Ban on atheism

[Eastern Equestria]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

[The Alma Mater]

I see your points but not all Atheists are bad. In fact, not many atheists I know will not murder, or rape, or steal. The only people who would do such things are people who are sick in the head. Are you implying all atheists are sick in the head, OP?

NOTE: I am a Christian

No, (s)he is implying CHRISTIANS are sick in the head - since the only thing stopping them from doing evil is fear of God.
According to him/her

[Immoren]

But where do these human rights come from?

We've deemed so.

Everything is permissible under atheism.

How come

"Survival of the fittest".

Having stable social settings is beneficial for propagation of social species.

The ten commandants laid down the foundation of modern Western law

I'd more guess that that Greco-Romans and Germanics have been more important and foundational.
Then again my memory is shoddy.

[Skinia]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Nope, no 'atheism' there.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

I don't want to live in a society where everything is dictated by whatever your imaginary friend and book of fairy tales tells you.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

Your logic cannot be wrong, because there's no logic at all.

[Cyrisnia]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

This scares me.
Ghandi was a Hindu
Benjamin Franklin was a cultural christian but was a DEIST.
and they're were Atheist 9/11 volunteers too.
Please learn your facts, and I will state again seeing you ignored my statement, God would be a Libertarian.

Obama is Christian.
Saddam is Muslim.

And why would you put someone like Monroe on a list of "Good, notable people who were Christians?"
She was an actress, and had a very controversial life at that.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

It starts with your basic assumption that the church, jesus, god, the bible et al are correct and infallible.

Yeah. That's what kind of annoys me about OP's post. Things are treated as fact when they aren't necessarily so.

[Krakosov]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

Should it also be illegal to believe in, for example sikhism or any other religion that dont worship jesus?
why is atheism worse than any non abrehamic religions?

[The United Caribbean]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers
Hitler


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Fixed

[Hurdegaryp]

I prefer enlightenment, for it makes you see reality as it is. Mankind created gods to make sense of their world, for giving a personality to natural processes gives you the soothing illusion that nature can be reasoned with. Genesis claims that God made man in His image, but it's actually the other way around. It's all about humanity as the center of the universe, but it is generally called God in order to claim false humility.

Not really, I do see the things in quite a platonic view. There IS something, but we're simply to inferior to fully understand it. And so, we must follow the religion who is the nearest to what we think God is. Or no religion if you don't give a crap 'bout it...

(And about the fact of creating god for making sense, it's wrong... People created Gods for having a reason to follow the laws and do not do too much bad things. Without God, no civilisation'll have ever be able to developped itself...)

Still an antropomorphization of nature and concepts that were actually already present in humans as an organized group animal before religions became fully developed. Humans are actually not the only species with morals, as biologists found out. But as the only creature on this world that has mastered the written word, we can actually elaborate on those concepts and create codes of law. Since humanity had also generated an exciting range of gods by the time writing was developed, laws were often married to said deities in order to avoid people questioning them. No use trying to debate with a god, after all.

[The Alma Mater]

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I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been locked yet.

No mods.

However, as I said, there ARE people who truly think like the OP. And they are quite numerous.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 158AA3v8Dx
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

No it's not obvious.

[Zrhajan]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

Where is your logic wrong? I'd say it started when you assumed that because similar laws existed between your religion and government, it meant that governments must automatically be religious, despite most modern governments having a separation between church and state. also, those other "grave sins" you mention? violate human rights. atheism, allowed by the UNDHR. in fact, one could argue that a ban on it would violate the whole religious freedom thing, specifically Article 18, as follows, "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."

[Urmanian]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers
Hitler
Stalin
Obama

I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Fixed

Fixed some more.

[Conserative Morality]

But where do these human rights come from? Everything is permissible under atheism. "Survival of the fittest".

Nothing is permissible under atheism. Atheism alone makes no claim of divine rules. Atheist humanists believe that one should not do harm to one's fellow man, but not all atheists are humanists.

Atheism doesn't remove all values. It strips religious values - I still follow generally American morals, and, indeed, I think of myself as having a more American moral code than some. Religious values are not the only values, and those that remain are all the more important.

The ten commandants laid down the foundation of modern Western law and this is a widely accepted truth.

