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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:09 am

A+ my man.
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Postby Hendletonia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:59 am

Current vote tally:

Approve: 4
Disapprove: 0
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Postby Vanavoy » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:40 am

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Postby Ramoir » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:42 am

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:
Hendletonia wrote:Kind of fixed up Walgreens' edit.
WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. 11, on The APSIA Committee of Local Recognition
Vote, proposal written by Hendletonia and edited by Walgreens, Hendletonia, and Nationalist Gold Union
ISSUE: Members of APSIA deserve to be commended or condemned for their actions
Nations of APSIA,
BELIEVING that many APSIA member nations deserve recognition or awareness for their actions,
UNDERSTANDING the importance of APSIA's democratic style,
SEEING that the World Assembly has a similar council,
On April 27th, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares
  1. The Creation of the Committee of Local Recognition (CLR)
  2. Members of The APSIA Committee of Local Recognition will be elected by the nations of APSIA, the President of the CLR will be decided by the APSIA Council

  3. The members of the CLR will then decide on who should be commended or possibly condemned, though non-CLR APSIA nations can propose a commendation/condemnation
  4. Condemnations serve only to warn nations of those who do not favor the ideas of most APSIA citizens
  5. Commendations allow for those nations that strive to make APSIA better to be recognized
  6. All nations in APSIA will vote on each commendation and condemnation

  7. The Committee of Local Recognition will not have any connection to the Council of APSIA.

My changes/edits. I mainly fixed some formatting issues and whatnot. Otherwise I think it's a solid proposal.

I vote For.

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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:43 am

Hendletonia wrote:Current vote tally:

Approve: 6
Disapprove: 0
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Postby Hendletonia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:52 am

K. Let's let the people vote on it.
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:10 am

Hendletonia wrote:K. Let's let the people vote on it.

Ill schedule it for this weekend.
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Postby Walgreens » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:27 pm

So on the note of my proposal, anyone have edits (I'll be making a few in a second here), or are we putting it to a council vote?
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Postby Walgreens » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:43 pm

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. #10, on the Creation of Regional Roleplay Threads
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by Walgreens, edited by Walgreens
ISSUE: Gradual Slowdown of Regional Roleplay

Nations of APSIA,

REALIZINGING That APSIA is a roleplaying region but lacks significant involvement in both global and regional roleplay.

NOTICING That may of our nations do not actively engage in RMB discussion and that said discussion is limited.

UNDERSTANDING that in-character roleplay threads would lead to an increase in active nations, as well as general regional activity.

NOTING That many members of APSIA have lost interest in previous IC threads due to lack of new content.

On April 27th, 2016 the Council of APSIA hereby declares
  1. The creation of in character role-play threads restricted to only the people of APSIA which will be organized by Walgreens.
  2. Participation is not at all mandatory, but greatly encouraged.
  3. New threads will be created monthly, derived from suggestions submitted and voted on by APSIAns, allowing people to take part in the RPs they wish to with their region-mates.
  4. Said threads will utilize our currently pointless regional map, allowing nations to come more into contact with their regional neighbors.
  5. These threads will range from any time period, however not too far into future, keeping to the theme of APSIA.
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:23 pm

Yes, it can be up to vote.

I am against this proposal because it's useless. All it is doing is giving the Council more labor and things to do that the people would do a better job at managing. Why do we need an amendment for this? If you really want more RP threads, Walgreens, how about you create one? It's a nay for me.
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Postby Walgreens » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:34 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:Yes, it can be up to vote.

I am against this proposal because it's useless. All it is doing is giving the Council more labor and things to do that the people would do a better job at managing. Why do we need an amendment for this? If you really want more RP threads, Walgreens, how about you create one? It's a nay for me.

As I explained to Noxtrem, I will be the one handling any and all work related to this, I enjoy it personally. Point is, a system like this isn't for the council, it's to create an organized system for the people to get the RP threads they want at reasonable times.
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:57 pm

Walgreens wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:Yes, it can be up to vote.

I am against this proposal because it's useless. All it is doing is giving the Council more labor and things to do that the people would do a better job at managing. Why do we need an amendment for this? If you really want more RP threads, Walgreens, how about you create one? It's a nay for me.

Point is, a system like this isn't for the council

Then why is this an amendment? Nobody is stopping you from creating RP threads. Hell, if you make any, I'll throw them in the master dispatch for you. But we don't need an amendment to allow you to do something you can already do.
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Postby Belhalla » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:37 am

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:
Walgreens wrote:Point is, a system like this isn't for the council

Then why is this an amendment? Nobody is stopping you from creating RP threads. Hell, if you make any, I'll throw them in the master dispatch for you. But we don't need an amendment to allow you to do something you can already do.

Exactly this. Roleplaying is not the only thing to APSIA, and not everyone comes here to roleplay, therefore if we make roleplaying mandatory, it will detract from the experience of living in APSIA. I'm sorry, no matter which way you word it, this proposal simply does not work.
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Postby Walgreens » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:09 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:Then why is this an amendment? Nobody is stopping you from creating RP threads. Hell, if you make any, I'll throw them in the master dispatch for you. But we don't need an amendment to allow you to do something you can already do.

Like I said, this will be entirely on my hands, zero work for you folks. However, if it's not brought up and made an actual thing, I'm not going to get the submissions I need. Not everyone looks in the master dispatch, most of the views come from like 15 of us. There's literally zero reason for you guys to be against this, it's not like it's more work for you :blink: .
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:32 pm

Walgreens wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:Then why is this an amendment? Nobody is stopping you from creating RP threads. Hell, if you make any, I'll throw them in the master dispatch for you. But we don't need an amendment to allow you to do something you can already do.

