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Postby Vault 10 » Fri May 21, 2010 1:01 am

R2 Scout

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The Scout Rifle


In 1980s, a world-renowned expert in small arms, Jeff Cooper, expressed strong disappointment that contemporary rifles differed little from those made a century ago. He believed, in his own words, that advances in metallurgy, optics and plastics could make the rifle a handy, light instrument, that could do a great many things equally well.

According to Cooper's concept, a Scout Rifle should have the following characteristics:
* An unloaded weight, with accessories, of no more than 3 kilograms.
* An overall length of no more than 1 meter.
* A removable telescopic sight of low magnification, preserving peripheral vision, and without any risk of striking one's brow during recoil.
* Ghost ring auxiliary iron sights. Such sights should be usable as a full-time system, and not only a backup.
* A three-point Ching sling, increasing comfort and stability while firing.
* Chambering in a common and available caliber.
* Sufficient power to reliably defeat all reasonable targets. Cooper himself has been swaying between .308 and .375 calibers.
* Accuracy of 2 MOA or less groups at 200 meters.
* Good ergonomic characteristics, making the rifle easy to fire for any shooter.

Such a rifle is intended to be suitable for both civilian and military use. In civilian use, it is particularly suitable as a hunter's weapon, allowing it to be carried with ease, and as a moving target shooting rifle, light weight making it quick to aim. In military use, a Scout Rifle can be an excellent sniper weapon at most common ranges, especially so for special operations forces, where weight is at a premium. Most preferably, both needs should be served by the same rifle, supporting people's constitutional right to a well armed militia.

Cooper's call had not remained unheard by firearm manufacturers. Some of the biggest brand names in firearms - Steyr, Ruger, Savage, Springfield Arms - stepped up to the task. Indeed, a few rifles intended to fulfill Cooper's requirements were produced, such as Steyr Scout, Savage Scout and Ruger Frontier.
However, while excellent rifles in their own right, none have yet completely satisfied the requirements set forth by the concept, most commonly failing to meet the weight or length restrictions.

Indeed, Cooper's requirements, despite being formulated over 20 years ago, when interpreted without compromise, are highly challenging even in 2010. In order to produce a ready to fire system at 3kg, including two full-time sight systems, a sling support, and all required accessories, the rifle itself has to be barely heavier than 2kg. At the same time, this rifle has to be able to not only handle firing the powerful .375-inch magnum rounds, but do so with so little recoil as to be easily handled by any shooter, which means not only the well-experienced hunter, but also his daughter. None of this could be done at the cost of accuracy: while the 2 MOA requirement is rather relaxed, the Scout Rifle is expected to be frequently fired from standing position, in a very short timeframe, and deliver this accuracy in such usage.


R2 Scout


Where regular platforms could not achieve success, the R2 platform makes a logical choice for the task. Indeed, the stress-distributing, weight-saving construction could allow for finally meeting the mass restrictions, with the ARCS keeping recoil down and the reliable action reducing the training period.

At the same time, the R2 series was in need of an extension. The reason is that a number of militaries, for one reason or another, but usually simply for the lack of a dedicated DMR, have adopted R2S as a designated marksman rifle, rather than a specialist sniper only weapon. However, at a loaded weight of 7-10kg and with muzzle energies in excess of 20kJ, the R2S rather takes the niche of a long range sniper rifle, akin to the .408 M200, and even an anti-materiel weapon, its capabilities being is excessive for general marksman duties. Most requirements for a DMR and a Scout Rifle being very similar, R2 Scout can also be very useful in that role.

Based on the updated R2.1 platform, the Scout represents a new direction in the development of R2. It is simpler, lighter, easier to use and maintain, and more affordable than all previous weapons of the series. R2 Scout is limited to CL8-40 rounds rather than CL8-80, but this still exceeds Cooper's original requirements of .375 caliber performance.

At an early point in R2 development, the target price point had been set at $35,000, only $10,000 more than R1. This could not be achieved due to the technical limitations and complications, raising the price higher. With R2 Scout, a highly accurate, lightweight, very high performance weapon for $35,000 is finally available.


Simplification


For minimum weight, the R2 Scout is based on R2L chassis rather than mainline R2. R2L, the lightweight version, differs from mainline R2 in reduced use of high-tech alloys and metal matrix composites in favor of lighter and less expensive polymer matrix composites, specifically carbon fiber and carbon-aramide reinforced polymers.

