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How do YOU game?

Console (Please Specify)
60
16%
PC
185
48%
Arcade
0
No votes
Anything and Everything
108
28%
Other
6
2%
Something witty
26
7%
 
Total votes : 385

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Postby Bythyrona » Sat May 16, 2015 2:21 pm

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Abserdia wrote:Tip number 1 in MLB 15 The Show: FAST FORWARD THROUGH THE TUTORIAL.
TRUST ME.
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I always hated tutorials in baseball games. It might explain why I never bought many sports games outside the NCAA ones.

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Postby Corrian » Sat May 16, 2015 3:12 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Downloading Wofenstein the New Order, 40 gigabytes, says it will take about an hour or two. Think i might pause it and do it in the morning.

Going to mess around in the editor for Men at war again i think.

Main thing I know about the Wolfenstein game is that it has my like, 2nd favorite soundtrack of last year.

This, this, this, and this are all superb in my opinion. For a soundtrack, anyway.
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Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 3:17 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Downloading Wofenstein the New Order, 40 gigabytes, says it will take about an hour or two. Think i might pause it and do it in the morning.

Going to mess around in the editor for Men at war again i think.


TWO HOURS?
'WHAT THE FUCK

That game took me two weeks to finish downloading
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat May 16, 2015 3:27 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Downloading Wofenstein the New Order, 40 gigabytes, says it will take about an hour or two. Think i might pause it and do it in the morning.

Going to mess around in the editor for Men at war again i think.


TWO HOURS?
'WHAT THE FUCK

That game took me two weeks to finish downloading

Now I kinda wanna buy it just so I can gloat about how quickly it would download. Probably... two and a half hours, I'm guessing, three tops.
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Postby Abserdia » Sat May 16, 2015 3:53 pm

Double-A, MLB 15 The Show. 1 stolen base coming into the game.
I come out with 6.
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I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 16, 2015 4:02 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Downloading Wofenstein the New Order, 40 gigabytes, says it will take about an hour or two. Think i might pause it and do it in the morning.

Going to mess around in the editor for Men at war again i think.


TWO HOURS?
'WHAT THE FUCK

That game took me two weeks to finish downloading

Thats because i pray to the machine spirits.

And Virgin Broadband :lol:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 16, 2015 4:08 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
TWO HOURS?
'WHAT THE FUCK

That game took me two weeks to finish downloading

Thats because i pray to the machine spirits.

And Virgin Broadband :lol:


What the hell is your Internet bill lol
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 16, 2015 4:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats because i pray to the machine spirits.

And Virgin Broadband :lol:


What the hell is your Internet bill lol
I dont pay it, that falls to my brother :lol:

Though honestly, my old provider bt was fucking terrible, it took me three days to download a map pack for Halo 3 on the 360, and it took two tries.

This is just fantastic in comparison to that piece of crap.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 16, 2015 4:10 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What the hell is your Internet bill lol
I dont pay it, that falls to my brother :lol:

Though honestly, my old provider bt was fucking terrible, it took me three days to download a map pack for Halo 3 on the 360, and it took two tries.

This is just fantastic in comparison to that piece of crap.


I wish I had that lol, I'd be getting mad host advantage on every game we play.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 16, 2015 4:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I dont pay it, that falls to my brother :lol:

Though honestly, my old provider bt was fucking terrible, it took me three days to download a map pack for Halo 3 on the 360, and it took two tries.

This is just fantastic in comparison to that piece of crap.


I wish I had that lol, I'd be getting mad host advantage on every game we play.

Yeah my ping in EU servers is usually around 60 or below most of the times in warthunder, in Garrys Mod is usually 20 something. Though today i had some crazy lag spikes in warthunder where it shot up to 999, though i think that was mainly due to my brother using dropbox to transfer things. I think.

Or I might not have doused enough of the holy cleansing oils on the router today.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat May 16, 2015 4:21 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Game? Sounds interesting.

Sounds like EndWar, EMP makes me think Euro Corps.

Aren't the Americans called Force Recon?
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Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 4:37 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I wish I had that lol, I'd be getting mad host advantage on every game we play.

Yeah my ping in EU servers is usually around 60 or below most of the times in warthunder, in Garrys Mod is usually 20 something. Though today i had some crazy lag spikes in warthunder where it shot up to 999, though i think that was mainly due to my brother using dropbox to transfer things. I think.

Or I might not have doused enough of the holy cleansing oils on the router today.