Like I said, this will be entirely on my hands, zero work for you folks. However, if it's not brought up and made an actual thing, I'm not going to get the submissions I need. Not everyone looks in the master dispatch, most of the views come from like 15 of us. There's literally zero reason for you guys to be against this, it's not like it's more work for you :blink: .

The only reason I'm against this is because it's a useless amendment. Again, we don't need an amendment for this. Just make RP threads if you want them so badly.
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Postby Walgreens » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:54 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:The only reason I'm against this is because it's a useless amendment. Again, we don't need an amendment for this. Just make RP threads if you want them so badly.


Like I said:
Walgreens wrote:However, if it's not brought up and made an actual thing, I'm not going to get the submissions I need.

Walgreens wrote:it's to create an organized system for the people to get the RP threads they want at reasonable times.

Sure, I can make a bunch of threads and hope one goes somewhere, but this brings the publicity as well as the region interaction needed in order for those RPs to be successful, it's really that simple.
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:36 pm

Walgreens wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:The only reason I'm against this is because it's a useless amendment. Again, we don't need an amendment for this. Just make RP threads if you want them so badly.


Like I said:
Walgreens wrote:However, if it's not brought up and made an actual thing, I'm not going to get the submissions I need.

Walgreens wrote:it's to create an organized system for the people to get the RP threads they want at reasonable times.

Sure, I can make a bunch of threads and hope one goes somewhere, but this brings the publicity as well as the region interaction needed in order for those RPs to be successful, it's really that simple.

How so? Why have an amendment when, say, you can just post your thread in the RMB and I can tg it to everybody in the region?
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Postby Walgreens » Sun May 01, 2016 1:54 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:How so? Why have an amendment when, say, you can just post your thread in the RMB and I can tg it to everybody in the region?

I really don't see why you're so against this, it's not like it'll be a tremendous amount of work for you, or anyone really. This allows for a legitimate system for setting up RPs, completely unlike something Jerry-rigged like that. We already have a section in the Master Dispatch for it, why not add this and make it an amendment, it's a big modifier to regional RP.
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Sun May 01, 2016 2:52 pm

Walgreens wrote:
Nationalist Gold Union wrote:How so? Why have an amendment when, say, you can just post your thread in the RMB and I can tg it to everybody in the region?

I really don't see why you're so against this, it's not like it'll be a tremendous amount of work for you, or anyone really. This allows for a legitimate system for setting up RPs, completely unlike something Jerry-rigged like that. We already have a section in the Master Dispatch for it, why not add this and make it an amendment, it's a big modifier to regional RP.

I'm against it because it's silly to have an amendment for it. Again, nothing is stopping anyone from creating RP threads. In fact, people already can but they don't. I have no idea why making an amendment would change anything.
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Postby Walgreens » Sun May 01, 2016 4:20 pm

Nationalist Gold Union wrote:I'm against it because it's silly to have an amendment for it. Again, nothing is stopping anyone from creating RP threads. In fact, people already can but they don't. I have no idea why making an amendment would change anything.

Have you been reading what I'm saying?
Walgreens wrote:it's to create an organized system for the people to get the RP threads they want at reasonable times.

Walgreens wrote:However, if it's not brought up and made an actual thing, I'm not going to get the submissions I need.

Walgreens wrote:This allows for a legitimate system for setting up RPs, completely unlike something Jerry-rigged like that.

Walgreens wrote:this brings the publicity as well as the region interaction needed in order for those RPs to be successful
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Postby Hendletonia » Sun May 01, 2016 5:56 pm

...now we have to vote on President of the CLR...I personally support myself...hehe...
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Postby Nationalist Gold Union » Sun May 01, 2016 5:58 pm

Amendment 9 has been passed.
Hendletonia wrote:...now we have to vote on President of the CLR...I personally support myself...hehe...

I support you as well.

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Postby Hendletonia » Sun May 01, 2016 6:00 pm

2 votes for me rn...
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Postby Walgreens » Sun May 01, 2016 7:01 pm

I'm going to vote nay on that bidniss. Uhmericah.
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Postby Walgreens » Sun May 01, 2016 8:10 pm

WARNING: THIS IS A DRAFT. Amendment no. #10, on Terms for the Council
[url=%POLLURL%]Vote[/url], proposal written by [nation=short]Uhmericah[/nation]
ISSUE: There are no terms in the Council.
Nations of APSIA,Concerned at the lack of terms for members of the Council

Noting that this is an undemocratic system as the people are unable to remove a member of the Council once the member has been elected.

Further Noting that a Councillor may abuse his or her power or make decisions that harm the people and there is nothing the people can do about this.

Worried that as APSIA grows and the maximum number of regional officers is reached, there will be no more opportunities for residents to run as Councillor turning APSIA into a dictatorship,

Even more worried that this won't get passed since I'm a crappy writer,

And seriously guys it's pretty obvious that this is an unfair and dictatorey way to do run a government so please vote for it (also please remove those last two parts when you edit it),

On May 1st, 2016, the Council of APSIA hereby declares
  1. After being elected a Councillor or Elder Councillor shall remain in office for four months and then shall be dissmissed,
  2. After being elected the Vice President shall remain in office for eight months and then shall be dissmissed,
  3. While a member of the Council is in office the people of APSIA may petition to impeach any member of the Council who they think too be abusing their power or making desicsions that hurt the prosperity of APSIA. Two thirds of the public must agree for this to be carried out.
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