Gay Marriage Forcing Traditional Couples to Divorce

[Skinhead Nation]

Don't generalize. My butt is now hurt due to your inconsideration.

I'd kiss it better but....

Better not. It's become very sensitive due to a certain motherfucker who sits on it all day.

[The Krogan]

I'd kiss it better but....

Better not. It's become very sensitive due to a certain motherfucker who sits on it all day.

Ahhhhh... I see...... I've got a cream for that.

[Farnhamia]

Better not. It's become very sensitive due to a certain motherfucker who sits on it all day.

Ahhhhh... I see...... I've got a cream for that.

Ahem ...

[The Krogan]

Ahhhhh... I see...... I've got a cream for that.

Ahem ...

sorry, I'll stop.

[Chessmistress]

This just gives private attorneys more incentive to support gay marriage loudly.

Not only does gay marriage means gay divorces, now it means more straight divorces too!

Basically, that.
That couple is just performing is the most dumb form of protest I've ever see.

[Lordareon]

I don't relay think its a issue i think people make it a problem when someone starts uses something like race sexual orientation etc to try to get special rights and privileges and marriage should be dedicated by the religions own views like Jews have there definition Christians have theirs etc it should not be in the hand of the state at all in opinion.

[Meryuma]

That doesn't seem very respectful to the sanctity of marriage of them...

[Replevion]

I don't relay think its a issue i think people make it a problem when someone starts uses something like race sexual orientation etc to try to get special rights and privileges and marriage should be dedicated by the religions own views like Jews have there definition Christians have theirs etc it should not be in the hand of the state at all in opinion.

I would love nothing more than an end to all state-granted benefits and privileges for married couples (full disclosure, I am legally married), but until that time it must be available for all couples of consenting adults otherwise it's a heinous double standard. And you should also be cognizant that some mainstream Christian denominations approve of and perform same sex marriages.

[Lordareon]

I don't relay think its a issue i think people make it a problem when someone starts uses something like race sexual orientation etc to try to get special rights and privileges and marriage should be dedicated by the religions own views like Jews have there definition Christians have theirs etc it should not be in the hand of the state at all in opinion.

I would love nothing more than an end to all state-granted benefits and privileges for married couples (full disclosure, I am legally married), but until that time it must be available for all couples of consenting adults otherwise it's a heinous double standard. And you should also be cognizant that some mainstream Christian denominations approve of and perform same sex marriages.

yes but the big three don't the Evangeline,Catholic and reformed churches all say its a big no no and they make up 89% of all Christians world wide so i say they get the biggest say in the matter.

[Replevion]

I would love nothing more than an end to all state-granted benefits and privileges for married couples (full disclosure, I am legally married), but until that time it must be available for all couples of consenting adults otherwise it's a heinous double standard. And you should also be cognizant that some mainstream Christian denominations approve of and perform same sex marriages.

yes but the big three don't the Evangeline,Catholic and reformed churches all say its a big no no and they make up 89% of all Christians world wide so i say they get the biggest say in the matter.

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

[Lordareon]

yes but the big three don't the Evangeline,Catholic and reformed churches all say its a big no no and they make up 89% of all Christians world wide so i say they get the biggest say in the matter.

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

This why we need autocracy.

[Skinhead Nation]

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

This why we need autocracy.

How about no?

[Replevion]

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

This why we need autocracy.

This is why we need educated people with a nuanced understanding of both the developmental history and contemporary framework of applied ethics in society.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

This why we need autocracy.

Well that escalated quickly.

[Dooom35796821595]

That's not how religious freedom works. If a given denomination is free to discriminate, another given denomination must be free not to discriminate. Being able to practice doctrinal differences is the whole reason denominations of any kind even exist.

This why we need autocracy.

Are you sure you don't mean theocracy instead?

[Gravlen]

... or something.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relati ... 7391644573

A CANBERRA couple has announced their intention to divorce if gay people are allowed to get married too.
Nick Jensen, who posed with his wife Sarah on the cover of the latest issue of Canberra CityNews, writes of the Christian couple’s decision to end their marriage under the headline, “Gay law change may force us to divorce”.