Ping is something I've never had a problem with - I luckily live about sixty miles from one of the largest server hosts on the East Coast. I almost always had 17ms ping in BO1, with similar numbers in other public-server games.


But my 3.8 Mbps don't lie.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Abserdia » Sat May 16, 2015 5:27 pm

Explain the Metal Gear Solid franchise in a few words. Here's mines!
"Butts, stealth, and a whole lot of cutscenes."
Black lives matter

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So long, Frank Lloyd Wright
I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
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Postby Volmachtia » Sat May 16, 2015 5:40 pm

Can anyone tell me how well optimized Wolfenstein: The New Order is for PC? My rig matches the recommended but sometimes lack of polish can run down performance.

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Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 5:44 pm

Volmachtia wrote:Can anyone tell me how well optimized Wolfenstein: The New Order is for PC? My rig matches the recommended but sometimes lack of polish can run down performance.

I had no issues with it.

The id Techs aren't particularly demanding engines.
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 5:52 pm

Abserdia wrote:Explain the Metal Gear Solid franchise in a few words. Here's mines!
"Butts, stealth, and a whole lot of cutscenes."

like skyrim with crates
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Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Ardavia » Sat May 16, 2015 6:22 pm

Abserdia wrote:Explain the Metal Gear Solid franchise in a few words. Here's mines!
"Butts, stealth, and a whole lot of cutscenes."


"Stealth, cardboard boxes and a whole lot of plot."
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Postby Licana » Sat May 16, 2015 6:25 pm

Abserdia wrote:Explain the Metal Gear Solid franchise in a few words. Here's mines!
"Butts, stealth, and a whole lot of cutscenes."


"died of dehydration during the cutscene"
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Ladies and gentlemen...I have an announcement to make.

Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 7:04 pm

So in case any of you ever had any doubt as to whether or not Nvidia was being anticompetitive:


http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/commen ... we_should/


Project CARS, The Witcher 3, and who knows what else - all deliberately engineered by Nvidia to reduce the performance of competing cards. And that doesn't just mean AMD - it also means older Nvidia cards, too.

And the worst part?


The devs said that they don't even fucking care. They got their shekels and they're ignoring the issue. Nvidia gets their shekels and reaps the benefits of people like Czech who buy their products regardless, just because they have the ball in their court. And they have the court, too.


For my green friends out there, try to see this situation if it was reversed.
Let's say Star Citizen came out. Titan X gets 35 FPS on ultra 1440p, while the 290X gets 55. The Titan blows the 290X out of the water in terms of performance, but the game was engineered to gimp performance. You wouldn't be happy, would you?


And before someone says 'this is just capitalism' - it isn't. There are laws in place against this sort of thing.

15 U.S.C. § 1: "Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal." (In layman's terms: attempting to create contracts/conspiracies to restrain trade is illegal)

15 U.S.C. § 2: "Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony." (in layman's terms: attempting to monopolize any part of trade or commerce is a felony)

15 U.S.C. § 14: "It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, to lease or make a sale or contract for sale of goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities, whether patented or unpatented, for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, or fix a price charged therefor, or discount from, or rebate upon, such price, on the condition, agreement, or understanding that the lessee or purchaser thereof shall not use or deal in the goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities of a competitor or competitors of the lessor or seller, where the effect of such lease, sale, or contract for sale or such condition, agreement, or understanding may be to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce." (in layman's terms: requiring people who use your products to not use your competitors' products is illegal when it lessens competition)

The only way they could not be held accountable to Title 17 Chapter 1 laws is if they were considered a charity under § 37, which they obviously aren't.



And so, my brothers, my subjects, citizens of the Holy PC Gaming Empire and of the Great Gaming Republic itself, I call to you.

This is our darkest hour.

We have faced threats before. We, as an Empire, as a Republic, have battled before. Warred before. Lost before. Won before.
We survived two crashes only to rebuild. We're good rebuilding. We've done it before. We could do it again.
This Republic has gone almost uninterrupted since 1983. There's meaning there. There's power there.

This isn't about PC. This isn't about consoles.

We've fought before, but not like this.
The media tried to kill us in the 70s. We fought back. We won.
The market tried to kill us in the 80s. We fought back. We won.
The media tried again in the 90s. We fought back. We won.
The economy tried to kill us in the 00s. We fought back. We won.

But we have never had to face an enemy like this.
We have fought before, we have never fought ourselves.

Our enemies do not surround us.
Our enemies pervade us.

They are the developer standing at the streetcorner, begging for pledges.
They are the publishers standing on the soapboxes, raining their wills upon their mangled and unwilling vassals.
They are the systems themselves, torn apart by corruption and greed.

