[PASSED] Repeal "Law Enforcement Education"

[Yoite]

While scribbling the recipe on a legal pad, "Uhhh... this repeal has the support of Yoite."

[The Sotoan Union]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

[Cybraxia]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

"The greatest bit about the bill, in my and others opinion. If I remember correctly, it's the recipe to make a drink called a... 'Orange Julius'?"

[Excidium Planetis]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

"It's a long story."

[The Sotoan Union]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

"The greatest bit about the bill, in my and others opinion. If I remember correctly, it's the recipe to make a drink called a... 'Orange Julius'?"

Is it staying in there?

[Cybraxia]

"The greatest bit about the bill, in my and others opinion. If I remember correctly, it's the recipe to make a drink called a... 'Orange Julius'?"

Is it staying in there?

"I certainly hope so. And again, as do others."

[Wrapper]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

OOC: blind support.

Yup.... Didn't even bother reading past the title. This could be the recipe for an Orange Julius and as far as I am concerned I will support it, because you know the lemmings are going to pass that bill in a land-fucking-slide.

[The Sotoan Union]

I support this. But what's with that bit in the middle about the food?

Yup.... Didn't even bother reading past the title. This could be the recipe for an Orange Julius and as far as I am concerned I will support it, because you know the lemmings are going to pass that bill in a land-fucking-slide.

So you're proving a point by indulging in the activity you hate the World Assembly's acceptance of?

[Excidium Planetis]

So you're proving a point by indulging in the activity you hate the World Assembly's acceptance of?

"No. I am laughing at a little joke: most people who vote on WA resolutions don't get as far as you do in reading them. Why not through in some random argument about the lack of Orange Julius, since most voters won't read it anyways?

"It is also a joke about the nations offering blind support because it repeals a resolution they don't like. They don't care that only most of the arguments are reasonable and one is sort of ridiculous, all they want is for a bad resolution to be repealed.

"Come on, you must admit it is quite amusing."

[The Sotoan Union]

So you're proving a point by indulging in the activity you hate the World Assembly's acceptance of?

"No. I am laughing at a little joke: most people who vote on WA resolutions don't get as far as you do in reading them. Why not through in some random argument about the lack of Orange Julius, since most voters won't read it anyways?

"It is also a joke about the nations offering blind support because it repeals a resolution they don't like. They don't care that only most of the arguments are reasonable and one is sort of ridiculous, all they want is for a bad resolution to be repealed.

"Come on, you must admit it is quite amusing."

I hate to be that guy who takes what I do understand is a joke too seriously but if you're making fun of people who pass flawed resolutions that they didn't properly read by putting in unrelated content on purpose, you're kind of contributing to this World Assembly behavior. Obviously not as the voter, but as the person contributing flaws.

It's like to the people who crap on Wikipedia articles to prove their own beliefs about how flawed the articles are.

[Excidium Planetis]

"No. I am laughing at a little joke: most people who vote on WA resolutions don't get as far as you do in reading them. Why not through in some random argument about the lack of Orange Julius, since most voters won't read it anyways?

"It is also a joke about the nations offering blind support because it repeals a resolution they don't like. They don't care that only most of the arguments are reasonable and one is sort of ridiculous, all they want is for a bad resolution to be repealed.

"Come on, you must admit it is quite amusing."

I hate to be that guy who takes what I do understand is a joke too seriously but if you're making fun of people who pass flawed resolutions that they didn't properly read by putting in unrelated content on purpose, you're kind of contributing to this World Assembly behavior. Obviously not as the voter, but as the person contributing flaws.

"How am I contributing to people not reading resolutions? If my repeal fails at vote because," Schultz fakes a gasp, "people actually read the repeal and thought it was unprofessional, it would make my year."

It's like to the people who crap on Wikipedia articles to prove their own beliefs about how flawed the articles are.

"The text of the resolutions, and what is written in them, is not what I am mocking. I am mocking the habit of not reading before voting. I do not see how I contribute to that habit in any way, as I encourage WA members to read all proposals and resolutions at vote."

[The Sotoan Union]

I hate to be that guy who takes what I do understand is a joke too seriously but if you're making fun of people who pass flawed resolutions that they didn't properly read by putting in unrelated content on purpose, you're kind of contributing to this World Assembly behavior. Obviously not as the voter, but as the person contributing flaws.

"How am I contributing to people not reading resolutions? If my repeal fails at vote because," Schultz fakes a gasp, "people actually read the repeal and thought it was unprofessional, it would make my year."

It's like to the people who crap on Wikipedia articles to prove their own beliefs about how flawed the articles are.

"The text of the resolutions, and what is written in them, is not what I am mocking. I am mocking the habit of not reading before voting. I do not see how I contribute to that habit in any way, as I encourage WA members to read all proposals and resolutions at vote."

Why is not reading a resolution bad? Because it lets flaws through? Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

[Separatist Peoples]

Why is not reading a resolution bad? Because it lets flaws through? Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

"This confuses fault in its criticism. If the author leaves a flaw in a resolution, it is still the fault of the voters for passing it, regardless of the author's intention. The author still bears the fault of creating a deliberately flawed proposal, but the fault of voting it in is always with the voter base."

[The Sotoan Union]

Why is not reading a resolution bad? Because it lets flaws through? Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

"This confuses fault in its criticism. If the author leaves a flaw in a resolution, it is still the fault of the voters for passing it, regardless of the author's intention. The author still bears the fault of creating a deliberately flawed proposal, but the fault of voting it in is always with the voter base."

Of course it is. It would also be in the author here. I'm not sure we're disagreeing?

