Ban on atheism

[Reddogkeno101]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Why are you trolling mate? Just why? It winds up people, but you've got to be a masochist to enjoy it. So please do us a favour and stop.

[Immoren]

God of war and hosts.

Hmm?

Yahwe of that era was still quite a war god of israelite pantheon among other gods, instead of "universal god" he later developed.

[Zottistan]

Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life. Through Jesus Christ, Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.

So why would anyone choose this except for liberal brainwashing?

Honesty, maybe.

[Cyrisnia]

Millions of children die every year because of ATHEIST abortion. There were also Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol-Pot Robespierre etc.

crusades
jihad
inquisition
etc

[IisraelL]

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Believers have the burden of proof, not atheists.

[Hurdegaryp]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

Estainia, your views give me hope that not all theists abandon reason. It is the theist zealots that worry me. Do they worry you as well?

Zealots are never a good thing, for their ilk only brings forth suffering.

[Socialist Tera]

My opinion on religion being taught to younger people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU

[The Alma Mater]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

You still have not answered the earlier question about what this implies about your own thought process. Is it really so that when you are talking a walk on the street and see a pretty lady you think "I MUST ROB AND RAPE HER" and prepare to do so - but just as you are about to strike think "SHIT - God is watching, better not ?".

Is that truly the only thing stopping you ?

[Celritannia]

Millions of children die every year because of ATHEIST abortion. There were also Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol-Pot Robespierre etc.

You think God was pro-life?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.”

[Free United Provinces of East Torkelburg]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Burden of Proof lies with the person trying to prove something, not the person trying to deny it.

Also, there are many animals that are highly intelligent. Take Dolphins, Elephants, Dogs, Cats and various other species for example.

To add to your statement, I think that Sahrani misunderstands evolution. There are no "levels" or "advancements" that evolution is trying to "advance to", it simply means that there are small changes over a long period of time. If those changes are bad then they usually die off.

[Lordieth]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

I think we can both agree there are extremist views on both sides, and banning or otherwise suppressing freedom of thought should be considered the very worst kind of control. Faith and science are polar opposites, but you find that, provided they do not encroach on one another directly (faith doesn't dictate the laws of nature, and science doesn't dictate the non-existence of a divine creator), then in most circumstances the two can coexist. But when one or the other tries to force absolutes on the other, that is where dissension arises.

Nobody should force their views on others, and nobody should claim the unprovable to be an absolute, and that goes for theists and athiests alike.

[IisraelL]

Millions of childrenfetuses die every year because of ATHEIST abortion.

It's a controversial subject, and it doesn't have to do with belief or disbelief.

[Cyrisnia]

Can we stop this?
OP is a goddamned troll, or just so ignorant all of our IQ's are taking it in.

[Aelex]

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

That reminds me of a quote which goes something like this:
The commoner believes religion is true. The wise man sees that it is false. The ruler sees it as a tool.

I personnaly remember this one :

"La religion n'est rien d'autre que l'ombre portée de l'Univers sur l'intelligence humaine" that can be, roughly, translated to "Religion is nothing more than what a man see of the Universe's shadow".

That is the point. So, what is the best? To follow a shador or to remain in the full dark? I do prefer the shadow but, it's a personnal choice and everyone should be able to make it.

[Estainia]

Okay, this is flawed. As a theist let me take a second to defend my dreaded enemy the atheist and antitheist.

Variation of opinion is a sign of free will, that thing held sacred to Christians but apparently not the OP's version of religion. In civil terms, freedom of speech, media etcetera applies to everyone, not just the people you want to hear. Should Atheism be illegal? No. If you illegalize Atheism you're not helping solve any problems you're creating new ones, that kind of thing leads to hate, and hate leads to violence and there's enough violence against theists already between ourselves, lets not also include the people who passive-aggressively dislike us as well.

I think we can both agree there are extremist views on both sides, and banning or otherwise suppressing freedom of thought should be considered the very worst kind of control. Faith and science are polar opposites, but you find that, provided they do not encroach on one another directly (faith doesn't dictate the laws of nature, and science doesn't dictate the non-existence of a divine creator), then in most circumstances the two can coexist. But when one or the other tries to force absolutes on the other, that is where dissension arises.

