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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:53 pm

One day, you're going to have dozens of regions and like fifty pilers at your beck and call and I'm going to be really damn glad that Silver is your general, we try to get your couple updaters out, an we figured out a working relationship after being enemies for so long xP
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:53 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:One day, you're going to have dozens of regions and like fifty pilers at your beck and call and I'm going to be really damn glad that Silver is your general, we try to get your couple updaters out, an we figured out a working relationship after being enemies for so long xP

Trust me that is my ideal world. We are slowly getting there and the good thing is we are turning just random nations into Raiders...or members of AoI. If Sicarius (I keep spelling it wrong don't i?) has that much trust and belief in AoI; I would be more than happy to get some form of non-restrictive treaty up between our two regions.
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NoblePhnx
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Postby NoblePhnx » Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:15 pm

It's why we favored ties with Sic, top flight raider talent there with Sap,EWS and then Val for being Val. Vision is we continue developing our piling strength so that as the update strike team coalesces we have enough updaters to take bigger and bigger targets at update only to pour in the endos afterward. Think the initial multi-regional strike on WZAU only bigger, higher value targets.

I'll say it again our pilers are special they have bought into the piling as a natural extension of our active community and supporting AoI goals. Actually hoping Trestic decides to start piling after a few convos between us :p
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Postby AOI Administration » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:17 am



    Did Rifty leak a password?
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As many of you would have heard – there was a accusation going around for about a day that I had leaked the password on Madrigal’s occupation. I’ve come here to put them to rest after they have been resolved between the Madrigal Government and AoI’s Foundry.

I had asked Madrigal’s Raidboss; Shadoke, what he would do if one of his military members had leaked raid plans to a defender region. Soon after I received the password to the occupation which was something like “Madrigalisawesomefool.” I had assumed this was them stating that Madrigal was awesome and nothing more.

The next day Defenders had swooped in and claimed the region – Someone had leaked the password. Myself being the last person to receive the password, AoI being new to RU and my recent change from being Delegate of The Eternal Knights to founder of AoI has placed myself as the easiest and most realistic scapegoat. Word got around that it was me before it was proven.

After a heated response from myself and a fairamount of arguing – I decided to let them believe what they wanted as I did have no reasonable way of proving my innocence. From here I left the discussions and my involvement was minimal.

They found out who leaked the password and it was NOT me and this can be clarified with the Government of Madrigal.

shadoke:
Again, I will say it one last time, My actions were unprecedented, and uncalled for. I guess I was looking for a scapegoat on the matter to cover up my own failure. I gave the password to to many people, and I will reap the repercussions. I formally retcon all my past accusations. This is something i did myself.


    Removal of Festavo for treason
Well this is going to be painful to type…

Festavo and Myself clash a lot as individuals – Sadly this plays directly into our working relationship. About a month back he became minister of Defense in a DEFENDER region; The Darwinish Coalition, Now I wouldn’t have cared but he did it with a region I have had consistent drama with.

For the first week of his term and prior I had been looking into a sleeper and long operation. After that initial week one of the citizens of DC came to me speaking of a simple truce; no more aggression. I am over the consistent drama with them so I was more than happy to scrap any operations and go straight towards this truce. It was going well up until he leaked scrapped operation data to DC stating that they were ongoing even though he knew for a fact they had been scrapped.

It damaged chances of peace and caused a fair bit of drama among our two regions. We have worked it out now though and trust and discussions are back.

This is where I asked the Madrigal Raidboss about what he would do. He assumed I was hinting towards me disclosing but in actual fact this was about festavo.

Festavo stated to begin with that it couldn’t get out as he believed that no one in raider unity would want him – going as far as saying he would leave NS if I went public. Earlier today he stated he doesn’t care as it won’t affect him. This clears up madrigal’s accusations and the ongoing drama with festavo.

We have decided we do not wish for him to be part of AoI from here on out for numerous reasons:

    » Leaking of ceased operation information to defender regions
    » Being part of defender regions
    » Refusal to take part in operations without some form of incentive like a promotion.
    » Being part of numerous militaries however he does not partake in majority of them. Leaving AoI constantly forgotten.
    » Numerous regional rule breakages
    » Attacking executive government when he did not receive his way

I feel Festavo is an exact replica of Realm – Just somehow got ahead in a few regions before showing his true colours. I will happily provide screenshots and direct quotes on this if needed – however this will need to wait 24 hours as I am currently without any access to my PC or Laptops.

