Discourse and Discord [FT, Closed, OOC Thread]

[Serukta Sehkrisaal]

I concur with the Gata'ja. My explanation to Red Talon's query has been provided, and the Original Poster of a thread does not need to justify his desire to remove a player (or his/her posts) from a thread. As quoted in the moderation report concerning this very issue (emphasis my own) - the thread which, I will add, already includes PF's reasoning for the removal of the posts:

It's your thread, and you're perfectly entitled to ask for that post to be removed, though I welcome the additional context you provided.

At this point, this drama is potentially directly inhibiting the growth of a thread and is doing nothing to the service of its plot.

[Deminis]

While it is true that an OP is not required to Give reason for deleting a post and/or removing a poster. Neglecting to gave said reason can severally add to drama, resulting in an appearance of a forced story role play. Should such an image be displayed it would result in an instant loss of support from major parties. Serving to only regress into a chaotic from of self annihilation...

[Transnapastain]

While it is true that an OP is not required to Give reason for deleting a post and/or removing a poster. Neglecting to gave said reason can severally add to drama, resulting in an appearance of a forced story role play. Should such an image be displayed it would result in an instant loss of support from major parties. Serving to only regress into a chaotic from of self annihilation...

Having now seen The Federal Union (Terran Alliance) side of this story about the deleted post. I would now like to hear the story from the OP and the Defending parties please? I believe i may be considered a neutral party at this time. I request that Both OP and Defending Parties each telegraphing me ONCE so that i might be able to compare stories and give my own ideas on possible misunderstandings.

Do you know what else adds needless drama? Using an OOC thread to stir up trouble when a player is removed from an RP/thread by the OP. Perseid Federation asked that UTA no longer post in the IC thread, by extension that would include the OOC thread for the aforementioned RP. It is inadvisable to lodge what would be considered a "third party appeal" on behalf of the removed player.

It may be your opinion that removing a player from a thread for "no reason" will "result in an instant loss of support from major parties. Serving to only regress into a chaotic from of self annihilation" and it may even be thats true. It also doesn't matter. OP says go, player goes. Other players do not post on their behalf or at their behest.

The proper venue for these types of questions and appeals would be via TG.

Thank you and carry on.

[Deminis]

While it is true that an OP is not required to Give reason for deleting a post and/or removing a poster. Neglecting to gave said reason can severally add to drama, resulting in an appearance of a forced story role play. Should such an image be displayed it would result in an instant loss of support from major parties. Serving to only regress into a chaotic from of self annihilation...

Having now seen The Federal Union (Terran Alliance) side of this story about the deleted post. I would now like to hear the story from the OP and the Defending parties please? I believe i may be considered a neutral party at this time. I request that Both OP and Defending Parties each telegraphing me ONCE so that i might be able to compare stories and give my own ideas on possible misunderstandings.

Do you know what else adds needless drama? Using an OOC thread to stir up trouble when a player is removed from an RP/thread by the OP. Perseid Federation asked that UTA no longer post in the IC thread, by extension that would include the OOC thread for the aforementioned RP. It is inadvisable to lodge what would be considered a "third party appeal" on behalf of the removed player.

It may be your opinion that removing a player from a thread for "no reason" will "result in an instant loss of support from major parties. Serving to only regress into a chaotic from of self annihilation" and it may even be thats true. It also doesn't matter. OP says go, player goes. Other players do not post on their behalf or at their behest.

The proper venue for these types of questions and appeals would be via TG.

Thank you and carry on.

As a member of the IC, and a concerned person (With viable reason) I have a right to make my worries displayed for the op to see that he might attempt to better his roleplay. I Personally see that an amount of force has been exerted by the OP to inhibit a main member of the RP, I am a mere secondary member and thus i know understand that this same force including more can be exerted on me.

This means that i am No longer willing to participate in a roleplay that will result in my inability to play my character as he would be played. Otherwise known as Restrictive Control, Story Modding, Or (in laymans terms) Being an "Asshole". Not my wording of course. In general since the OP is using his force to control the story line excessively, no one in this role play has any self control save the OP, whom also controls all other players... This being said, i would like to now submit my professional Resignation from this Playroom.

[The United Dominion]

Hey Perseid,

It looks like some spaces have opened up, and I'd like to fill one. My nation would definitely have some stock in the proceedings due to the involved parties and general location of the issue. I was going to wait until I saw you on #legion but timing doesn't seem to be working out for us there. Guess I could have just TGed you, but posting publicly what could be put privately seems to be en vogue at the moment. Also, Kyru was hounding me to contact you anyway, so now he knows I did.

Thanks! Talk to you soon, I hope.

This means that i am No longer willing to participate in a roleplay that will result in my inability to play my character as he would be played. Otherwise known as Restrictive Control, Story Modding, Or (in laymans terms) Being an "Asshole". Not my wording of course. In general since the OP is using his force to control the story line excessively, no one in this role play has any self control save the OP, whom also controls all other players... This being said, i would like to now submit my professional Resignation from this Playroom.

Can we please not flame each other? Saying "not my wording" doesn't help when it literally what you just typed.

[Reploid Productions]

As a member of the IC, and a concerned person (With viable reason) I have a right to make my worries displayed for the op to see that he might attempt to better his roleplay. I Personally see that an amount of force has been exerted by the OP to inhibit a main member of the RP, I am a mere secondary member and thus i know understand that this same force including more can be exerted on me.

