The World Assembly Strangers' Bar

[Imperium Anglorum]

As for GAR#22, while it mentions "all diplomats sent to the World Assembly shall be automatically granted diplomatic immunity", all the other bits, including the one that says anything about diplomatic immunity, keep talking about "by the nation in which they are serving", which would be WA itself, not the diplomats of the other countries. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can see the fatal flaw there.

OOC: I was going to add a section which talks about the fact that the WA is the property of all nations, in same way that the United Nations is, and therefore, every other nation must be acting as part of that property of all nations. Therefore, due to the fact that the WA is international territory, WA ambassadors cannot harm other WA ambassadors.

OOC: However it is, then the plant is violating 22 GA § 7, which requires 'PROHIBITS nations from sending diplomats with the express intent of committing crimes of espionage, sabotage, subversion, causing harm to the civilian population, and other related crimes committed outside of a diplomats duties'. The counter-argument is that the plant wasn't sent to do so by the nation. However, if the plant is a representative of the nation, then it can order itself to do so by taking that action. Furthermore, if the plant is part of a hivemind, then there is no difference between the nation and the plant, ergo, the plant must have been ordered to do so by the hivemind, which is the nation, and ergo, is in violation of § 7. And given the sneaking-up on CDSP's ambassador, it has clear intent. Oh, and assault is generally a crime.

Parsons: I have to demand that you should put the not-so-good Ambassador down!

[Wallenburg]

OOC: However it is, then the plant is violating 22 GA § 7, which requires 'PROHIBITS nations from sending diplomats with the express intent of committing crimes of espionage, sabotage, subversion, causing harm to the civilian population, and other related crimes committed outside of a diplomats duties'. The counter-argument is that the plant wasn't sent to do so by the nation. However, if the plant is a representative of the nation, then it can order itself to do so by taking that action. Furthermore, if the plant is part of a hivemind, then there is no difference between the nation and the plant, ergo, the plant must have been ordered to do so by the hivemind, which is the nation, and ergo, is in violation of § 7. And given the sneaking-up on CDSP's ambassador, it has clear intent. Oh, and assault is generally a crime.

OOC: However, your argument here is based upon the assumption that the plant is a diplomat. I would argue that it isn't. It certainly hasn't identified itself as a diplomat.

[Potted Plants United]

"PUT ME THE FUCK DOWN RIGHT NOW I HAVE RIGHTS GODDAMMIT I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CONFEDERATE DOMINION AND I WILL FUCKING DESTROY YOU GODDAMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!"

"As you just discovered, the weapons nullifiers will make potentially lethal attacks harmless," Johan Milkus explained while he read the latest messages from the hivemind on his communicator. "As you're new here, you probably don't know me or Potted Plants United, but the plant holding you is one of the multitudous selves of the hivemind that is PPU. I just work for them, I'm not a citizen or ambassador of any kind. Oh," he added with a smile at the latest message, "and the hivemind wants to ask you how you planned to claim skulls for your god's altar from creatures who have no bone structure? In any case, you will be held for the safety of yourself and those around you, until you calm down."

[Wrapper]

Ari is in CDSP now, he's been trying to get more information. I haven't heard from him though.

"It would be fantastic if he managed to get anything. Fuckin' ONI keeps blocking us at every turn."

(Ahume's tablet pings; a message comes in. He reads it, frowns, and, eyeing Donnaugh, shows it to Agent Dressler.)

Ahume: Your info is wrong. He was not in jail; he had posted bail and was in protective custody in a hotel room. Security was pretty lax -- a couple rent-a-cops outside his door, maybe another outside the hotel. This was way too easy for whomever took him, assuming that's what happened. Published reports are he skipped bail and escaped to -- of all places -- Wallenburg. That makes no sense to me. The evidence Dressler provided to the defense was swinging the case toward his favor; there was no reason for him to run. Nevertheless, find out if Helen or Gerald or that spooky ambassador dude know anything. I've been trying to talk to his lawyer, but he's been way to busy with this stuff to see a foreign diplomat. Word is there may be a surprise witness, someone on the inside turning himself in and testifying; I want to find out if that's true or not. Oh, and, be extra careful around Donnaugh. Word is, like a poisonous snake, he will bite when he's cornered. --Ari

[Excidium Planetis]

Furettium looked at the new ambassador that had addressed him, and found this conversational monologue to be more interesting than usually. Least it didn't seem out of hate this time. "Yes, I am aware of your Government. Figured our two nations were on great terms with all the connects we seem to have through various channels. Though sorry you feel that way..." He paused seeing if he would get a name.

