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by Liecthenbourg » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:48 pm
by Liecthenbourg » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:52 pm
by The Industrial States of Columbia » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:52 pm
by Bujahla » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:52 pm
Liecthenbourg wrote:Bujahla wrote:Can we please not have the whole "monarchy vs. republicanism" shit we had last time? Like can't we all just be more pragmatic.
We'd be down for that.
Awesome.
Nouvelle France likes friends.
I'm going to be honest here, Nouvelle France doesn't give a shit what you're gov't type is. As long as you treat your citizens well, we're fine with that. Hence my hesitation to have good terms with the CSA, but then Buj mentioned the thing on Slavery so I was like. "K"
*Huzzah he lives!*
by Liecthenbourg » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:54 pm
Bujahla wrote:Liecthenbourg wrote:Awesome.
Nouvelle France likes friends.
I'm going to be honest here, Nouvelle France doesn't give a shit what you're gov't type is. As long as you treat your citizens well, we're fine with that. Hence my hesitation to have good terms with the CSA, but then Buj mentioned the thing on Slavery so I was like. "K"
That was Kry that mentioned that btw.
by Valentir » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:55 pm
Liecthenbourg wrote:Bujahla wrote:Can we please not have the whole "monarchy vs. republicanism" shit we had last time? Like can't we all just be more pragmatic.
We'd be down for that.
Awesome.
Nouvelle France likes friends.
I'm going to be honest here, Nouvelle France doesn't give a shit what you're gov't type is. As long as you treat your citizens well, we're fine with that. Hence my hesitation to have good terms with the CSA, but then Buj mentioned the thing on Slavery so I was like. "K"
by Liecthenbourg » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:55 pm
by The Industrial States of Columbia » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:57 pm
by Baja California y Sonora » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:00 pm
Aldelxane wrote:How do reservations work in this iteration of NI (how do I reserve something)?
by Baja California y Sonora » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:04 pm
by The Industrial States of Columbia » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:11 pm
Baja California y Sonora wrote:Egh I'm coming back as Chile.
My back up nations are taken and the only idea I have left is the Imerina Kingdom which would probs be colonized in the first IC page.
by Alleniana » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:15 pm
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Allen I swear to the Lort if you reuse the event that turns Naples into Pompeii 2.0 again I will find you and shove you so far down the pouch of the nearest kangaroo.
The Khedive wrote:I wonder if I should just apply as the Germany rather than North Germany.
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:@Svelt
The British actually sided with Napoleon and were defeated by the coalition of I am assuming Portugay, the Dual Kingdom, the UK, Russia, and the HRE. Otherwise I'm not sure how Napoloen lost (by that I mean based off of Coalition members) bc he's hella strong and without all of them he could easily win
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Is it OK to switch back to Bavaria, since Jonanathian backed out of Germany?
Mangjukoia wrote:How's the situation with Hokkaido? Which is it going to be a protectorate of?
by Alleniana » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:32 pm
Sveltlana wrote:Application
Name: Kalmar Union of Scandinavia (Sk.: Kalmarunionen Skandinavien; Denonym: Scandinavian/Kalmar)
Aldelxane wrote:It's an Aksum after several centuries of continued survival and growth.