[Sciongrad]

Why is not reading a resolution bad? Because it lets flaws through? Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

"This confuses fault in its criticism. If the author leaves a flaw in a resolution, it is still the fault of the voters for passing it, regardless of the author's intention. The author still bears the fault of creating a deliberately flawed proposal, but the fault of voting it in is always with the voter base."

"I agree. If ms. Schultz is aware that the voters will not read the resolution (I actually do not think this is true and would not be surprised if this repeal fails), and she proceeds with the joke anyway, then she is equally culpable. If we assume the voters refusing to read a resolution is a constant, then ms. Schultz is the only one with any real agency in this situation."

[Excidium Planetis]

Why is not reading a resolution bad?

"Is this really a question? How is one supposed to make an informed decision unless one reads the resolution? Can you not see how ignorance is bad?"

Because it lets flaws through?

"Sometimes, yes. But it also lets things that are not flaws, like intentional attempts to ban preemptive strikes for example, through, in ignorance. Ignorance is the bad thing, not the flaws."

Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

"I do not consider it a flaw. It is not a flaw in the repeal. Please explain how it is a flaw, which is a 'fault or imperfection'. I think it makes the repeal perfect, quite frankly."

[The Sotoan Union]

Why is not reading a resolution bad?

"Is this really a question? How is one supposed to make an informed decision unless one reads the resolution? Can you not see how ignorance is bad?"

Because it lets flaws through?

"Sometimes, yes. But it also lets things that are not flaws, like intentional attempts to ban preemptive strikes for example, through, in ignorance. Ignorance is the bad thing, not the flaws."

Isn't that what this is doing? Letting a flaw, albeit one in jest, through?

"I do not consider it a flaw. It is not a flaw in the repeal. Please explain how it is a flaw, which is a 'fault or imperfection'. I think it makes the repeal perfect, quite frankly."

First the first question lead into the other point so I wasn't legitimately wondering why not reading is bad.

Second, though again I know it's a joke, it contributes diddly to the intended purpose behind the repeal or the repeal itself and kind of undermines said purpose as a result of awkwardly sticking out. I think that falls under flaw.

[Albithica]

If this resolution reaches quorum and passes, it will finally plainly reveal the fact that the majority of WA delegates and members really do not read resolutions. The World Assembly's history is simply one of a constant cycle of the passage of resolutions, followed by the almost immediate repeal in a borderline neurotic manner. If member nations would read these resolutions, and make informed voting decisions, the number of repeals that occur would drop significantly.

[Excidium Planetis]

If this resolution reaches quorum and passes, it will finally plainly reveal the fact that the majority of WA delegates and members really do not read resolutions.

"No, it will reveal that voters echo the opinions expressed by the author of the target resolution, who has informed me that Law Enforcement Education is in no way beneficial."

Schultz displays photocopies of a screenshot of her datatab, which reveals an interstelegram sent to her by the representative of the target's author.

The World Assembly's history is simply one of a constant cycle of the passage of resolutions, followed by the almost immediate repeal in a borderline neurotic manner.

"That's a gross exaggeration, as there are over a hundred unrepealed resolutions on the books today."

If member nations would read these resolutions, and make informed voting decisions, the number of repeals that occur would drop significantly.

"Correct, if only because the repeals would not be necessary as often."

[Cybraxia]

"Well, that changes things slightly. If the author of the bill says his bill does nothing... then my determination to repeal it is doubled. Worthless bills are a stain upon the World Assembly."

[Happy People Land]

I originally thought this bill was great, I was extremely excited to contribute to the international community, but not sure how. After weeks of criticism and swallowing my pride... anyway I understand the concerns and it seems your right. I just hope that I can redeem myself in later proposals. I didn't take down my proposal because I wanted the WA community to decide, however I have now realized that lemmings may play to large a role in the voting process, and that may account for the support of my proposal.

[Bananaistan]

"Wtf is this demeaning shit? The bloody lunatics have taken over the asylum again.

"Utterly opposed."

- Mrs Ambassador Mary CP Doe

[Excidium Planetis]

"Wtf is this demeaning shit? The bloody lunatics have taken over the asylum again.

"Utterly opposed."

- Mrs Ambassador Mary CP Doe

"Demeaning s***? Are you saying you refuse to support a repeal that even the target's author supported?"

[Bananaistan]

"Demeaning s***? Are you saying you refuse to support a repeal that even the target's author supported?"

"I refuse to support a repeal with nonsense arguments. This crap with recipes will stand forever in the text of resolutions passed by this august assembly. It is demeaning to the serious work of delegations who are making genuine efforts to improve the world through international law and it is demeaning to the thousands of member nations who take their responsibilities seriously. You are making a joke of the WA and Bananaistan refuses to play along."

- Mrs Ambassador Mary CP Doe

[Excidium Planetis]

"I refuse to support a repeal with nonsense arguments.

"The arguments are not nonsense. GA#365 does indeed force funding on nations without private police forces, and it does fail to require the creation of the education programs to be funded. It is also not an international issue."

"This crap with recipes will stand forever in the text of resolutions passed by this august assembly. It is demeaning to the serious work of delegations who are making genuine efforts to improve the world through international law and it is demeaning to the thousands of member nations who take their responsibilities seriously. You are making a joke of the WA and Bananaistan refuses to play along."

- Mrs Ambassador Mary CP Doe

"I refuse to believe any organization referred to as 'the Festering Snakepit' and known for, among many other things, defining debris as debris, complaining about the constant use of the word 'cyber' and mandating that nations actually read what they vote on, is not already a joke.

"Furthermore, I do take my responsibilities seriously and I am working to improve the world: By repealing this resolution, which stands in the way of meaningful progress!"