OOC: Found it quite entertaining.

Cornelia begins sipping from her third mug, not particularly caring that she is drunk at this point. She drinks too fast, of course, and then spills half the mug over herself and the counter. "Aghk! 'At's 'ot, burn my 'ongue..."

She turns back to the Ferret Colony's Ambassador as she reaches for some napkins. "Sorry, Sorry... Um... Whatcher name agin? My name is Corneyia... Schiltz. I mean, Schultz. But I neva liked dat name anyways... You can call me Alena. 'Ts my middle name. I thinks French or sumthin... Never did good in Terran istry."

[Araraukar]

OOC: However it is, then the plant is violating 22 GA § 7, which requires 'PROHIBITS nations from sending diplomats with the express intent of committing crimes of espionage, sabotage, subversion, causing harm to the civilian population, and other related crimes committed outside of a diplomats duties'. The counter-argument is that the plant wasn't sent to do so by the nation. However, if the plant is a representative of the nation, then it can order itself to do so by taking that action. Furthermore, if the plant is part of a hivemind, then there is no difference between the nation and the plant, ergo, the plant must have been ordered to do so by the hivemind, which is the nation, and ergo, is in violation of § 7. And given the sneaking-up on CDSP's ambassador, it has clear intent. Oh, and assault is generally a crime.

OOC: However, your argument here is based upon the assumption that the plant is a diplomat. I would argue that it isn't. It certainly hasn't identified itself as a diplomat.

OOC: It's also somehow not based on the fact that CDSP has apparently knowingly sent not one but two crooked "ambassadors" to WA, one of whom set fire to their office, causing the death of one of PPU's plants, and the other of whom has tried threatening what he believed was ambassadorial staff of another WA nation, and implied his nation's willingness to contribute to genocide (via tampered humanitarian aid), and his personal willingness to breaking the laws of his own country.

Additionally, the hivemind is also keeping Donnaugh safe from what it perceives as very real threat to his well-being; Janis Leveret. It knows she won't touch him now.

Parsons: I have to demand that you should put the not-so-good Ambassador down!

"Ha! Don't listen to it, greenery!" Janis called and then stalked over to where Parsons was sitting. "And you, I thought you were one of the good guys. What you taking the slimeball's side now for?" she demanded.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: It's also somehow not based on the fact that CDSP has apparently knowingly sent not one but two crooked "ambassadors" to WA, one of whom set fire to their office, causing the death of one of PPU's plants, and the other of whom has tried threatening what he believed was ambassadorial staff of another WA nation, and implied his nation's willingness to contribute to genocide (via tampered humanitarian aid), and his personal willingness to breaking the laws of his own country.

Additionally, the hivemind is also keeping Donnaugh safe from what it perceives as very real threat to his well-being; Janis Leveret. It knows she won't touch him now.[/size] [
OOC: The CDSP doesn't know either of them were crooked. The CDSP takes a very, very dim view of corruptions among officials. Even though my nation dislikes the World Assembly, it's a strict adherent to the rules, and if Donnaugh and Lupinski were found out through official CDSP channels, the government would drop the hammer of indiscriminate justice down on their asses so hard the ground would shake for a week.

[Araraukar]

OOC: The CDSP doesn't know either of them were crooked.

OOC: That's why I said "apparently knowingly". I didn't mean to imply that CDSP would seriously send war criminals to act as WA ambassadors, or that your nation in any way condoned any of their underhanded actions. My apologies if it came out like that.

But as always, Donnaugh is your character. If you no longer want me to proceed with the plan, throw me a TG.

2nd EDIT: Quote code is messed up in your previous post.

[Separatist Peoples]

"It would be fantastic if he managed to get anything. Fuckin' ONI keeps blocking us at every turn."

(Ahume's tablet pings; a message comes in. He reads it, frowns, and, eyeing Donnaugh, shows it to Agent Dressler.)

Ahume: Your info is wrong. He was not in jail; he had posted bail and was in protective custody in a hotel room. Security was pretty lax -- a couple rent-a-cops outside his door, maybe another outside the hotel. This was way too easy for whomever took him, assuming that's what happened. Published reports are he skipped bail and escaped to -- of all places -- Wallenburg. That makes no sense to me. The evidence Dressler provided to the defense was swinging the case toward his favor; there was no reason for him to run. Nevertheless, find out if Helen or Gerald or that spooky ambassador dude know anything. I've been trying to talk to his lawyer, but he's been way to busy with this stuff to see a foreign diplomat. Word is there may be a surprise witness, someone on the inside turning himself in and testifying; I want to find out if that's true or not. Oh, and, be extra careful around Donnaugh. Word is, like a poisonous snake, he will bite when he's cornered. --Ari

Dressler nods. "That tracks a lot better. I told you ONI wasn't cooperating. Somebody must have called in a lot of favors for me to get that poor a report. And Ari has it right about Donnaugh. So what the hell is his next move? Do we have any guesses on that?"