by The Emerald Dragon » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:37 pm
by Pacificana Islands » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:41 pm
The New Lowlands wrote:Application *WIP*
Name: Ruthenian Empire (Empire of Rus')
Symbols: Flag of the United Slavs : State Emblem : Anthem
Claims: The most honorable state ofKyivan Rus'the Ruthenian Empire
Power: Great Power (for some reason)
Government Structure: Originally a union of two crowns, developed into a formal political and military union (e.g. the United Kingdom.) The central government (often referred to as the National Government or Coalition Government) is directed from Warsaw, where it retains complete control over affairs of defense and foreign relations. The Coalition government also has a strong grip over economic policy, and according to the Constitution keeps the entire country in a strongly secular state (as necessary to please the various religious minorities.) Substate governments (e.g. the State Assemblies of Poland, Lithuania, Livonia, Ruthenia, the Regional Assemblies of Königsberg and Zapadnyrossiya) are allowed great autonomy in establishing local education curricula (although State mandate requires a certain amount of hours be dedicated to the teaching of Polish, the lingua franca, religious education and history books are subject to centralized review and censorship to avoid subversion of the state.) The State Assembly has an upper house which is elected every 6 years through regional representation, while the lower house enjoys being elected every 3 years through proportional representation; the Government is decided through means of a coalition, which must have a majority vote (i.e. approval of a majority coalition OR approval of the opposition) to be formed. A Supreme Court, with representatives from all the sub-states (two for Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and Livonia each, one for Königsberg and Zapadnyrossiya each) determines the constitutionality of legislation and serves as a high-ranking appeals court. As members of the National Assembly are provided with a stipend, it is not unheard of for commoners to join their ranks, although typically monetary concerns mean the gentry and capitalists dominate above all.
Ideology/Policy: Ruthenia considers itself the benevolent protector of all Slavic minorities and states, and also considers itself the Union State of all Slavs. Unlike the former Tsardom of Moscow, however, this policy benefits from the fact that this is, to some extent, actually the case; the Empire's government has allowed for extensive protections of minority cultures and remains essentially secular. Exceptions to this policy include the Belarusians (who are ethnographically considered Russians, to be converted either to Ruthenians, Poles, or Proper Russians if possible) and the Cossacks (who have been suppressed and crushed in favour of Ruthenian settlement.) Overall the state is very liberal and as a constitutional monarchy, is also democratic with universal male suffrage, although it has little problem associating with more authoritarian states to its own benefit. The Empire broadly speaking does not approve of genocide and prefers benevolent imperialism to outright land-grabbing.
Leaders:
King of Poland, Duke of Lithuania, and Emperor of Ruthenia [hereditary]: Stanislaw August Józef Poniatowski (Stanislaw III of Poland-Lithuania, Stanislaw I of Ruthenia)
Prime Minister of Poland [elected]: Stanislaw Brzezinski
Prime Minister of Lithuania [elected]: Dovidas Paksas
Prime Minister of Ruthenia [elected]: Nikita Veremchuk
Chancellor of Livonia [elected]: Tonis Laurits
Grand Mayor of Novgorod [elected]: Vladimir Yerokhin
Grand Mayor of Königsberg [elected]: Johannes Müller
Capital City: The Imperial Palace and National Assembly both lie in Kiev, while the Royal Palace of Poland-Lithuania lies in Warsaw. Königsberg serves as the capital of an autonomous German-speaking region, while Riga does the same for Livonia. Vilnius remains at the heart of Lithuania, as the home of their regional assembly.
Population: 45,327,000
Primary Ethnic Group: Polish
Minority Ethnic Groups: Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Belarusian, Latvian, Estonian, Russian, German
Description of Ethnicity: Pan-Slavic, comrade!
Language: All of the above; regional languages taught include Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Russian, German, Belarusian, and Crimean Tatar. As per State legislation, all schools are required to provide some education in the lingua franca of Polish. Russian and German are exclusively languages of instruction in Königsberg and Zapadnyrossiya, respectively, while Crimean Tatar gained regional status after negotiate with the Ruthenian sub-state as a secondary language after Ukrainian.
Religion: Primarily Catholic, with strong Orthodox presence in the South and East and some Protestants concentrated in Livonia. The state is by necessity secular, although the King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania claims to be Defender of the Faith.
Foreign Relations: Due to historical and geopolitical reasons, the Western principalities keep an entirely cold stance towards Russia, with a foreign policy defined by a mix of military fear, territorial ambitions due to irredentist and ethnic claims. Friendly relations with Germany are considered a possibility, but are secondary to much closer relations with France and the UK due to diplomatic support during the November Uprising and ambitions to join the ranks of the Western Powers in a non-colonial way. Finland may be considered a key northern ally although their isolationism prevents truly good relations, and while the Union may also have interest in protecting their Slavic brothers to the South, the Balkans are a less interesting target for expansion than Russia unless a particularly good opportunity arises, especially if they face particularly dogged Austrian opposition.