    More admittance into the AoI Commonwealth…
Today we entered discussions with Madrigal surrounding them joining the AoI commonwealth. This does not undermine raider unity but allows for a more localised group of contacts. We use it as a way to get military support from non-raider regions. The way I have found easiest to explain it in comparison to Raider Unity is – Raider Unity is the Defence forces as a whole; AoI Commonwealth would be a division in the Navy.

We also have had both The Protectorate of Versus Militia and Aura Hyperia both join over the last week.


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Trick Shot
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:40 am

Okay. Lets address it:

1: The Darwinish Coalition is NOT a defender region, nor is it a raider region. It was a RP and chat region that needed a defense minister and requested for me. Its predessessor even went as far as building an embassy with a raider region, Sicarius.
2:I did not know that the idea was scrapped and i truly doubt that it was scrapped.
3: You claim that you had to dispell me from AoI, yet you were ready to let me stay in exchange for complete and utter obedience to your orders.
4: I leaked petty revenge operation information to a innocent region. IT wasnt a Raider Unity op, but merely a stupid vendetta raid much like GDU.
5: Again, not a defender region.
6: I took part in 9/10 of AoI operations.
7: AoI hasnt been forgotten. I am sorry if i dont spend every waking moment there, but i have a life.
8: Yeah i admit to that.
9: Attacking you actually. You are the only one in AoI i dislike.
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Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:46 am

Trick Shot wrote:Okay. Lets address it:

1: The Darwinish Coalition is NOT a defender region, nor is it a raider region. It was a RP and chat region that needed a defense minister and requested for me. Its predessessor even went as far as building an embassy with a raider region, Sicarius.
2:I did not know that the idea was scrapped and i truly doubt that it was scrapped.
3: You claim that you had to dispell me from AoI, yet you were ready to let me stay in exchange for complete and utter obedience to your orders.
4: I leaked petty revenge operation information to a innocent region. IT wasnt a Raider Unity op, but merely a stupid vendetta raid much like GDU.
5: Again, not a defender region.
6: I took part in 9/10 of AoI operations.
7: AoI hasnt been forgotten. I am sorry if i dont spend every waking moment there, but i have a life.
8: Yeah i admit to that.
9: Attacking you actually. You are the only one in AoI i dislike.

1. It is tagged defender - it's citizens recognise as defender. Just because they do very little changes nothing.
2. It was and you knew it. Still is. Talks with Polska are going well.
3. I was ready to give you a second chance...third...fourth? I can't keep up. You made clear this didn't matter. I did not want to see you leave NS so i was rather friendly and kept quiet. You made clear you would stay if it went public and you didn't care.
4. It was an AoI OP - I have sleepers in similar regions; just those ones do not have any personal feelings against it. Are you saying we should only take regions we have never been involved in? That if we have personal hate towards a region we can't do it but we can destroy regions we know nothing about?
5. Refer to number one
6. Umm no - Wheres noble when you need him xD
7. Oh please - I highly doubt the legitimacy of that statement.
8. uh wha
9. That's terrible since the rest of AoI loves their prophet
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Trick Shot
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:05 am

1. When? I wasnt aware of that.
2. No. Show me evidence where you told me...
3. I am done with you so i dont care how many chances you claim to want to give me.
4. It was a Rifty op. You were going to attack a region with a raider in the government. That aint right.
5. Refer to what i said.
6. I tell you, i was in a super majority of em.
7. haha
8. I did break rules, i admit it.
9. lol
Festavo Montresor-Stark
Pharaoh Emeritus of Osiris | Sergeant of The Black Hawks
Raiding like it should be: Sleepers, Griefing and Fun
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!