[The Nox]

A young-looking lady, dressed in an earth-colored robe with live vines growing on it, colored twigs and other greenery in her hair, materializes at the center of the bar. She looks around and casually nods toward Wad Ahume, who nods back at her. She then takes a seat in a booth, and begins some light meditation.

[Whovian Tardisia]

The whole conundrum seemed bizarre to Pink. Wallenburgian rebels kidnapping a foreign diplomat to which they seemingly have no connection, Donnaugh ordering all of Ben's belongings burnt, CDSP intelligence lying to one of their own, three WA Ambassadors with their positions threatened, one of which from a country almost completely non-involved. Nothing seemed to piece together. There was only one link in all of this, one thing the rebels couldn't possibly know... then a snippet of a quote from a detective show he used to watch came into his head.

Follow the money.

"Agent Dressler, the smuggled weapons. Who bought them?"

[Ferret Civilization]

Cornelia begins sipping from her third mug, not particularly caring that she is drunk at this point. She drinks too fast, of course, and then spills half the mug over herself and the counter. "Aghk! 'At's 'ot, burn my 'ongue..."

She turns back to the Ferret Colony's Ambassador as she reaches for some napkins. "Sorry, Sorry... Um... Whatcher name agin? My name is Corneyia... Schiltz. I mean, Schultz. But I neva liked dat name anyways... You can call me Alena. 'Ts my middle name. I thinks French or sumthin... Never did good in Terran istry."

"Name is Furettium, nice to meet you Alena." He looked at her, after drinking whatever she was it was intoxicating. "Is there a reason you are doing this to yourself now of all times?"

[Separatist Peoples]

The whole conundrum seemed bizarre to Pink. Wallenburgian rebels kidnapping a foreign diplomat to which they seemingly have no connection, Donnaugh ordering all of Ben's belongings burnt, CDSP intelligence lying to one of their own, three WA Ambassadors with their positions threatened, one of which from a country almost completely non-involved. Nothing seemed to piece together. There was only one link in all of this, one thing the rebels couldn't possibly know... then a snippet of a quote from a detective show he used to watch came into his head.

Follow the money.

"Agent Dressler, the smuggled weapons. Who bought them?"

"Who didn't? We've found weapons in the hands of Bigtopians, Marche Noirians, Shining Palm terrorists, and even small arms in some of the small pirate operations working out of Bigtopian territory. We're almost positive weapons were sold to the Tollanans, and that's just what we know about. Its possible weapons were sold to the Wallenburgians. Its possible that they were sold to Sharovans or even Kernan ogres, but that's just speculation. As for members of the World Assembly, the Wads and the Tollanans are the only ones who we know for sure have been involved."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: I have to demand that you should put the not-so-good Ambassador down!

"Ha! Don't listen to it, greenery!" Janis called and then stalked over to where Parsons was sitting. "And you, I thought you were one of the good guys. What you taking the slimeball's side now for?" she demanded.

Parsons: The Democratic Empire will always stand in the interest of law! As I've said before, I hate separatists of every type. They're all traitors from whatever nation they rebelled from. But this is a matter of principles. The title and office of Ambassador cannot be infringed.

[Wallenburg]

One of Neville's staff taps Helen on the shoulder and informs her that her offices have telephoned for her. Trevanyika leaves the group of ambassadors, walks to the bar phone, and holds it to her ear.

"Yes, Martha?"

There is a short pause. Then Helen stutters over a laugh and leans against the wall. She keeps listening and her shocked smile begins to fade. "No, no. They can't. No, you must be wrong, I--" She looks over at Dressler, her image blurring behind a veil of welling tears. Choking on her words, Helen gasps, "I don't have that kind of--money. I can't get that. Not even if I asked--everyone I knew."

She presses her head against the wall and lets the tears fall onto the floor, breathing laboriously to control her speech.

"I--we need to figure something out. They're watching me? Well screw them. We'll figure something out, by Notch's sword!"

She sighs and wipes at her eyes. "Yes, Martha, I am. Who wouldn't under these circumstances? I think a little emotion makes perfect sense right now. I'm coming over there. Well postpone my damned opinion, this is important!" Thrusting the phone back into its holster, she quickly makes her way to the exit.

