winner of the vote is elected President. Only WBC members may vote.
g) Voting for a World Bowl host shall be restricted to be members of the WBC.

[Newmanistan]

WORLD BOWL COMMITTEE PROPOSAL- Version 2.0

Gridiron playing nations, I hereby propose that the World Bowl Committee now, officially, be formed. Under terms of this proposal:

a) All nations that participated in World Bowl 6 OR 7 by posting a roster will be automatically admitted into the initial World Bowl Committee. Afterwards, a nation will had to have participated in the previous two World Bowls.
b) Nations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Bowls.
c) Prior hosts of a World Bowl will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in three consecutive World Bowls.
d) Voting for a World Bowl host shall be restricted to be members of the WBC.
e) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members. Any person receiving two nominations will be put in a vote. The winner of the vote is elected President. Only WBC members may vote.

Duties of the World Bowl Committee President shall be:
-- Creation of World Bowl sign-up thread after a discussion with committee members when the best timing for the next World Bowl should be.
-- Organizing votes for the World Bowl and Baptism of Iron hosting, and then tabulating those votes.
-- In the event of tie in said vote, they will cast the tiebreaker vote if they had not previously voted, or remove their vote if they were one of the ones who did.
-- Organizing votes for rule changes or changes to this World Bowl Committee document. Any desired change will need to be requested by three WBC members within a span of two weeks, if so, it will go to a vote. For it to become a change, it must pass via a 2/3rds majority.
-- Make efforts to uphold the integrity of the World Bowl if at any time it seen as though a participant is acting dishonorably.
-- Mediate any arguments or conflicts between participants during a World Bowl with the understanding that the host has final discretion over the running of it. However, if the problem is with the host then the President may step in for a resolution.


(Ok, so how does this look now? Ranking point discussions can follow after this is put in place, as the first matter of business for the WBC).

[Delaclava]

Looks good. If there's a sort of voting to approve this, I vote yay.

[Arroza]

Approved.

[The Babbage Islands]

We support the Version 2.0 as presented.

[Cassadaigua]

Two thumbs up.

[The Fanboyists]

Whatever. Works for me.

[Fujisawan Territories]

This has my support.

[Vephrall]

The field goal proposal is good! Actually I do have a minor issue with the presidential tiebreaker vote, but not enough of one for me to vote against.

[Sarzonia]

This still hasn't addressed if there will be a vice president chosen. It also says nothing about amending this. If this is voted in as is, we can't amend it.

[Delaclava]

I propose an addition to the first part then.

f) Upon approval from two-thirds of WBC-eligible nations, this proposal shall become the Constitution of the World Bowl Committee.
g) The Constitution may be amended as necessary. To be amended, a quorum of three WBC members must be reached within two weeks for an amendment, at which point the amendment may be approved and added to the WBC Constitution with an approval of two-thirds of WBC members.

With clauses f) and g) added, I propose a change to the fourth clause of the Presidential Duties section:

--Organizing votes for rule changes or changes to the WBC Constitution.

Changes are re-identifying the WBC document as the WBC Constitution and striking out the rest of the clause, as it has already been explained in the main part of the Constitution.

[Newmanistan]

WORLD BOWL COMMITTEE PROPOSAL- Version 3.0

Gridiron playing nations, I hereby propose that the World Bowl Committee now, officially, be formed. Under terms of this proposal:

a) All nations that participated in World Bowl 6 OR 7 by posting a roster will be automatically admitted into the initial World Bowl Committee. Afterwards, a nation will had to have participated in the previous two World Bowls.
b) Nations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Bowls.
c) Prior hosts of a World Bowl will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in three consecutive World Bowls.
d) Voting for a World Bowl host shall be restricted to be members of the WBC.
e) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members. Any person receiving two nominations will be put in a vote. The winner of the vote is elected President, and the second place finisher shall serve as the vice-president. Only WBC members may vote.
f) Amendments to this document need to be requested by three WBC members within a span of two weeks. If so, it will go to a vote and must be passed by a 2/3rds majority.

Upon approval, this proposal thereby becomes the Constitution of the WBC.

Duties of the World Bowl Committee President shall be:
-- Creation of World Bowl sign-up thread after a discussion with committee members when the best timing for the next World Bowl should be.
-- Organizing votes for the World Bowl and Baptism of Iron hosting, and then tabulating those votes.
-- In the event of tie in said vote, they will cast the tiebreaker vote if they had not previously voted, or remove their vote if they were one of the ones who did.
-- Organizing votes for rule changes or changes to this World Bowl Committee document. Any desired change will need to be requested by three WBC members within a span of two weeks, if so, it will go to a vote. For it to become a change, it must pass via a 2/3rds majority.
-- Make efforts to uphold the integrity of the World Bowl if at any time it seen as though a participant is acting dishonorably.
-- Mediate any arguments or conflicts between participants during a World Bowl with the understanding that the host has final discretion over the running of it. However, if the problem is with the host then the President may step in for a resolution.

Duties of the Vice-President:
-- The Vice-President shall be the person who finished second in the WBC presidential voting.
-- They will assume the role of President in the following situations:
a) The President has ceased-to-exist
b) The President has failed to respond to an issue raised over a span of two weeks (in regards to the issue raised).
c) At request of the President.

(Changes: Addition of Vice President position and their duties, and clause F concerning amendments).
(Ok, so how does this look now? Ranking point discussions can follow after this is put in place, as the first matter of business for the WBC).

[Newmanistan]

The above proposal is being put to a vote now. Please TG me your vote. Voting will conclude on Friday at noon eastern US time.

If you participated in World Bowls 6 or 7 with a roster, you have a vote.

[Newmanistan]

ANNOUNCEMENT:

The World Bowl Committee Constitution Vote has come to an end. It is my pleasure to announce that by a vote of 7-1, the document has been approved. It is now an official document.

Now we need a president. Nominate someone if you wish here on the thread, and anyone receiving two nominations will become a candidate and we will have an election. The nominating process will conclude at noon on Wednesday. You cannot nominate yourself. Well you could if you really wanted too, but I am not going count it.

I will start with nominating. I nominate Dancougar.

[Taeshan]

I nominate myself, oh wait that would be selfish, hmm well then i will nominate, no one.

[Palmouth]

I wish to nominate Newmanistan

[Dancougar]

a) All nations that participated in World Bowl 6 OR 7 by posting a roster will be automatically admitted into the initial World Bowl Committee. Afterwards, a nation will had to have participated in the previous two World Bowls.
e) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members.

(emphasis mine)

I wish to nominate Newmanistan

Given the requirements in what is now the letter of the law, you're ineligible to nominate a candidate. Otherwise, I would have seconded it.

So this is me firsting it ^_^

[Delaclava]

Ooh, two great candidates, and I can only pick one. Which one to back?

I guess I'll go with Dancougar.

[Taeshan]

They might not be the only two bids, someone could nominate Qazox which he would refuse or perhaps me, wniks come on someone, (i know i wont win but still it would be great.)

[Delaclava]

They might not be the only two bids, someone could nominate Qazox which he would refuse or perhaps me, wniks come on someone, (i know i wont win but still it would be great.)

I know, I just thought Dan and New were the most...qualified, I guess.

[Taeshan]

I don't really care now, i was just saying that anyone else could actually get a few votes or something.