The Rejected Times

[Consular]

So rather than answer EW, TSP is just going to let this discussion descend into another incredibly pointless argument with Moralist Cormac 2.0?

[Kringalia]

So rather than answer EW, TSP is just going to let this discussion descend into another incredibly pointless argument with Moralist Cormac 2.0?

TSP doesn't answer to Evil Wolf, it answers to its People.

[Xoriet]

So rather than answer EW, TSP is just going to let this discussion descend into another incredibly pointless argument with Moralist Cormac 2.0?

Cormac is a flame among moths. Gameplayers miraculously return from retirement and LoA to argue with Cormac. DOS players create new puppets just to flame him. Some people willingly risk a flame warning just to get in what they consider a clever dig at him. There is no one quite like Cormac.

[Nautarya]

So rather than answer EW, TSP is just going to let this discussion descend into another incredibly pointless argument with Moralist Cormac 2.0?

What would TSP say that it hasn't already said, repeatedly?

[Glen-Rhodes]

This is TRR's newspaper. TSP is going to go about its business. We've got other things coming up to do than engage in a pointless debate that won't change anybody's opinions.

[Cormac Stark]

So rather than answer EW, TSP is just going to let this discussion descend into another incredibly pointless argument with Moralist Cormac 2.0?

Cormac is a flame among moths. Gameplayers miraculously return from retirement and LoA to argue with Cormac. DOS players create new puppets just to flame him. Some people willingly risk a flame warning just to get in what they consider a clever dig at him. There is no one quite like Cormac.

Excuse me while I sig this.

[BadNewsBarrett]

Is he free to continue the legal actions he had begun before the removal of his citizenship?

If he keeps a nation in the region, absolutely. Our Bill of Rights covers all residents, regardless of their citizenship status.

If any one thought he was going to get a trial or is "absolutely" able continue legal action, then I'm afraid I've got some bad news.

[Evil Wolf]

If any one thought he was going to get a trial or is "absolutely" able continue legal action, then I'm afraid I've got some bad news.

You know, it didn't escape my notice that a full 1/3 of the Cabinet that declared Belschaft a "security threat" are on the list of individuals having defamation charges filed against them by Belschaft. This defamation being related to the claim that Belschaft committed "criminal conspiracy to commit electoral fraud and in doing so committed treason against The Coalition of The South Pacific" a crime he has yet to be charged with, never mind found guilty of.

How ironic that 1/3 of the Cabinet who voted to strip Belschaft of his citizen in relation to "criminal conspiracy" were, at the same time, being accused of defamation by Belschaft for their claims and how very, very convenient for that 1/3 that the case now might be thrown out because Belschaft was declared a "security threat" for the very same reasons that Belschaft have claimed constitute defamation.

I imagine it would be very embarrassing and quite the scandal if Belschaft's defamation case went to trial and the defendants were found guilty. It would also cast great suspicion and doubt on the "security threat" declaration, I would have to guess.

How very amusing.

[Cormac Stark]

Nevermind that 2/3 of the Cabinet aren't on that list, and had only the 1/3 on the list supported removing Belschaft's citizenship, it wouldn't have happened. These details are meaningless when raiders are trying to spin a narrative.

[Evil Wolf]

Yeah, I mean, 1/3, or two out of a pool of six, I mean, that's hardly anyone, right? Not like those two had a significant and vital hand in removing Belschaft's citizenship and thus possibly the charges against themselves.

Oh wait, what am I thinking? They absolutely did and this is a pretty huge detail that The Rejected Times conveniently left out.

However, thanks for pointing out that I'm a raider for the 100th time, Cormac. I'm sure that detail is already know by just about everyone by now (and is in fact even in my Commend) but your attempts to somehow discredit my viewpoint as invalid based solely on this well know fact are at least sorta cute. Pointless and child-like, but cute none the less.

[Solorni]

I thought EW was a defender

[Consular]

I thought EW was a defender

I mean, he's like, commended by the Security Council, and stuff. The SC wouldn't commend a raider, right?!

[Glen-Rhodes]

Unibot is the only senior Cabinet member who was a defendant in Belschaft's now-dismissed defamation suit. Who was the other one?

[Sovreignry]

Unibot is the only senior Cabinet member who was a defendant in Belschaft's now-dismissed defamation suit. Who was the other one?

Maybe they forgot that Escade is no longer Del?

[Belschaft]

Why are people still talking about me? My ego loves the attention but surely there's something more interesting going on.

[RiderSyl]

Why are people still talking about me? My ego loves the attention but surely there's something more interesting going on.

Nope, apparently not.

[Evil Wolf]

Unibot is the only senior Cabinet member who was a defendant in Belschaft's now-dismissed defamation suit. Who was the other one?

Kringalia.

[Kringalia]

Unibot is the only senior Cabinet member who was a defendant in Belschaft's now-dismissed defamation suit. Who was the other one?

Kringalia.

Nope.

[Evil Wolf]

You're still one of the five members initially charged and still one of the six members who stripped Belschaft of his citizenship, without a trial, shortly thereafter.

My point still stands.

[Cormac Stark]

You're still one of the five members initially charged and still one of the six members who stripped Belschaft of his citizenship, without a trial, shortly thereafter.

My point still stands.

It really doesn't, in that your point was to accuse the Cabinet of stripping Belschaft's citizenship to avoid "one-third" of the Cabinet being charged with defamation, when in reality only one Cabinet officer was still being charged with defamation.

You can't just be wrong and insist that your point still stands. It doesn't because the premise was completely wrong. Your point stands in the same way that a drunk stands after happy hour: it can't stand up, but it insists that it can.

[Evil Wolf]

It really doesn't, in that your point was to accuse the Cabinet of stripping Belschaft's citizenship to avoid "one-third" of the Cabinet being charged with defamation, when in reality only one Cabinet officer was still being charged with defamation.

And Kringalia would still look very foolish if the Defamation charges were proven. He did echo the other defendants and Belschaft claimed he only revoked the charges against specifically Kringalia because Belschaft felt Kringalia was purposefully mislead. Tricked, if you will.

All the same, Kringalia and Unibot had a massive conflict of interest. They should have left the matter to the Court, but instead chose to go around that Court system and permanently ban the citizenship and remove the rights of the man who had charged the both of them with Defamation, even if Belschaft did revoke the charges against one of them just before being punished.

I'm curious, when the topic discussing the decision to remove Belschaft's rights was started in the Cabinet did it occur before or after Belschaft dropped the charges against Kringalia? I'm willing to bet good money it was before.

[Solorni]

You're still one of the five members initially charged and still one of the six members who stripped Belschaft of his citizenship, without a trial, shortly thereafter.

My point still stands.

It really doesn't, in that your point was to accuse the Cabinet of stripping Belschaft's citizenship to avoid "one-third" of the Cabinet being charged with defamation, when in reality only one Cabinet officer was still being charged with defamation.

You can't just be wrong and insist that your point still stands. It doesn't because the premise was completely wrong. Your point stands in the same way that a drunk stands after happy hour: it can't stand up, but it insists that it can.

Umm, drunk people until a point can still stand and it's kinda sad to be that drunk after happy hour given that happy hours generally end prior to 8

[Kringalia]

Quite frankly, EW, TSP is none of your business.

[KaelThas Quilor]

It isn't Cormac's either, but it hasn't stopped you from letting him argue your case ('letting', because I'm not saying you sent him here). I didn't see any TSPers saying TSP wasn't his business.

[Zaolat]

Quite frankly, EW, TSP is none of your business.

Last time I checked TSP is a GCR and Wolf isn't banned I think.