[Wrapper]

As for members of the World Assembly, the Wads and the Tollanans are the only ones who we know for sure have been involved."

(Ahume raises an eyebrow and speaks very carefully.)

Agent Dressler. Kay was a Tollan, not a Wad. She forfeited her citizenship. I'm sure no offense was meant, but please, be more careful what you say next time. Excuse me, please.

(He runs after Helen out of the bar.)

[Araraukar]

Parsons: The Democratic Empire will always stand in the interest of law! As I've said before, I hate separatists of every type. They're all traitors from whatever nation they rebelled from. But this is a matter of principles. The title and office of Ambassador cannot be infringed.

"Is he an ambassador, though?" Janis asked with a frown. "I've never heard him refer to himself as that, just his military titles. And in any case," she added with a nearly predatory grin, "I wish the plant set him down and that he took a swing at it. Those things," she pointed at the speaker plant, "are descendants from the one that ate one of my aides all those years ago. They have to have some carnivorous instincts¹ left!"

OOC: Janis has good reason to think so¹, because that was basically the excuse the hivemind used to keep her from trying to slice up the speaker plants as a pre-emptive strike. That doesn't mean it was actually the fact.

[RossAbazhHabkukUkania]

"I love this place!!!" Ambassador Manin yells as he runs by.

[Wallenburg]

"I love this place!!!" Ambassador Manin yells as he runs by.

"Whoo!" Lucas shouts back at him, thumbs up in the air. He then turns around and asks for the bill.

[Whovian Tardisia]

"Who didn't? We've found weapons in the hands of Bigtopians, Marche Noirians, Shining Palm terrorists, and even small arms in some of the small pirate operations working out of Bigtopian territory. We're almost positive weapons were sold to the Tollanans, and that's just what we know about. Its possible weapons were sold to the Wallenburgians. Its possible that they were sold to Sharovans or even Kernan ogres, but that's just speculation. As for members of the World Assembly, the Wads and the Tollanans are the only ones who we know for sure have been involved."

"Possible..." Pink mulls over this. "Excuse me for a moment, Agent Dressler." He gets up from her table and sits down next to Lucas again as he exclaims:

"Whoo!"

As Neville turns to get the bill, Pink asks: "Lucas, how much do you know about the recent conflict with West Wallenburg? You're wearing a uniform, so I'm guessing you were involved somewhat."

[Herby]

"Is he an ambassador, though?" Janis asked with a frown. "I've never heard him refer to himself as that, just his military titles. And in any case," she added with a nearly predatory grin, "I wish the plant set him down and that he took a swing at it. Those things," she pointed at the speaker plant, "are descendants from the one that ate one of my aides all those years ago. They have to have some carnivorous instincts¹ left!"

Whoa whoa whoa, that thing ain't tryin' to digest him now, is it?

[Wallenburg]

"Possible..." Pink mulls over this. "Excuse me for a moment, Agent Dressler." He gets up from her table and sits down next to Lucas again as he exclaims:

"Whoo!"

As Neville turns to get the bill, Pink asks: "Lucas, how much do you know about the recent conflict with West Wallenburg? You're wearing a uniform, so I'm guessing you were involved somewhat."

"Well, I have no military experience, but from the news I have gathered that, somehow, forces on both sides of the border entered into a skirmish. The western Empire insisted that we attacked them, but their forces clearly attacked ours. When the Empire refused to repair the situation, war ensued. We invaded, obliterating their defenses, and plowing into their southern provinces. As soon as our occupation began, the Republic established supply lines for revolutionaries within the Empire. Within weeks a full-scale revolution had enveloped the Empire, West Wallenburgians alongside East Wallenburgians. In a moment of solidarity we toppled the Empire together and established a new republic. Pretty neat, huh?"

[The Imperial Frost Federation]

"Ha! Don't listen to it, greenery!" Janis called and then stalked over to where Parsons was sitting. "And you, I thought you were one of the good guys. What you taking the slimeball's side now for?" she demanded.

Parsons: The Democratic Empire will always stand in the interest of law! As I've said before, I hate separatists of every type. They're all traitors from whatever nation they rebelled from. But this is a matter of principles. The title and office of Ambassador cannot be infringed.