Military Information: The small active force is entirely professional and consists primarily of cavalry. The navy, too, is an all-volunteer force, and comparatively weak even for the Baltic Sea; most of the military's strength comes from it's two-million strong reserve force, up to the standard of a conscript army organised into departments from which each company draws strength, coalescing into a regiment at a central point and then being directed to the army in a fairly swift process.
Army Size: 50,000 are in the Army of Warsaw, with another 20,000 in the Army of Lithuania and 30,000 in the Army of Kiev, and a garrison of 5,000 in the Army of Livonia, all of which are primarily cavalry units. These are roughly sufficient to establish a general staff to train and command the 2 million reservists spread across the country.
Navy Size: There is a monitor based out of Gdansk, and another two remain in Konigsberg, modern ships, but few in number. A number (15) of torpedo boats have been distributed among the coast guard, based in groups of three along the towns of Koszalin, Wladyslawowo, Malinovka, Liepaja, and Tallinn. The state supports but neither owns nor funds a fairly large merchant fleet for Baltic and Atlantic trade.
Economic Policy: The Union supports free trade with those willing to buy its wheat, and is more than willing to purchase machine parts and industrial goods from the more industrialised powers for the time being, although it continue to support its own industrialisation through the use of foreign investment as capital. The state also intervenes, primarily to provide education and by making investment opportunities more practical and more attractive, which it does through maintaining and expanding the national rail network, which is of fairly recent construction but one of the more modern models for the world to follow, stretching from Gdansk to Mykolaiv and transporting grain into Germany, France, and through ports, Britain.
Economic Situation: West of the Dnieper, every major town now boasts a rail link to the national network; east of that same river, this only really applies to the larger towns. Livonia, despite being East of said river, is actually highly developed. Any town with a rail link has some kind of workshop going on; Gdansk, Warsaw, Konigsberg, and Kiev are real industrialized cities, with Riga well on the way to joining them.
Infrastructure: Fairly extensive, with a modern rail network spanning north-south across the country which required much of the state's saved capital; lands East of the Dnieper suffer from significantly worse infrastructure. Effective national education is probably the most notable of the state's achievements, but progress on the state's industrial capabilities continues to go slowly, although it continue to accelerate as foreign investment brings in more and more capital.
Imports & Exports: Exports primarily consist of grain and other agricultural products- not just the crops themselves, but also derivatives such as vodka and marmalade- as well as primary goods such as iron and coal. Imports primarily consist of industrial capital and finished manufactured goods, although Poland's liberal ways have provided it with an industrial base and something of a knowledge economy. Nothing to compete with the powerhouses of Europe, yet, but every town has a workshop, now, which is a significant improvement alongside greatly improved lines of transport and communication.
Currency: The Union Zloty, which remains relatively weak compared to the Mark, Franc, and Pound Sterling, all of which leads to an encouraging exports sector.
History: The Kingdom of Ruthenia was a state that emerged, in curious fashion, after Kievan Rus' managed to survive the Mongol onslaught to become a major tributary; alongside the Polish-Lithuanian state and the Tsardom in Moscow. In Poland, Sigismund II Augustus had stumbled upon the novel idea that, in order to preserve his dynasty, he would separate the position of his own kingship from the executive position of ruler of the state, whose powers he delegated to a so-called "Chief," to be elected from the nobility by the nobility, establishing the first electoral monarchy. Sigismund II, of course, managed to retain the Chiefdom for his reign, but it quickly fell into the hands of other nobles, chosen for political reasons or for effectiveness, which provided Poland with a slew of skilled monarchs. Kievan Rus' retained a certain sense of decentralization, while the Tsardom remained under the singular rule of the Prince of Moscow. None of the Eastern states enjoyed a position strong enough to participate in the Thirty Years' War comfortably, although Poland remained staunchly Catholic. Ruthenia enjoyed fairly good relations with the states to its south, and alternatively allied with or fought against both Poland and Moscow, but Cossack rebellions and continued decentralization put Poland-Lithuania in a key position of strength compared to Ruthenia; the nobles, unwilling to let their state fall to Muscovite centralized rule, offered King Casimir V (during the rule of Chief Stanislaw Leszczyński) control of a newly-minted Imperial crown, leading to a personal union between the two states.