This means that i am No longer willing to participate in a roleplay that will result in my inability to play my character as he would be played. Otherwise known as Restrictive Control, Story Modding, Or (in laymans terms) Being an "Asshole". Not my wording of course. In general since the OP is using his force to control the story line excessively, no one in this role play has any self control save the OP, whom also controls all other players... This being said, i would like to now submit my professional Resignation from this Playroom.

So... basically the OP is doing precisely what he is allowed to do, in other words. OP = Game master, dungeon master, GOD OF THE THREAD. The OP is allowed to tell anyone, for any reason or no reason at all that they are no longer allowed to participate in the OP's thread. As long as their thread follows the site rules, they can do whatever they want in it. If you wish to leave the RP in protest of the OP's choice, that is fine, that's your decision.

Calling the OP an asshole for exercising his rights as the thread OP, however, nets you a *** Warning for flaming. *** Claiming it's "not your wording" doesn't change the fact it's a roundabout flame.


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[Serukta Sehkrisaal]

Hey Perseid,

It looks like some spaces have opened up, and I'd like to fill one. My nation would definitely have some stock in the proceedings due to the involved parties and general location of the issue. I was going to wait until I saw you on #legion but timing doesn't seem to be working out for us there. Guess I could have just TGed you, but posting publicly what could be put privately seems to be en vogue at the moment. Also, Kyru was hounding me to contact you anyway, so now he knows I did.

Thanks! Talk to you soon, I hope.

*The sharktopus squeezes the spehss newt tight!*

Of course I hounded my ixee brethren; I have to to keep the delegates from the FRFS from eating all the hors d'oeuvres! (FRFS, we ♥ you; space!Greek food just, y'know, is delicious. )

[Federal Republic of Free States]

If you aliens are going to continue to impead our progress to glorious punch bowl, we will begin to develop a highly damaging complex and our adolescent years in the galaxy will be marked with inferiority and sadness.

[The Uthani Imperium]

If you aliens are going to continue to impead our progress to glorious punch bowl, we will begin to develop a highly damaging complex and our adolescent years in the galaxy will be marked with inferiority and sadness.

We were rather clear when this whole thing started. The punch bowl, belongs to us. Do we actually want to drink the punch? No. But that doesn't mean you can drink it. Just because we're literally going to stand in a circle around it and maybe periodically dump some of it on the floor, doesn't mean you're entitled to our goddamn punch.

Humans go home, the punch belongs to the brethren xeno.

[Red Talons]

If you aliens are going to continue to impead our progress to glorious punch bowl, we will begin to develop a highly damaging complex and our adolescent years in the galaxy will be marked with inferiority and sadness.

We were rather clear when this whole thing started. The punch bowl, belongs to us. Do we actually want to drink the punch? No. But that doesn't mean you can drink it. Just because we're literally going to stand in a circle around it and maybe periodically dump some of it on the floor, doesn't mean you're entitled to our goddamn punch.

Humans go home, the punch belongs to the brethren xeno.

For a moment there I was going to be mad, but I'm alright with those terms. We'll trade access to our assorted meat platter for access to your punch.

[The Gataja]

*in response, the Gata'ja flips the table and stares at you as the punch floods out over the floor.*

[Lubyak]

So long as the Habsburgs get to keep the wine fountain, all is well.

[Neornith]

So long as the Habsburgs get to keep the wine fountain, all is well.

They don't

[Perseid Federation]

So long as the Habsburgs get to keep the wine fountain, all is well.

You think too small. A wine waterfall. *nods*

[The Rhustarim Hegemony]

NOBODY PANIC.

The crab people are here. Thanks so much Perseid for letting me in on such late notice. ^_^

[Perseid Federation]

No problem.

Now to wait for Santh.

[Federal Republic of Free States]

And the punch bowl gets even more crowded....

[Perseid Federation]

I take it that Deminis is out of the conference, yes? If so, the Rhustarim and the Ixee may follow the Serukta in the posting order.

Sounds good?

[The Rhustarim Hegemony]

I take it that Deminis is out of the conference, yes? If so, the Rhustarim and the Ixee may follow the Serukta in the posting order.

Sounds good?

Sound perfect to me.

[The United Dominion]

I take it that Deminis is out of the conference, yes? If so, the Rhustarim and the Ixee may follow the Serukta in the posting order.

Sounds good?

Yep, sounds perfect. Put me in at the end.

[Huerdae]

I object. I'm going to invade your punch bowl and drink it at you. While glaring. See if I don't.

[The Gataja]

You can't invade all of us. D:<

[Imperial and Federal Union of States]

You can't invade all of us. D:<

This is how wars start.

So long as the Habsburgs get to keep the wine fountain, all is well.

You think too small. A wine waterfall. *nods*

Approval of Alcohol Services: +50 to R.u.B Opinion of Perseid Federation

[Federal Republic of Free States]

Little Gators v Little Humans. Finally they can see their enemy eye to eye.

[Huerdae]

You can't invade all of us. D:<

Sure can, small fry.

And no, Gata'Ja are significantly shorter than Huerdaen. There would still be stepping stools involved.