Albert: Except that the CDSP commander there isn't the Ambassador of the Confederate Dominion. He is actually the chargé d'affaires of his country, or an envoy that is filling in for the ambassador. Thus, he is a diplomat of lower rank than the currently missing Mr. Bell, despite having the same responsibilities. Furthermore, because the Commander is not an ambassador, the title and office of Ambassador is not infringed upon. Also the CDSP commander is in no imminent danger and is only restrained by the plant and is currently unharmed. Should Mr. Bell be reinstated as Ambassador for the Dominion, following his acquittal, then the Commander over there would be subordinate to Mr. Bell.

Meanwhile Ilya could be seen inaudibly talking to a holograph. Her countenance shifting from a grim scowl to a subtle grin as she suddenly rose and abruptly left the bar in a hurry.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Parsons: The Democratic Empire will always stand in the interest of law! As I've said before, I hate separatists of every type. They're all traitors from whatever nation they rebelled from. But this is a matter of principles. The title and office of Ambassador cannot be infringed.

Albert: Except that the CDSP commander there isn't the Ambassador of the Confederate Dominion. He is actually the chargé d'affaires of his country, or an envoy that is filling in for the ambassador. Thus, he is a diplomat of lower rank than the currently missing Mr. Bell, despite having the same responsibilities. Furthermore, because the Commander is not an ambassador, the title and office of Ambassador is not infringed upon. Also the CDSP commander is in no imminent danger and is only restrained by the plant and is currently unharmed. Should Mr. Bell be reinstated as Ambassador for the Dominion, following his acquittal, then the Commander over there would be subordinate to Mr. Bell.

OOC: Read CDSP's sig. Plus, this is more fun than adding myself to a massive pile of people who don't like Donnaugh.

Parsons: I don't care whether he is an ambassador or not. 22 GA doesn't care about ambassadors. 22 GA cares about diplomats. Unless you are to blatantly state that Ambassador Donnaugh is not a diplomat, nothing has changed. My government's loyalties lie with the government of the Confederate Dominion of Separatist Peoples. The Confederate Dominion has sent an Ambassador. I don't care who that Ambassador is. I don't care how that Ambassador acts. Per the friendship between our two peoples, I have every obligation to look out for that Ambassador's welfare and well-being.

[The Imperial Frost Federation]

Albert: Except that the CDSP commander there isn't the Ambassador of the Confederate Dominion. He is actually the chargé d'affaires of his country, or an envoy that is filling in for the ambassador. Thus, he is a diplomat of lower rank than the currently missing Mr. Bell, despite having the same responsibilities. Furthermore, because the Commander is not an ambassador, the title and office of Ambassador is not infringed upon. Also the CDSP commander is in no imminent danger and is only restrained by the plant and is currently unharmed. Should Mr. Bell be reinstated as Ambassador for the Dominion, following his acquittal, then the Commander over there would be subordinate to Mr. Bell.

OOC: Read CDSP's sig. Plus, this is more fun than adding myself to a massive pile of people who don't like Donnaugh.

Parsons: I don't care whether he is an ambassador or not. 22 GA doesn't care about ambassadors. 22 GA cares about diplomats. Unless you are to blatantly state that Ambassador Donnaugh is not a diplomat, nothing has changed. My government's loyalties lie with the government of the Confederate Dominion of Separatist Peoples. The Confederate Dominion has sent an Ambassador. I don't care who that Ambassador is. I don't care how that Ambassador acts. Per the friendship between our two peoples, I have every obligation to look out for that Ambassador's welfare and well-being.

Albert: Er... you did declare that The title and office of Ambassador cannot be infringed upon and the CDSP commander actually isn't an Ambassador but I digress. Ahem, in any case Ambassador Parsons, you are acting irrationally sir, as the CDSP commander is not in any danger despite your worries to the contrary. (Gestures to the plant thing) GA 22 prevents the physical harm of a diplomat by Member nations and in this particular instance is not applicable for 2 reasons. One, the resolution says nothing about non-harmful physical contact such as lifting up or restraining a diplomat in a non-harmful manner. Two, the plant creature has not taken any worrisome action aside from restraining Donnaugh and embarrassing him. Furthermore it is also possible that its not a member of the WA and therefore not privy or subject to the laws and customs of the World Assembly. If the plant creature did move to injure him then you have every right to be worried, as well as demand the safe release of the CDSP official. In addition, I doubt that the Imperium Anglorum demands that you coddle the chargé d'affaires of the Confederate Dominion of Separatist Peoples in the name of friendship, as I am certain that Donnaugh is capable of taking care of himself.

OOC: Yeah, it says Temporary Ambassador which is a what a chargé d'affaires is. Also Al doesn't know whether or not the PPU are a member of the WA.