No.

Greece and Rome are the foundation of Western society.

Look through history - the constant revising of laws and regulations has been to achieve some measure of impartiality, often looking back to Greece and Rome. The ten commandments have two rules that are unusual among its contemporaries, and both of those rules deal with monotheism.

But western law no longer makes sense. From the atheistic point of view, if someone has something I want, and I'm stronger than him, and I take it, how is it wrong.

It's wrong because I, as a human being, as an American, as a thinking person, choose, under my system of values, to say that it's wrong. To say that it's repugnant. To say that I'll oppose you every step of the way. That's what real values are. You don't need to believe you'll be rewarded to follow them. Most theists, I think, know this. Some seem to forget it when arguing with atheists, however.

[Anarchist States Of America]

This shouldn't be locked. I think Mods locking threads is a pathetic joke.

[The Kokyuna Clan]

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

Where is my logic wrong?

Please be a fucking troll, please be a fucking troll...

...

AH FUCK! He's not a troll...

Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church.

And?

It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine.

And?

It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

So anything not Christian is just a complete fucking moral sin?

Motherfucker, why are you only banning Atheism then?

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc.

Well, except when you're doing it for God then it's okay, right?

Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins

Okay... why is it classified by you as worse than all of those other WAY more heinous actions?

Wait... so let me get this straight... if there's a Christian murdeing rapist that steals shit... and then an Atheist that doesn't commit any actual crimes... The Atheist is somehow worse?

Okay, you have to be a troll now. Not even idiotic fundamentalists can think that argument is correct.

Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

Oh, making something illegal tends to show a downward trend in it's use? Really? What a shocker...

Because back in the Dark Ages, they had the same laws.

What a glorious time that was for Christianity...

[Skinia]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

I think we've given you just enough attention. Peace out.

[New Carloso]

The notion of "banning atheism" is absolutely ridiculous. People are entitled to their own beliefs or lack there of as long as they don't harm others.

[Geanna]

I see your points but not all Atheists are bad. In fact, not many atheists I know will not murder, or rape, or steal. The only people who would do such things are people who are sick in the head. Are you implying all atheists are sick in the head, OP?

NOTE: I am a Christian

No, (s)he is implying CHRISTIANS are sick in the head - since the only thing stopping them from doing evil is fear of God.
According to him/her

If the only reason one's not committing evil acts is because they fear punishment - then they do not have actual faith. Being able to choose to follow God of one's own free will is faith. The former is just fear and obedience and will not win you any brownie points with the Big Man.

[Xerusia]

Psalm 116:11 "All men are liars"
Men Wrote the bible. So yeah he has a reason for his beliefs.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been locked yet.

No mods.

However, as I said, there ARE people who truly think like the OP. And they are quite numerous.

Yeah. It's a little terrifying.

[Elepis]

Look at the facts, obviously evolution is fake because if it was real we could fly like planes. Also, Atheism is bad, not only for people's salvation but also their health. Over 70% of all jail inmates are non-christian, and 82% of all people who have been sentenced to death didn't believe in God. Not only does Atheism promote crime, but also terrorism.

Notable Atheists:

Stalin
Saddam Hussein
Hitler
Obama
Mao Zedong
Pol-Pot

Notable Christians

George W. Bush
Gandhi
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Marilyn Monroe
9/11 Volenteers


I think it's obvious, atheism should be illegal!

Notable Christians:
HITLER
HIMMLER (SS)
reinhard heydrich (SECOND IN COMMAND, SS)

Notable Atheists
Hawking
Brian Cox
Ataturk

[UBS]

I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY...WHO CARES.WHO CARES IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD,OR SCIENCE,OR A RACCOON IN SPACE.JUST AS LONG AS YOUR NOT ON THE STREETS BEING ANNOYING,OR KILLING PEOPLE FOR SAID RACCOON IN SPACE.SO EVERYONE JUST PLEASE BE QUIET AND PLAY NICE!

[Free United Provinces of East Torkelburg]

lol, OK OP! You win. Either you're a really retarded idiot or you're an extremely bored troll. Either way, I capitulate.

[Geanna]

I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been locked yet.

No mods.

However, as I said, there ARE people who truly think like the OP. And they are quite numerous.

And loud...