Council of APSIA | [APSIA Councillors Only]

[Vanavoy]

Thats really all I use it for to begin with, i dont really ever ban or supress people for personal reasons.[/quote]

All the more reason to support it. If you already only use it well, we might as well make it official.

[Noxtrem]

I'm going to edit the proposal. I think that the council has reached a consensus that we want NGU to stay as president kn the council. So why don't we just edit out that part and let the people vote on it? I'll do the editing myself.

[Noxtrem]

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. #10, on Terms for the Council
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by [nation=short]Uhmericah[/nation] and Edited by [nation=short]Walgreens[/nation] and [Nation=short]Noxtrem[/nation]
ISSUE: There are no terms in the Council.
Nations of APSIA,Concerned at the lack of terms for members of the Council

Noting that this is an undemocratic system as the people are unable to remove a member of the Council once the member has been elected.

Further Noting that a Councillor may abuse his or her power or make decisions that harm the people and there is nothing the people can do about this.

Worried that as APSIA grows and the maximum number of regional officers is reached, there will be no more opportunities for residents to run as Councillor turning APSIA into a dictatorship,

Yet Understanding that our Founder/President is trustworthy, and it would be a statistical nightmare to replace him.


On May 1st, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares

1. After being elected a Councillor or Elder Councillor shall remain in office for four months and then shall be dissmissed.
2. After being elected the Vice President shall remain in office for eight months and then shall be dissmissed.
3. The Founder of the Region can have his power restricted, but will never lose his full authority. And his power will therefore be restricted to being a councilor, and maintaining the region and serving as a moderator.
4. While a member of the Council is in office the people of APSIA may petition to impeach any member of the Council who they think too be abusing their power or making desicsions that hurt the prosperity of APSIA. Two thirds of the public must agree for this to be carried out.

These are my edits. I propose that we pass this version down to the people for voting.

[Nationalist Gold Union]

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Revision to amendment #1, on Terms for the Council
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by Uhmericah and edited by Walgreens and Nationalist Gold Union
ISSUE: There are no terms in the Council.
Nations of APSIA,

CONCERNED with the lack of terms for members of the Council
NOTING that the current council system is undemocratic.
OBSERVING that a Councilor may abuse his or her power without any possibility of retribution for the general populous of APSIA.
WORRIED that as APSIA grows to its peak there will be no opportunities for residents to run as Councilor resulting in a dictatorship,
YET UNDERSTANDING the President of APSIA is a job that is nearly impossible to organize replacement for,

On May 1st, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares and adds to the Amendment 1:

1. After being elected a Councillor or Elder Councillor shall remain in office for six months and then must run for re-election,
2. After being elected the Vice President shall remain in office for six months and then must run for re-election,
3. While a member of the Council is in office the people of APSIA may petition to impeach any member of the Council who is guilt of abusing their power or making desicsions that impede the prosperity of APSIA.
4. Such impeachments must reach a two thirds vote from the public to be carried out.

I feel like this would be better to have as a revision/amendment to amendment 1.

This is the updated version, as I had said earlier we do NOT need to make it an amendment.

[Nationalist Gold Union]

I support this revision.

(1-[ 9 ]-0)

[Rutthenia]

Against. I still want a 6 month term instead of 4.

[Hendletonia]

Against. I still want a 6 month term instead of 4.

Same. Me and Rutthenia will not be voting on this bill until it is revised.

[Nationalist Gold Union]

Updated. I assume your votes changed?

[Walgreens]

Updated. I assume your votes changed?

Da. Walgreens agrees. Roll her through so we can get down to business (and defeat the huns)

[Belhalla]

Si. I think we've finally reached a point where these term limits will work. I agree.

[Hendletonia]

sure.

[Vanavoy]

I agree

[Nationalist Gold Union]

(5-[ 5 ]-1)

[Rutthenia]

Updated. I assume your votes changed?

Yeah, I now agree.

[Nationalist Gold Union]

(6-[ 4 ]-0)

The bill will now be pushed to full regional vote.