Nobody should force their views on others, and nobody should claim the unprovable to be an absolute, and that goes for theists and athiests alike.

Aye, that we can agree on.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

If you read his private conversations in the 1940s, Hitler is avowedly anti-Christian. I believe he said such things as in your quote for mere political gain, or at least trying to paint the NSDAP as a stalwart of Christianity.

But still it means allot of people he fooled were fooled with their religion, which means that Christianity helped the holocaust happen whether on purpose or accident.

*sigh* I think that's very tenuous at BEST to say what you said in the bold. You know what also helped the Holocaust happen? GOOD WEATHER. If it had just been stormy for years on end, it couldn't have happened!

My point: to ascribe blame to Christianity as a whole for the Holocaust is largely a non sequitur, in my view.

[Schneidern empire]

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who ever said Hitler was atheist LOOK AT THIS

I'll be the first to say it, probably the only person to actually follow the bible.

This post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the Bible, and Christianity's key tenets.

I pose you three simple questions:

In your opinion, is it wrong to kill a person (for this arguments sake, I will be discounting abortion victims)that is not guilty of any crime? (IE: Murder)

In your opinion, is it wrong to sexually assault a non-consenting person?

In your opinion, is it wrong to remove a persons private possessions, without their permission.

[Celritannia]

Burden of Proof lies with the person trying to prove something, not the person trying to deny it.

Also, there are many animals that are highly intelligent. Take Dolphins, Elephants, Dogs, Cats and various other species for example.

To add to your statement, I think that Sahrani misunderstands evolution. There are no "levels" or "advancements" that evolution is trying to "advance to", it simply means that there are small changes over a long period of time. If those changes are bad then they usually die off.

Exactly.

[The Alma Mater]

Can we stop this?
OP is a goddamned troll, or just so ignorant all of our IQ's are taking it in.

Why would being a troll matter ? As mentioned earlier, it corresponds to how christians have thought for 2000 years and, according to some polls, most still think.
So even if the OP is a troll, it is a view many people genuinely have. Denying that is silly.

[The Justinian Horde]

This sounds like feminism

[The Cobalt Sky]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Source?

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

Nah. Natural selection. And you've also made blanket statements. Don't point fingers if you've got dirty hands.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolution
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ ... +selection

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

Evolution. Also, source for that?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof.

Our proof is that your proof doesn't make sense.

[Sphermenia]

Not every bad person is an atheist, but every atheist is a bad person.

Surely, if evolution was not guided by a God, then we would not have evolved minds geared toward truth, only survival. In that case, where do you get off making blanket statements about the nature of the universe?

If our IQ is a product of evolution and survival then why are humans the only ones with the higher intellect? And why do people with higher IQs not live any longer than regular people?

How belief in a god without proof is any different than denial of a god without proof. Ergo Absence of Evidence is not the same thing as Evidence of Absence. Also, it's logically impossible to prove a universal negative

Can you please just shut up for a moment?

You're acting like the reason some people choose to be athiests:
To get away from people constantly screaming and spamming "GOD IS REAL GOD IS REAL GOD IS REAL OH COME ON HOW DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN GOD ITS OBVIOUS AND YOU NEED TO OR ELSE YOU'RE A BAD PERSON AND BLAH BLAH BLAH I REQUIRE ATTENTION"
Seriously, you're not gaining points with God here, you don't do it by doing that, all you're doing is being an asshole.

amen cyrisnia, good work


BTW 89% supports atheism being legal, so the zealots are loosing, thank god

[Courlany]

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[Sahrani South]

Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Adolf Hitler, Atheist: 15 million dead
Vladimir Lenin, Atheist: 5.5 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

Crusaed: 1-3 million deaths over hundreds of years

how does this compare?

[Lordieth]

Can we stop this?
OP is a goddamned troll, or just so ignorant all of our IQ's are taking it in.

Or the OP is actually an atheist, and is highlighting the ludicracy of blind fundamentalist religious fervor.