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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:10 am

I can vouch that Darwinish Brentislavia told me that it was a defender.
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:10 am

Trick Shot wrote:1. When? I wasnt aware of that.
2. No. Show me evidence where you told me...
3. I am done with you so i dont care how many chances you claim to want to give me.
4. It was a Rifty op. You were going to attack a region with a raider in the government. That aint right.
5. Refer to what i said.
6. I tell you, i was in a super majority of em.
7. haha
8. I did break rules, i admit it.
9. lol

1. You should know the region better than i -.-"
2. I'll find some. Certain i told you - If not you should already have known. Either way you should not have ever leaked.
3. i gave you 4 - I just did a count xD
4. It was an AoI OP - Leader of AoI; i think i know i know my region. My plans where around prior to you joining. Furthermore you shouldn't have joined a defender region xD
5. -
6. You actually weren't
7. -
8. You broke tons
9. :D
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Postby Shadoke » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:20 am

I think instead of pointing fingers at each other how about we work this out civilized-like. Both of you bring up good points. I think a military tribunal is in order
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:21 am

Rifty wrote:
Trick Shot wrote:1. When? I wasnt aware of that.
2. No. Show me evidence where you told me...
3. I am done with you so i dont care how many chances you claim to want to give me.
4. It was a Rifty op. You were going to attack a region with a raider in the government. That aint right.
5. Refer to what i said.
6. I tell you, i was in a super majority of em.
7. haha
8. I did break rules, i admit it.
9. lol

1. You should know the region better than i -.-"
2. I'll find some. Certain i told you - If not you should already have known. Either way you should not have ever leaked.
3. i gave you 4 - I just did a count xD
4. It was an AoI OP - Leader of AoI; i think i know i know my region. My plans where around prior to you joining. Furthermore you shouldn't have joined a defender region xD
5. -
6. You actually weren't
7. -
8. You broke tons
9. :D


Again, as far as i knew, it wasnt raider nor defender. The thing is it wasnt Raider Unity. I dont care about AoI ops anymore. I am not a part of AoI. My sole focus is on Sicarius and Madrigal.
Festavo Montresor-Stark
Pharaoh Emeritus of Osiris | Sergeant of The Black Hawks
Raiding like it should be: Sleepers, Griefing and Fun
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!

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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:23 am

Trick Shot wrote:
Rifty wrote:1. You should know the region better than i -.-"
2. I'll find some. Certain i told you - If not you should already have known. Either way you should not have ever leaked.
3. i gave you 4 - I just did a count xD
4. It was an AoI OP - Leader of AoI; i think i know i know my region. My plans where around prior to you joining. Furthermore you shouldn't have joined a defender region xD
5. -
6. You actually weren't
7. -
8. You broke tons
9. :D


Again, as far as i knew, it wasnt raider nor defender. The thing is it wasnt Raider Unity. I dont care about AoI ops anymore. I am not a part of AoI. My sole focus is on Sicarius and Madrigal.

Not sure what Sicarius will do but i am certain Madrigal won't be happy. You've admitted to leaking of operation details. I'm excitied to see how much trust is placed in you anymore.
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Prophet Sidney Rozeck

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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:28 am

Shadoke wrote:I think instead of pointing fingers at each other how about we work this out civilized-like. Both of you bring up good points. I think a military tribunal is in order

There is no pointing of the finger - We have stated his actions and have found him guilty. We have removed him from AoI and informed the gameplay community. If other regions wish to keep him in the military - than that is their choice. Just be aware that they will be screwed over too. Utilize this man as human resource - not as a leader.
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Postby NoblePhnx » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:58 am

Only one point to make, Trick you were not involved in 9/10 AoI ops Stretch and Jimi have been in every single op quite a few members actually have been in more ops than you.

I should know I am the one giving the piling orders and keeping count of endorsements.
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:50 pm

Festavo had come to me for advice about this, and I'll say more publicly what I told him.

In my interpretation, neither of you are in the right. On one hand, Festavo leaked operational details, big no-no, and was involved in a debatable defender region. On the other hand, Rifty had plans to attack a region that has shown zero defender activity and had a raider in a high-ranking position there. It's pretty damn traditional to leave the turf of other raiders, and indeed any place they might call home, off hit lists. You knew full well that he was involved there, and went after it anyways.

I honestly think the whole thing could have been fixed long ago with a little communication, and then later by a little mutual silence, but the cat is well out of the bag now.