They are us.
And if we don't act, we will become them.

This is not a battle.
This is not a fight.
This is not a war.
This is a choice. A choice that every gamer will have to make - do you, as a member of this great Republic, believe in yourself? Believe in your hobby? Believe in your very life!?

For the past thirty years I have watched the industry through its wanes and its waxes, but I have never seen it as dire as it stands today.

In the great history of Gaming, few have really stood for something. To really believe in the sanctity of the Great Republic of Gaming, to really believe in the power to believe, is not an easy thing to do. I look to our founding fathers: John Carmack, Gabe Newell, Tim Sweeney, et al. These men had character. These men saw an industry, a Republic, and knew that they could do their part to help make it that much better. Some of them would crack under pressure - some would not, but each tried their hand, and each had the power to believe.

You may say, "But Beno, gaming is about having fun. Can't we just all get along?" To which I say, to hell with you! Does the sleeping man have fun? Is the sleeping man free? For that's what apathy is - to willfully put your mind to rest, and resolve yourself to physical activity with no mental backing. Ignorance isn't bliss - ignorance is slavery, and freedom is its own reward.
For that's what this is about. Our very freedom is under attack - our freedom to choose our way of gaming, our freedom to choose our hardware, our freedom to game. This is not about peace, this is not about fun -for they are already at war with us, and if we choose not to fight then we are choosing to die.
And is that what you would want? Trade your very life for the chance to be happy for a little while? To that, I say "You can't spell apathetic without pathetic".

I cannot offer you that. I cannot offer you fun. I cannot offer you peace. I can offer you just one thing: The power to believe.
For this is a war that they are waging not just on our holy Republic, but on our very minds! They fill our forums with their bought-and-sold drivel, they fill our airwaves with their feces, they fill our thoughts with their repetitions. It is no surprise that the lowest of games sells the highest, when budgets are taken into account. On all spectrums of Gaming they writhe in their own filth, their own defecation, seeking endlessly to spread that defecations to the rest of gaming.

And I can't take it anymore!

Our very existence is at stake here - if we are not constantly vigilant, if we do not fight them at every level, they will win. We cannot, cannot, cannot allow that to happen. The results of loss here are unthinkable.

I see two worlds.

The first - chains. Chains placed on the wrists of the many. Chains placed on the necks of the poor. But I refer not to money - I refer to belief.
This world contains no fun. This world is built upon the backs of greed, of monopolies, of shitware, of terror. Terror of the gaming kind. They don't see it as fun - they who place the chains are in it only for the gains. And they're already starting. This world is run by the evil, for the evil.

The second - rain. Cool, beautiful rain. It falls past the eyes of the many as they great the developers and publishers as equal. The game designers have the money in this world, but all are rich - a true gaming platinum age.
This world contains only fun. The sorrows and evils of gaming's past are gone, and anew gaming is! This gaming, this New Republic, is built upon the backs of equality, democracy, and freedom. Freedom of the gaming kind. For when all are equal as gamers, as developers, as publishers, as distributors - then, then we can truly be free.


But I don't see that second world forming now.
I see only the first.
I see the shekels of today becoming the shackles of tomorrow.
The greed of today becoming the chains of tomorrow.
The monopolies of today becoming the tyrants of tomorrow.

But that's not all I see.

I see potential.

If left unchecked, unczeched, only the second world will form. And we will all, even those who wanted no part, suffer because of it.

But the first world can be formed. We will have to make it ourselves, of course, but it isn't impossible.
In fact, I wouldn't even say it's improbable.
We just have to do it.

We just have to believe.


The power to believe.
It may be the only power we will ever have...


..but it's the only power we will ever need.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Licana » Sat May 16, 2015 7:26 pm

Bezombia wrote::Czech intensifies:


Image
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Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

Senestrum wrote:How are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".

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Postby Bezombia » Sat May 16, 2015 7:28 pm

Licana wrote:
Bezombia wrote::Czech intensifies:


Image


Oh come on it took me two hours to write that.
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby New Oyashima » Sat May 16, 2015 7:55 pm

Licana wrote:
Bezombia wrote::Czech intensifies:


Image

Pen15.
Wasn't going to qoute that for this.

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Postby Czechanada » Sat May 16, 2015 8:12 pm

Bezombia wrote:So in case any of you ever had any doubt as to whether or not Nvidia was being anticompetitive:


http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/commen ... we_should/


Project CARS, The Witcher 3, and who knows what else - all deliberately engineered by Nvidia to reduce the performance of competing cards. And that doesn't just mean AMD - it also means older Nvidia cards, too.