“My wife and I just celebrated our 10-year anniversary. But later this year, we may be getting a divorce,” he writes.

“The decision to divorce is not one we’ve taken lightly. And certainly, it’s not one that many will readily understand. And that’s because it’s not a traditional divorce.”

Mr Jensen goes on to explain the divorce plan, where the pair will continue to live together, have more kids, and refer to each other as husband and wife, but will legally end their marriage because they believe “marriage is not a human invention”.

“Our view is that marriage is a fundamental order of creation. Part of God’s human history. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman before a community in the sight of God. And marriage of any couple is important to God regardless of whether that couple recognises God’s involvement or authority in it,” he writes.

In the piece, Jensen describes the intervention of the state into marriage as “odd”, and says he and his wife refuse to recognise the government’s regulation of marriage if its definition includes same sex couples.

“If our federal parliament votes to change the timeless and organic definition of marriage later on this year, it will have moved against the fundamental and foundational building block of Australian society and, indeed, human culture everywhere,” he writes.

“Indeed, it raises a red flag when a government decides it is not content only having sovereignty over land, taxes and the military — but ‘words’ themselves.

“This is why we are willing to divorce. By changing the definition of marriage, ‘marriage’ will, in years to come, have an altogether different sense and purpose.”

The Canberra CityNews, an independent publication distributed in local businesses and published online, has faced comments from angry readers “appalled” by its decision to publish the piece.

“This is absolutely disgusting, not to mention homophobic. I can’t believe such an article was published. You should be ashamed and you definitely owe to gay community an apology,” Natalie Sarah wrote on Facebook.

“I hope this is a publicity stunt. If it isn’t then you massively shot yourself in the foot with this one Canberra CityNews,” Ross Kosub Garrett said on Facebook.

The magazine’s editor, Ian Meikle, has defended his decision to publish the story, rejecting suggestions it was supporting a “homophobic” view.

“I think this couple had an interesting angle, and that it was newsworthy,” he told news.com.au.

“The article does not reflect the opinion of the paper. We published arguments and I decided it was a serious enough argument to genuinely warrant some attention.

“It’s an unusual love story, and what would life be if people didn’t have different ways of life.”
Mr Jensen is referred to in the article as director of the Lachlan Macquarie Institute and has previously been employed by the Australian Christian Lobby.

The conservative lobby group is publicly against same sex marriage and encourages people to email MPs and senators to vocalise their objection under its “preserving marriage” campaign.

So, long story short, this guy and his wife are getting a divorce because gay people can get married. It's the equivalent of throwing your toys down in protest and running from the room crying and we have to publicize it. I'm sort of glad, however, that in America we don't have an absolute monopoly on absurdity. Practically cornered the market? Yeah, maybe - but not absolutely. The more that people start screaming and crying in protest at the government accepting equality, the more I am convinced that we're doing the right thing here (not that I haven't been convinced for a while, but damn).

Divorce all you want crazy-ass conservative straight people! It doesn't change the fundamental principles of law. The rest of us other straight married people will just shake our heads at you while we watch the dying gasp of conservative anti-equality - and Netflix.

Mr Jensen concluded his article saying he and his wife “know we are not alone” in their decision to divorce in protest.

Yes you are Mr. Jensen. You are very alone - so very alone.

Unfortunately, he's not as alone as one might think - and hope.

My thoughts turn to the philosopher who sued the Norwegian government in order to
1) invalidate the gender neutral marriage act, or
2) invalidate all marriages - All of them - on the grounds that every married person had consented to be married within a definition of marriage which only included one man and one woman. The argument was that since the government was changing the definition of marriage and including homosexual marriage, it was imposing a definition previously married couples hadn't consented to, and thus every marriage was invalid.

They lost every case they tried, and the case was rejected by both the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights (Inadmissable due to being manifestly ill-founded).

[Pope Joan]

I thought Canadians were better than this.

Canberra is Canadian?

[Genivaria]

This topic is being flooded by gays he is right just not doing the right thing in my old country we hanged gays

Somalia?

