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Postby Miraaki » Wed May 25, 2016 1:41 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:
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No I called the ideals insane, not Kauthar himself. And telling someone to mature a bit isn't flamebait. He's 14 for fucks sake. Why shouldn't I be able to tell him to mature when he espouses obviously half-baked insanity that sounds better suited for a parody of 4chan than for a debate forum?

14 and a half actually 8)
This isn't a real legislature, I don't have to sweat out a 500 word mini-essay detailing and backing up every single one of my personal viewpoints just so some whiny leftist can cry and report me. I would add you to my foe's list but that would make me look like a pussy.

Liriena wrote:First of all, your self-righteous slut-shaming is far more disgusting than anything this girl did.
Second of all, don't try and act like teenagers having sex is an invention of modern society. Human history is riddled with tales of teenagers having sex, often with people far older than them, and sometimes under social pressure to do so. So take your ignorant reactionary nonsense elsewhere. Preferably Stormfront or /pol/.

I'll take my viewpoints where I want them. Slut-shaming is perfectly fine, whores are degenerates and she's probably picked up a few STDs from this

Liriena wrote:No, it's a human being.

A used human being

I would assume this post to be flaming.

EDIT:

Found some more:

Great Kauthar wrote:Degenerate sexual behaviour needs to be stamped out. It's disgusting to know that modern society has abandoned all moral values. Hope the girl gets ostracised by fellow students for this.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed May 25, 2016 2:08 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:14 and a half actually 8)
This isn't a real legislature, I don't have to sweat out a 500 word mini-essay detailing and backing up every single one of my personal viewpoints just so some whiny leftist can cry and report me. I would add you to my foe's list but that would make me look like a pussy.

I would assume this post to be flaming.
fwiw, I think this was actually the more actionable of the quoted bit, but meh. *shrugs*

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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed May 25, 2016 2:31 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:14 and a half actually 8)
This isn't a real legislature, I don't have to sweat out a 500 word mini-essay detailing and backing up every single one of my personal viewpoints just so some whiny leftist can cry and report me. I would add you to my foe's list but that would make me look like a pussy.

I would assume this post to be flaming.
fwiw, I think this was actually the more actionable of the quoted bit, but meh. *shrugs*

And I would assume that you know better than to post speculative opinion posts in a clearly marked 'Report' thread. *** 1 day ban for spamming Moderation *** when you should've known better.

As for the reported posts, they've been addressed.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Wed May 25, 2016 3:19 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:I would assume this post to be flaming.
fwiw, I think this was actually the more actionable of the quoted bit, but meh. *shrugs*

And I would assume that you know better than to post speculative opinion posts in a clearly marked 'Report' thread. *** 1 day ban for spamming Moderation *** when you should've known better.

As for the reported posts, they've been addressed.

Okay fuck this. I'm done with these forums, if it hurts my feelings, get rid of it, must be the moderation teams new rule of thumb
i love how quickly reports against me are addressed, but reports I make are ignored or take forever, or deemed "unactionable" but I would get warned/banned for the same thing
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu May 26, 2016 9:00 am

Kryozerkia wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:I would assume this post to be flaming.
fwiw, I think this was actually the more actionable of the quoted bit, but meh. *shrugs*

And I would assume that you know better than to post speculative opinion posts in a clearly marked 'Report' thread. *** 1 day ban for spamming Moderation *** when you should've known better.

As for the reported posts, they've been addressed.


Umm, wasn't DLN reporting the thing she quoted? I would understand the warning if she hadn't reported anything, but I would think including a report would mean she was not spamming moderation. Could you clarify if that is the case, or if any opinion would make it spamming moderation.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 26, 2016 9:12 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:And I would assume that you know better than to post speculative opinion posts in a clearly marked 'Report' thread. *** 1 day ban for spamming Moderation *** when you should've known better.

As for the reported posts, they've been addressed.


Umm, wasn't DLN reporting the thing she quoted? I would understand the warning if she hadn't reported anything, but I would think including a report would mean she was not spamming moderation. Could you clarify if that is the case, or if any opinion would make it spamming moderation.

I believe the reason was that she wasn't reporting anything new- the post she quoted in part was already quoted in full by the OP, thus making her post little more than an opinion post rather than adding anything new. It's currently being appealed right now though.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu May 26, 2016 9:40 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
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Umm, wasn't DLN reporting the thing she quoted? I would understand the warning if she hadn't reported anything, but I would think including a report would mean she was not spamming moderation. Could you clarify if that is the case, or if any opinion would make it spamming moderation.

I believe the reason was that she wasn't reporting anything new- the post she quoted in part was already quoted in full by the OP, thus making her post little more than an opinion post rather than adding anything new. It's currently being appealed right now though.


Thanks for the clarification.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Thu May 26, 2016 3:10 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Umm, wasn't DLN reporting the thing she quoted? I would understand the warning if she hadn't reported anything, but I would think including a report would mean she was not spamming moderation. Could you clarify if that is the case, or if any opinion would make it spamming moderation.

I believe the reason was that she wasn't reporting anything new- the post she quoted in part was already quoted in full by the OP, thus making her post little more than an opinion post rather than adding anything new. It's currently being appealed right now though.

I came to report /that/ part of the quote, and merely noted that the part I was focused on appeared to be more actionable in nature. Seeing someone had beaten me to it, I didn't think there was any harm in posting the bit I'd come to report - with the emphasis on the part I'd been focused on.

But apparently, reporting something in a thread you're active in, if the mods deem you are 'acting on authority you don't have', is actionable these days. We'll toss aside the fact that I have gone out of my way to let folks know I'm no longer a moderator, and my posts carry no more weight than any other player.

The appeal, btw, was denied. I'll let the rest of you folks read whatever you like into it. My opinion on the matter has been made quite clear. (It's bullshit, and bias, and had it been someone else, it wouldn't have been acted on with the harshness it was.)

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Mallorea and Riva wrote:DLN is free to appeal any rulings regarding her punishment, just like any other user.

If you think the mod team is behaving in a way that requires intervention from on high, please file a GHR detailing the alleged abuse. Since Discussion threads are not meant for the discussion of particular punishments... iLock.

Yes, I am free to appeal. But I am not, it appears, free to discuss it with any of you, nor get a fair hearing on it if I do appeal. Especially when all one receives are canned responses and boilerplate messages via VOM.
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