Casimir V, for his part, did his best to streamline and centralize control in Ruthenia, which led to improvements in the state's administration and military situation, the growth of Catholicism in the country, as well as continued rebellions from the Cossacks and combativeness from the Tsar. Of course, Moscow was not strong enough to resist the combined strength of Poland-Lithuania and Ruthenia, which allowed for both the Cossacks to be crushed (letting the country seize the northern Caucasus) and Moscow to be almost completely annihilated. Unfortunately the successes of the 18th century gave way to misery by means of Swedish and Napoleonic invasions. Napoleon's march into Ruthenia is a story to be remembered for all ages; although the French general was highly skilled in the manner that he conducted himself with regards to Ruthenia, defeating small armies in the field, he had failed to account for the strategic (as opposed to tactical) skill of the Ruthenians, who forced him to cross the Dnieper with an insufficient force and defeated him using numerical superiority in a surprise attack on the opposite side of Kiev, having led him on a wild goose-chase throughout the country. While the Battle of Kiev crushed Napoleon's ambitions to seize the East, they left Ruthenia in a weaker position and had spread the poison of revolution into the country.
After Napoleon's folly, it became necessary both in Poland-Lithuanian and Ruthenia to acknowledge the emancipation of the serfs, as well of the loss of the almost complete domination Ruthenia had held over the Eastern Slavic and trans-Uralic states. This had its own consequences; freedom of labor and urbanisation led to greater and greater power being concentrated among merchants and the lower classes, and ensuing demands for greater clarity and control over the state's affairs would require either concession or the completed destruction of Ruthenia. Emperor Stanislaw II of Ruthenia intervened against the will of Chief, establishing a National Assembly in Kiev and appointing a number of representatives from various regions, leaders of industry and merchandise all, to establish areas for the securing of electoral districts. He also took power out of the hands of the nobility with the help of the Army; this also assured the formal economic and political integration of all the territories under the Ruthenian crown into a single super-polity. A lack of capital (and, up until the 1850s, a lack of perceived need for it) meant that Ruthenia only truly began to industrialize in the 1860s, and due to the territory's great size, the process is still ongoing. Naturally this great size remains Ruthenia's major defense; nobody is stupid enough to go marching into the Motherland, which has allowed it to develop in relative peace.
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by Aldelxane » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:45 pm
Alleniana wrote:Sveltlana wrote:Application
Name: Kalmar Union of Scandinavia (Sk.: Kalmarunionen Skandinavien; Denonym: Scandinavian/Kalmar)
If you recall, Virgin Islands, Timor, Greenland, Iceland are all taken, and reduce your African colonies by 1 or 2 provinces. If you were just to lazy to edit it out of the map though, I'll just put you on the map as you should be and don't worry about it. More detail on economic policy/situation, maybe navy size, currency, imports & exports, etc. Slight edits needed in history, but ehh.
Do that stuff and you're good to go.
Sehr gut, a few things though;
no female suffrage, even Finland only legalised it last year. Maybe something like 40+ landowning females, but actual universal? No.
Zanzibar king swear fealty? That's basically vassalship; worse than protectorate, which if you recall I said could only be under de jure independence. And also pull the date forward a bit if you will.
You didn't remove either Aden or Socotra.
And finally, there's a province in India, the one wedged between China, India and Afghanistan, which is lonely; take it plox.Aldelxane wrote:It's an Aksum after several centuries of continued survival and growth.
Try to shrink it; it's absolutely sprawling, from Nubia to the Swahili city-states to the Somali naval settlements. Also, Sudan was reserved.The Khedive wrote:
Too many colonies; pick one province of any of the areas you've specified. All of Prussia is claimed. More detail on ideology/policy, language, religion, infrastructure, etc.
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