In my opinion, the best thing you all can do is have a little chat, at least agree to disagree, and move on. If that means Trick resigns all AoI residency, and Rifty lets him just go, works. If you work out something else, works. But again, I think you both did things that are a little debatable, and then someone living in a glass house had to go and throw stones....
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The color or what?..

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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:09 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Festavo had come to me for advice about this, and I'll say more publicly what I told him.

In my interpretation, neither of you are in the right. On one hand, Festavo leaked operational details, big no-no, and was involved in a debatable defender region. On the other hand, Rifty had plans to attack a region that has shown zero defender activity and had a raider in a high-ranking position there. It's pretty damn traditional to leave the turf of other raiders, and indeed any place they might call home, off hit lists. You knew full well that he was involved there, and went after it anyways.

I honestly think the whole thing could have been fixed long ago with a little communication, and then later by a little mutual silence, but the cat is well out of the bag now.

In my opinion, the best thing you all can do is have a little chat, at least agree to disagree, and move on. If that means Trick resigns all AoI residency, and Rifty lets him just go, works. If you work out something else, works. But again, I think you both did things that are a little debatable, and then someone living in a glass house had to go and throw stones....

I terminated all ties with AoI and am not heartbroken at all. No regrets. It was a long time coming. I think we just need to let it go. Obviously Rift's big plan to damage didnt work. We both just looks like we messed up, but Rift messed up more. No more posts on this topic from me
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Pharaoh Emeritus of Osiris | Sergeant of The Black Hawks
Raiding like it should be: Sleepers, Griefing and Fun
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!

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Postby NoblePhnx » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:58 pm

I have been between these two since the inception of CoF, more than once and then just recently I made a big push for reconciliation between them but the vitriol and volatility between these two is so great even despite my best efforts they blew it all up. Both of them can confirm this and it saddens me especially since it was Trick who introduced me to Rift which is quite frankly ironic considering where we all ended up.

They cannot coexist in one place without being at each others throats if this clean break is what it takes so be it.

I wash my hands of this.
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:08 pm

NoblePhnx wrote:I have been between these two since the inception of CoF, more than once and then just recently I made a big push for reconciliation between them but the vitriol and volatility between these two is so great even despite my best efforts they blew it all up. Both of them can confirm this and it saddens me especially since it was Trick who introduced me to Rift which is quite frankly ironic considering where we all ended up.

They cannot coexist in one place without being at each others throats if this clean break is what it takes so be it.

I wash my hands of this.

For the record I liked Rift up until about the destruction of GDU.
Festavo Montresor-Stark
Pharaoh Emeritus of Osiris | Sergeant of The Black Hawks
Raiding like it should be: Sleepers, Griefing and Fun
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!

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Postby NoblePhnx » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:11 pm

Trick Shot wrote:
For the record I liked Rift up until about the destruction of GDU.

An event of which you were an equally culpable partner so I don't see how that was the breaking point. Yes you expressed your regret afterwards but it was a joint plan you executed.
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:44 pm

NoblePhnx wrote:
Trick Shot wrote:
For the record I liked Rift up until about the destruction of GDU.

An event of which you were an equally culpable partner so I don't see how that was the breaking point. Yes you expressed your regret afterwards but it was a joint plan you executed.

No it had nothing to do with the actual operation. I just remember thinking "Once GDU is gone I am leaving."
Festavo Montresor-Stark
Pharaoh Emeritus of Osiris | Sergeant of The Black Hawks
Raiding like it should be: Sleepers, Griefing and Fun
Marelius wrote:You got Festavo'd

Revall wrote:Festavo is an off his rocker cowboy capable of anything at the drop of a hat

Nuke wrote:But can you really be more dangerous than Festavo? Now that guy is a real fucking OG.

Valrifell wrote:God dammit Fest, you think too much!

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Postby NoblePhnx » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:43 pm

Trick Shot wrote:
NoblePhnx wrote:An event of which you were an equally culpable partner so I don't see how that was the breaking point. Yes you expressed your regret afterwards but it was a joint plan you executed.

No it had nothing to do with the actual operation. I just remember thinking "Once GDU is gone I am leaving."