And the worst part?


The devs said that they don't even fucking care. They got their shekels and they're ignoring the issue. Nvidia gets their shekels and reaps the benefits of people like Czech who buy their products regardless, just because they have the ball in their court. And they have the court, too.


For my green friends out there, try to see this situation if it was reversed.
Let's say Star Citizen came out. Titan X gets 35 FPS on ultra 1440p, while the 290X gets 55. The Titan blows the 290X out of the water in terms of performance, but the game was engineered to gimp performance. You wouldn't be happy, would you?


And before someone says 'this is just capitalism' - it isn't. There are laws in place against this sort of thing.

15 U.S.C. § 1: "Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal." (In layman's terms: attempting to create contracts/conspiracies to restrain trade is illegal)

15 U.S.C. § 2: "Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony." (in layman's terms: attempting to monopolize any part of trade or commerce is a felony)

15 U.S.C. § 14: "It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, to lease or make a sale or contract for sale of goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities, whether patented or unpatented, for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, or fix a price charged therefor, or discount from, or rebate upon, such price, on the condition, agreement, or understanding that the lessee or purchaser thereof shall not use or deal in the goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities of a competitor or competitors of the lessor or seller, where the effect of such lease, sale, or contract for sale or such condition, agreement, or understanding may be to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce." (in layman's terms: requiring people who use your products to not use your competitors' products is illegal when it lessens competition)

The only way they could not be held accountable to Title 17 Chapter 1 laws is if they were considered a charity under § 37, which they obviously aren't.



And so, my brothers, my subjects, citizens of the Holy PC Gaming Empire and of the Great Gaming Republic itself, I call to you.

This is our darkest hour.

We have faced threats before. We, as an Empire, as a Republic, have battled before. Warred before. Lost before. Won before.
We survived two crashes only to rebuild. We're good rebuilding. We've done it before. We could do it again.
This Republic has gone almost uninterrupted since 1983. There's meaning there. There's power there.

This isn't about PC. This isn't about consoles.

We've fought before, but not like this.
The media tried to kill us in the 70s. We fought back. We won.
The market tried to kill us in the 80s. We fought back. We won.
The media tried again in the 90s. We fought back. We won.
The economy tried to kill us in the 00s. We fought back. We won.

But we have never had to face an enemy like this.
We have fought before, we have never fought ourselves.

Our enemies do not surround us.
Our enemies pervade us.

They are the developer standing at the streetcorner, begging for pledges.
They are the publishers standing on the soapboxes, raining their wills upon their mangled and unwilling vassals.
They are the systems themselves, torn apart by corruption and greed.

They are us.
And if we don't act, we will become them.

This is not a battle.
This is not a fight.
This is not a war.
This is a choice. A choice that every gamer will have to make - do you, as a member of this great Republic, believe in yourself? Believe in your hobby? Believe in your very life!?

For the past thirty years I have watched the industry through its wanes and its waxes, but I have never seen it as dire as it stands today.

In the great history of Gaming, few have really stood for something. To really believe in the sanctity of the Great Republic of Gaming, to really believe in the power to believe, is not an easy thing to do. I look to our founding fathers: John Carmack, Gabe Newell, Tim Sweeney, et al. These men had character. These men saw an industry, a Republic, and knew that they could do their part to help make it that much better. Some of them would crack under pressure - some would not, but each tried their hand, and each had the power to believe.

You may say, "But Beno, gaming is about having fun. Can't we just all get along?" To which I say, to hell with you! Does the sleeping man have fun? Is the sleeping man free? For that's what apathy is - to willfully put your mind to rest, and resolve yourself to physical activity with no mental backing. Ignorance isn't bliss - ignorance is slavery, and freedom is its own reward.
For that's what this is about. Our very freedom is under attack - our freedom to choose our way of gaming, our freedom to choose our hardware, our freedom to game. This is not about peace, this is not about fun -for they are already at war with us, and if we choose not to fight then we are choosing to die.
And is that what you would want? Trade your very life for the chance to be happy for a little while? To that, I say "You can't spell apathetic without pathetic".

I cannot offer you that. I cannot offer you fun. I cannot offer you peace. I can offer you just one thing: The power to believe.
For this is a war that they are waging not just on our holy Republic, but on our very minds! They fill our forums with their bought-and-sold drivel, they fill our airwaves with their feces, they fill our thoughts with their repetitions. It is no surprise that the lowest of games sells the highest, when budgets are taken into account. On all spectrums of Gaming they writhe in their own filth, their own defecation, seeking endlessly to spread that defecations to the rest of gaming.