Saudi Arabia? Iran? Texas?

[Lordareon]

... or something.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relati ... 7391644573



So, long story short, this guy and his wife are getting a divorce because gay people can get married. It's the equivalent of throwing your toys down in protest and running from the room crying and we have to publicize it. I'm sort of glad, however, that in America we don't have an absolute monopoly on absurdity. Practically cornered the market? Yeah, maybe - but not absolutely. The more that people start screaming and crying in protest at the government accepting equality, the more I am convinced that we're doing the right thing here (not that I haven't been convinced for a while, but damn).

Divorce all you want crazy-ass conservative straight people! It doesn't change the fundamental principles of law. The rest of us other straight married people will just shake our heads at you while we watch the dying gasp of conservative anti-equality - and Netflix.



Yes you are Mr. Jensen. You are very alone - so very alone.

Unfortunately, he's not as alone as one might think - and hope.

My thoughts turn to the philosopher who sued the Norwegian government in order to
1) invalidate the gender neutral marriage act, or
2) invalidate all marriages - All of them - on the grounds that every married person had consented to be married within a definition of marriage which only included one man and one woman. The argument was that since the government was changing the definition of marriage and including homosexual marriage, it was imposing a definition previously married couples hadn't consented to, and thus every marriage was invalid.

They lost every case they tried, and the case was rejected by both the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights (Inadmissable due to being manifestly ill-founded).

But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.

evendence.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

Mr Jensen is NOT alone, he is living with ex-Mrs Jensen. He is living in sin with ex-Mrs Jensen and plans to spawn a horde of bastards and abominations in the face of the Lord.

I guess the bastards will have to take the surname Sands. Jensen's plan is broken. Oz law is so wishy-washy liberal that that horde of bastards will be free-born Citizens rather than the plague ridden abominations that they ought to be.

[MERIZoC]

I thought Canadians were better than this.

Canberra is Canadian?

We secretly annexed it.

[Genivaria]

Unfortunately, he's not as alone as one might think - and hope.

My thoughts turn to the philosopher who sued the Norwegian government in order to
1) invalidate the gender neutral marriage act, or
2) invalidate all marriages - All of them - on the grounds that every married person had consented to be married within a definition of marriage which only included one man and one woman. The argument was that since the government was changing the definition of marriage and including homosexual marriage, it was imposing a definition previously married couples hadn't consented to, and thus every marriage was invalid.

They lost every case they tried, and the case was rejected by both the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights (Inadmissable due to being manifestly ill-founded).

But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.

evendence.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."

Literally all of this is bullshit and has been debunked.
Please stop peddling bullshit.

[Valerion]

Unfortunately, he's not as alone as one might think - and hope.

My thoughts turn to the philosopher who sued the Norwegian government in order to
1) invalidate the gender neutral marriage act, or
2) invalidate all marriages - All of them - on the grounds that every married person had consented to be married within a definition of marriage which only included one man and one woman. The argument was that since the government was changing the definition of marriage and including homosexual marriage, it was imposing a definition previously married couples hadn't consented to, and thus every marriage was invalid.

They lost every case they tried, and the case was rejected by both the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights (Inadmissable due to being manifestly ill-founded).

But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.

evendence.

Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:

"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.

The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.

Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."

Who or what your brain develops chemical reactions constituting "love" for isn't exactly that simply.

[Dyakovo]

No. Rising divorce rates are due to multiple reasons. But the big one I see is not being absolutely certain that they are the one you are to be with for life. In a world where we fear commitment, a divorce seems like an easy opt-out, so they are more likely to go into marriage still unsure. The only deterrent I can think of outside of religion is that it's really expensive to get divorced. Even that's not enough sometimes. Just don't get married until you are absolutely sure they are you're one and only for life.

You might want to read more than just the title.

Reading is fundamental hard.

[The Beast of Boston]

This just gives private attorneys more incentive to support gay marriage loudly.

Not only does gay marriage means gay divorces, now it means more straight divorces too!

Why would you ever want to give divorce attorneys more money? Those people are absolute scum.