Argentumurbem wrote:The Independent Hazerls wrote:I wouldn't think Euron would use all his ships for the landing. How many are you planning to use?Mate you have already meta'ed knowing Euron and his destination (considering that no one knows he is back, that the Kingsmoot ended, and everyone still thinks the ironborn are fighting in the North). I think a massive defeat is in order for balance
(EDIT: And I'd honestly just use the fact that the ironborn would have been moving at the same time as the Tyrells so that the Shield Isles fell before certain reinforcements arrived, considering that most of the men and ships went from Kingslanding.)
Using the canon tactic the Redwyne ships will be destroyed as they flounder near the shallower waters of the Mander and the Shield longboats will simply be too small to stand up to the vast war vessels of the iron fleet. Then the garrisons (who may or may not sally forth) will be traumatised by the crushing defeat handed to them by the ironborn and in a brief and bloody series of sieges the Shield Isles will fall.
The Iron Fleet musters 100 warships but every major house can muster another 100 longships (which amounts to 500 longships) so 600 in total. Add to that 20k soldiers (well 18k minus those lost to the north)Warg the Immortal wrote:Its not as though we need to make more, my shield scorchers already use it in regular battles, so they would have a reserve of it. And I looked on the wiki of ice and fire, and it said the Alchemists Guild are the only one in the Seven Kingdoms to know its recipe, didn't say anything about Essos
Asshai is the only Essosi city known to house pyromancers in any quantity and they are basically out-of-bounds. Its more the fact that you are a sellsword. Sellswords don't use wildfire as they simply do not have the infrastructure to do so. Take the Golden Company for example: 10k men at arguably their weakest point (post Step Stones) well respected, has the money (presumably, based on the wealth of its leaders) and yet doesn't field it. They have elephants and yet no access to wildfire. But as the OP has green lit it this argument became academic so I'll drop it.The Valyria Empire wrote:Going by what I believed most houses reactions would be I've determined pretty much which houses will be on what side since Jon is helping rallying them.
Stannis and Jon-Umber, Reed, Mormont, Manderly, Hills Clans, Skagos, Cerywn, Flint of Widow's Watch
Neutral (Trying to recover from WOTFK and the Ironborn presence)-House Flint of Flint's Finger, House Glover, House Dustin, House Tallhart
Bolton-House Whitehill(plus all houses that are vassals of the Dreadfort), House Karstark, House Frey
Don't forget that Rickon is on Skagos with Osha. I bet once they hear word of Jon marching south they'll reveal him..
Just to clarify are these the public stances of the Houses or will some have to have work done?
Secondly, I am assuming that defeating the ironborn threat will win over Glover and Tallhart (since it is their keeps which are taken)?
Barbrey Dustin/Ryswell is very anti-Stark though, so would it be more amicable to have them pro-Bolton initially? Also what of Ryswell? (I'd assume in the same boat as Dustin, but more out of Lord Ryswell's desire to aid his daughter than love for Bolton)
(EDIT: Yeah, Rickon would probably arrive with the Skagos as I was just going to have Davos "pass the word" to Magnar then high tail it to White Harbour)
Yes to all of this. Also I gave them the five pots, and that's all they have. He can't make more.