And I can't take it anymore!

Our very existence is at stake here - if we are not constantly vigilant, if we do not fight them at every level, they will win. We cannot, cannot, cannot allow that to happen. The results of loss here are unthinkable.

I see two worlds.

The first - chains. Chains placed on the wrists of the many. Chains placed on the necks of the poor. But I refer not to money - I refer to belief.
This world contains no fun. This world is built upon the backs of greed, of monopolies, of shitware, of terror. Terror of the gaming kind. They don't see it as fun - they who place the chains are in it only for the gains. And they're already starting. This world is run by the evil, for the evil.

The second - rain. Cool, beautiful rain. It falls past the eyes of the many as they great the developers and publishers as equal. The game designers have the money in this world, but all are rich - a true gaming platinum age.
This world contains only fun. The sorrows and evils of gaming's past are gone, and anew gaming is! This gaming, this New Republic, is built upon the backs of equality, democracy, and freedom. Freedom of the gaming kind. For when all are equal as gamers, as developers, as publishers, as distributors - then, then we can truly be free.


But I don't see that second world forming now.
I see only the first.
I see the shekels of today becoming the shackles of tomorrow.
The greed of today becoming the chains of tomorrow.
The monopolies of today becoming the tyrants of tomorrow.

But that's not all I see.

I see potential.

If left unchecked, unczeched, only the second world will form. And we will all, even those who wanted no part, suffer because of it.

But the first world can be formed. We will have to make it ourselves, of course, but it isn't impossible.
In fact, I wouldn't even say it's improbable.
We just have to do it.

We just have to believe.


The power to believe.
It may be the only power we will ever have...


..but it's the only power we will ever need.


This is the greatest post ever scribed on the Internet. :clap:

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Postby Torisakia » Sat May 16, 2015 8:41 pm

Bezombia wrote:So in case any of you ever had any doubt as to whether or not Nvidia was being anticompetitive:


http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/commen ... we_should/


Project CARS, The Witcher 3, and who knows what else - all deliberately engineered by Nvidia to reduce the performance of competing cards. And that doesn't just mean AMD - it also means older Nvidia cards, too.

And the worst part?


The devs said that they don't even fucking care. They got their shekels and they're ignoring the issue. Nvidia gets their shekels and reaps the benefits of people like Czech who buy their products regardless, just because they have the ball in their court. And they have the court, too.


For my green friends out there, try to see this situation if it was reversed.
Let's say Star Citizen came out. Titan X gets 35 FPS on ultra 1440p, while the 290X gets 55. The Titan blows the 290X out of the water in terms of performance, but the game was engineered to gimp performance. You wouldn't be happy, would you?


And before someone says 'this is just capitalism' - it isn't. There are laws in place against this sort of thing.

15 U.S.C. § 1: "Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal." (In layman's terms: attempting to create contracts/conspiracies to restrain trade is illegal)

15 U.S.C. § 2: "Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony." (in layman's terms: attempting to monopolize any part of trade or commerce is a felony)

15 U.S.C. § 14: "It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, to lease or make a sale or contract for sale of goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities, whether patented or unpatented, for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, or fix a price charged therefor, or discount from, or rebate upon, such price, on the condition, agreement, or understanding that the lessee or purchaser thereof shall not use or deal in the goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies, or other commodities of a competitor or competitors of the lessor or seller, where the effect of such lease, sale, or contract for sale or such condition, agreement, or understanding may be to substantially lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce." (in layman's terms: requiring people who use your products to not use your competitors' products is illegal when it lessens competition)

The only way they could not be held accountable to Title 17 Chapter 1 laws is if they were considered a charity under § 37, which they obviously aren't.



And so, my brothers, my subjects, citizens of the Holy PC Gaming Empire and of the Great Gaming Republic itself, I call to you.

This is our darkest hour.

We have faced threats before. We, as an Empire, as a Republic, have battled before. Warred before. Lost before. Won before.
We survived two crashes only to rebuild. We're good rebuilding. We've done it before. We could do it again.
This Republic has gone almost uninterrupted since 1983. There's meaning there. There's power there.

This isn't about PC. This isn't about consoles.

We've fought before, but not like this.
The media tried to kill us in the 70s. We fought back. We won.
The market tried to kill us in the 80s. We fought back. We won.
The media tried again in the 90s. We fought back. We won.
The economy tried to kill us in the 00s. We fought back. We won.