But you didn't leave, the turning point must have been when you were ousted from MoD/Supreme Commander in CoF?
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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:40 pm

First off - my plans on DC had been going on prior for months prior to festavo joining them. He was aware of that. As far as i'm concerned it is seen as a sign of deliberately screwing up an operation. Now this was one of hatred but we as raiders take regions we have never spoken to and aren't defender on a daily basis. This is no different other than the fact i have a disliking for the region.

GDU i wished to be cancelled about 2 weeks into the operation - Festavo stated that he would go after the region with or without my support. I than again said no to the event about a week prior to it happening. Again he said he would without my support - so i went with it. He did majority of the work and i did not push him the entire time. He was far worse than I xD

If people wish to trust him than that is their loss. He has his defender past, numerous AoI offences and now the leaking of operation details. Best of luck to anyone taking him on.
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Postby Rifty » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:13 pm

Rifty wrote:First off - my plans on DC had been going on prior for months prior to festavo joining them. He was aware of that. As far as i'm concerned it is seen as a sign of deliberately screwing up an operation. Now this was one of hatred but we as raiders take regions we have never spoken to and aren't defender on a daily basis. This is no different other than the fact i have a disliking for the region.

GDU i wished to be cancelled about 2 weeks into the operation - Festavo stated that he would go after the region with or without my support. I than again said no to the event about a week prior to it happening. Again he said he would without my support - so i went with it. He did majority of the work and i did not push him the entire time. He was far worse than I xD

If people wish to trust him than that is their loss. He has his defender past, numerous AoI offences and now the leaking of operation details. Best of luck to anyone taking him on.

Putting out there though - I am more than happy to wipe my hands clean from all this and go on my merry way. I admit it was an irrational and emotional posting by myself; however it is genuine and true. Yes i do need to learn to sit with my anger... :unsure:

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Postby Trick Shot » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:35 am

Rifty wrote:First off - my plans on DC had been going on prior for months prior to festavo joining them. He was aware of that. As far as i'm concerned it is seen as a sign of deliberately screwing up an operation. Now this was one of hatred but we as raiders take regions we have never spoken to and aren't defender on a daily basis. This is no different other than the fact i have a disliking for the region.

GDU i wished to be cancelled about 2 weeks into the operation - Festavo stated that he would go after the region with or without my support. I than again said no to the event about a week prior to it happening. Again he said he would without my support - so i went with it. He did majority of the work and i did not push him the entire time. He was far worse than I xD

If people wish to trust him than that is their loss. He has his defender past, numerous AoI offences and now the leaking of operation details. Best of luck to anyone taking him on.

Yeah I knew about your operation. That is why I told then to prepare.

Again, I am not complaining about GDU. I just said that was a landmark I used to determine when I got sick of you
NoblePhnx wrote:
Trick Shot wrote:No it had nothing to do with the actual operation. I just remember thinking "Once GDU is gone I am leaving."

But you didn't leave, the turning point must have been when you were ousted from MoD/Supreme Commander in CoF?

No the turning point was this.
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Postby Rifty » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:51 am

Trick Shot wrote:
Rifty wrote:First off - my plans on DC had been going on prior for months prior to festavo joining them. He was aware of that. As far as i'm concerned it is seen as a sign of deliberately screwing up an operation. Now this was one of hatred but we as raiders take regions we have never spoken to and aren't defender on a daily basis. This is no different other than the fact i have a disliking for the region.

GDU i wished to be cancelled about 2 weeks into the operation - Festavo stated that he would go after the region with or without my support. I than again said no to the event about a week prior to it happening. Again he said he would without my support - so i went with it. He did majority of the work and i did not push him the entire time. He was far worse than I xD

If people wish to trust him than that is their loss. He has his defender past, numerous AoI offences and now the leaking of operation details. Best of luck to anyone taking him on.

Yeah I knew about your operation. That is why I told then to prepare.

Again, I am not complaining about GDU. I just said that was a landmark I used to determine when I got sick of you
NoblePhnx wrote:But you didn't leave, the turning point must have been when you were ousted from MoD/Supreme Commander in CoF?

No the turning point was this.

I stand by your ousting - Incompetency and a lack of work leads to a removal from government. Deleting of government documents. Personal attacks on citizens. The ousting was needed.
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