[Nationalist Gold Union]

Public Vote is now here:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=57317

[Rutthenia]

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. #10, on the reestablishment of the APSIA Military
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by Rutthenia, edited by [nation=short]%EDITOR%[/nation]
ISSUE: APSIA currently has no official or effective militarized force
Nations of APSIA,

OBSERVING the inactivity and ineffectiveness of the current APSIA Volunteer Force,

NOTICING that APSIA's community has drastically increased since the repeal of the military,

REALIZING that APSIA now has a community that is in favour of not only defensive missions concerning military operations, but offensive as well,

IMPLEMENTING reformations promised by Rutthenia that will combat the corruption, internal conflicts, and cronyism that were previously present in the military of APSIA,

BELIEVING that APSIA is a force for good and a military not only defending other regions for evil, but directly combating evil (e.g. HYDRA Command) throughout NationStates, would spread APSIA's influence and reputation as a regional power

On May 4th, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares

1. The creation of the Armed Forces of APSIA, with Nationalist Gold Union acting as the interim General,
2. The dissolution of the APSIA Volunteer Forces,
3. The implementation of anti-corruption and organisation reforms in the Armed Forces under direct command by Rutthenia,
4. The creation of regiments in the Armed Forces of APSIA,

This is, of course, a very rushed draft. If there are any suggestions, feel free to either contact me directly or on the thread. Many thanks in advance!

[Hendletonia]

I like it Rut. Could I maybe be the Colonel?

[Nationalist Gold Union]

Strongly against this.

I would not want to command a military force. The volunteer militia is all we need for now, in which we are doing a lot (and I mean a lot) of espionage within. I'm not gonna detail it. We don't need the APSIA Military again. It was bad for our region the first time, it will be worse now. We don't need to be international police.

[Walgreens]

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. #10, on the Re-establishment of the APSIA Military
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by Rutthenia, edited by Walgreens
ISSUE: APSIA currently lacks an effective militarized force
Nations of APSIA,

OBSERVING the lack of retaliatory action made by the current APSIA Volunteer Militia upon the raiding of several allied regions,

NOTING that, since the repeal of the military, APSIA has drastically increased in size,

UNDERSTANDING that many residents of APSIA are prepared for defensive actions, as well as offensive retaliatory strikes,

IMPLEMENTING reformations promised by Rutthenia that will combat the corruption, internal conflicts, and cronyism that were previously present in the military of APSIA,

BELIEVING that APSIA is capable of not only being a safe haven from malicious regions, but a force for good, defending other regions as well,

On May 4th, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares
The creation of the Armed Forces of APSIA, with Nationalist Gold Union acting as the interim General until one is elected by the people of APSIA,
The dissolution of the APSIA Volunteer Militia,
The implementation of anti-corruption and organization reforms in the Armed Forces under direct command of Rutthenia,
The creation of separate regiments in the Armed Forces of APSIA,

[Nationalist Gold Union]

Most of you guys were not around during the first APSIA military. I can say that it was a stain on our reputation and an embarrassment to the entire region. We must not let this happen again.

[Rutthenia]

Most of you guys were not around during the first APSIA military. I can say that it was a stain on our reputation and an embarrassment to the entire region. We must not let this happen again.

It was a failed idea at first because none of us knew how to lead any operations properly and we were only at a population of 20 nations. Considering we are at over 200 now, I believe that we would easily be able to find some nations that would willingly lead operations that have had previous experience.

[Walgreens]

It was a failed idea at first because none of us knew how to lead any operations properly and we were only at a population of 20 nations. Considering we are at over 200 now, I believe that we would easily be able to find some nations that would willingly lead operations that have had previous experience.

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[Nationalist Gold Union]

Most of you guys were not around during the first APSIA military. I can say that it was a stain on our reputation and an embarrassment to the entire region. We must not let this happen again.

It was a failed idea at first because none of us knew how to lead any operations properly and we were only at a population of 20 nations. Considering we are at over 200 now, I believe that we would easily be able to find some nations that would willingly lead operations that have had previous experience.

What difference does the amount of nations have on our military abilities? You haven't raided anybody since Jelly Bellies, what experience did you pick up since then?

The APSIA Military will result in many terrible things for this region that we do not need. We must focus on bettering our own region, not destroying others.

[Walgreens]

What difference does the amount of nations have on our military abilities? You haven't raided anybody since Jelly Bellies, what experience did you pick up since then?

The APSIA Military will result in many terrible things for this region that we do not need. We must focus on bettering our own region, not destroying others.

Destroying others? Is it murder if a cop shoots a serial killer? I think not.

Have you tried maybe looking around the region if you don't trust Rutt with the job? There are 250 of us, for Christ's sake. We can't be ignorant about this.