But we have never had to face an enemy like this.
We have fought before, we have never fought ourselves.

Our enemies do not surround us.
Our enemies pervade us.

They are the developer standing at the streetcorner, begging for pledges.
They are the publishers standing on the soapboxes, raining their wills upon their mangled and unwilling vassals.
They are the systems themselves, torn apart by corruption and greed.

They are us.
And if we don't act, we will become them.

This is not a battle.
This is not a fight.
This is not a war.
This is a choice. A choice that every gamer will have to make - do you, as a member of this great Republic, believe in yourself? Believe in your hobby? Believe in your very life!?

For the past thirty years I have watched the industry through its wanes and its waxes, but I have never seen it as dire as it stands today.

In the great history of Gaming, few have really stood for something. To really believe in the sanctity of the Great Republic of Gaming, to really believe in the power to believe, is not an easy thing to do. I look to our founding fathers: John Carmack, Gabe Newell, Tim Sweeney, et al. These men had character. These men saw an industry, a Republic, and knew that they could do their part to help make it that much better. Some of them would crack under pressure - some would not, but each tried their hand, and each had the power to believe.

You may say, "But Beno, gaming is about having fun. Can't we just all get along?" To which I say, to hell with you! Does the sleeping man have fun? Is the sleeping man free? For that's what apathy is - to willfully put your mind to rest, and resolve yourself to physical activity with no mental backing. Ignorance isn't bliss - ignorance is slavery, and freedom is its own reward.
For that's what this is about. Our very freedom is under attack - our freedom to choose our way of gaming, our freedom to choose our hardware, our freedom to game. This is not about peace, this is not about fun -for they are already at war with us, and if we choose not to fight then we are choosing to die.
And is that what you would want? Trade your very life for the chance to be happy for a little while? To that, I say "You can't spell apathetic without pathetic".

I cannot offer you that. I cannot offer you fun. I cannot offer you peace. I can offer you just one thing: The power to believe.
For this is a war that they are waging not just on our holy Republic, but on our very minds! They fill our forums with their bought-and-sold drivel, they fill our airwaves with their feces, they fill our thoughts with their repetitions. It is no surprise that the lowest of games sells the highest, when budgets are taken into account. On all spectrums of Gaming they writhe in their own filth, their own defecation, seeking endlessly to spread that defecations to the rest of gaming.

And I can't take it anymore!

Our very existence is at stake here - if we are not constantly vigilant, if we do not fight them at every level, they will win. We cannot, cannot, cannot allow that to happen. The results of loss here are unthinkable.

I see two worlds.

The first - chains. Chains placed on the wrists of the many. Chains placed on the necks of the poor. But I refer not to money - I refer to belief.
This world contains no fun. This world is built upon the backs of greed, of monopolies, of shitware, of terror. Terror of the gaming kind. They don't see it as fun - they who place the chains are in it only for the gains. And they're already starting. This world is run by the evil, for the evil.

The second - rain. Cool, beautiful rain. It falls past the eyes of the many as they great the developers and publishers as equal. The game designers have the money in this world, but all are rich - a true gaming platinum age.
This world contains only fun. The sorrows and evils of gaming's past are gone, and anew gaming is! This gaming, this New Republic, is built upon the backs of equality, democracy, and freedom. Freedom of the gaming kind. For when all are equal as gamers, as developers, as publishers, as distributors - then, then we can truly be free.


But I don't see that second world forming now.
I see only the first.
I see the shekels of today becoming the shackles of tomorrow.
The greed of today becoming the chains of tomorrow.
The monopolies of today becoming the tyrants of tomorrow.

But that's not all I see.

I see potential.

If left unchecked, unczeched, only the second world will form. And we will all, even those who wanted no part, suffer because of it.

But the first world can be formed. We will have to make it ourselves, of course, but it isn't impossible.
In fact, I wouldn't even say it's improbable.
We just have to do it.

We just have to believe.


The power to believe.
It may be the only power we will ever have...


..but it's the only power we will ever need.

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This whole "new republic of gaming" thing is nice and all. I like the imagery you used. But I think I'll just sit on the sidelines and watch this...whatever this is about...unfold. I'm not relevant enough to make an impact, really.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Torisakia wrote:This whole "new republic of gaming" thing is nice and all. I like the imagery you used. But I think I'll just sit on the sidelines and watch this...whatever this is about...unfold. I'm not relevant enough to make an impact, really.

If everyone has that view, then there will not be an impact.
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