In order to keep the weight further down, some systems that are of very limited use in a sniper rifle, have been removed. Specifically, some of the changes of R2 Scout from its parent R2L include:
* R2 Scout does not support fully automatic fire.
* Most EACS components have been removed from the rifle.
* The phase-shift barrel cooling system has been removed.
* Instead of an integral tensioning system, a free-floating tensioning sleeve is used.
* There are only two internal accessory channels, both half-length.

The least significant, but in reality the most controversial change, far exceeding the above combined in public reaction, was the removal of the backup mechanical ignition system from the rifle. It had been long overdue - the years of field experience with R1 and R2 have shown the electrical ignition system to be more reliable than its mechanical counterpart, and cases of malfunction to be rare. Furthermore, a large proportion of failures have been at least in part attributable to the rudimentary mechanical ignition system, which contains moving parts and requires significant tolerances, thus allowing dirt to get inside the places it normally couldn't, complicating the maintenance, and, in case of R1, being prone to going off when not required, damaging accuracy. In hindsight, it has been decreasing overall weapon reliability rather than improving it.

Unsurprisingly, this decision has caused an amount of outcry and bickering in the community, no lesser in scope than the one caused by removing LPT ports from motherboards, although a lot lesser in substance, since mechanical ignition, unlike LPT ports, does not provide any unique capability.

While the initial response of the Order of Knights to this outcry has been revolving around the highly helpful advice to "Get over it", the political power of the rather more traditionalist (and less educated) Order of Paladins, combined with customer-centered policies of ALC, have forced the Knights to pretend to implement a change in policy.

As such, the required fixed parts for the mechanical ignition system have not been removed, and the Scout can still be outfitted with it, via a custom order (for extra $1,000) or using a self-installation kit (extra $500). If it is not installed, the openings reserved for it are filled with removable thermoplastic seals, and the striker hole in the ignition system face is sealed with a soldered-in metal plug.

While the restriction on fully automatic fire can be circumvented by tuning the action control, doing so risks overheating and even round cookoff, as the Scout lacks the phase-shift cooling system characteristic of other R2 weapons.


Accurizing


While the rifle is simplified, all the above changes do not have a significant effect on accuracy, profound or adverse, under normal conditions. The accuracy improvements compared to the parent R2L come from a number of dedicated accurizing measures:
* A special competition trigger pull system is used, which can be tuned to sense very light amounts of pressure or changes in trigger pressure.
Tactile feedback has been improved to give clear indication of when the rifle is just about to fire.
* The full-size round loading piston, used in regular R2, up to R2S, has been replaced by a special low-resistance piston, with reduced diameter, lightweight construction and extra-low-friction travel, using only 35% of the original force.
* Unlike R2L, chambers for which are produced by truncating flawed R2 chambers, the Scout uses a custom-designed, custom-built chamber with thinner walls. While built using the same composite, the new chamber is 20% lighter than the one in R2L and almost twice lighter than the R2 chamber.
* Since the peak pressures are lower, the safety factor for the main action could be lowered. The barrel throat has been redesigned for reduced pressure, with a slight external flattening for round ejection and asymmetrical reinforcement compensating for it in the lower part.

The above measures, together with a local redesign of the feeding and ejection mechanism, have allowed to reduce chamber travel from 27mm in the original rifle to just 16mm. Additionally, since the Scout does not have to sustain automatic fire, it doesn't need a force reserve to push the heat-expanded chamber into the containment zone. Combined with a lighter chamber, it allowed for a reduction of forces and impulses involved in the reloading process to only 18% of those in the original R2. Now the entire cycle of manually moving the chamber down, feeding a full-size CL8-40 round, and returning the chamber to the firing position, including the mechanical losses, only takes 90 N*mm of energy. For comparison, pulling a regular trigger with 2 kg force and 1 cm travel requires about 100 N*mm.

This reduction in forces has several significant consequences:
- In semi-automatic and burst fire, forces in the automatic action are very small, improving precision for rounds after the first.
- In burst fire, the time required to reload is reduced, allowing for faster bursts.
- In self-cycling single fire mode, the action assist system could be significantly simplified.
- In single fire, cycling the action is unusually easy – enough that the entire process can be done without any aid of the left hand and without removing the index finger off the trigger, but rather just cycling the specially provided handle with the thumb. This provides, in Single Fire mode, true bolt action control and accuracy with just a small fraction of extra delay and effort.

As well as the R2S, the Scout is equipped with a barrel vibrations attenuator - a fully mechanical adjustable tension system that can change the barrel's inherent vibration frequency by altering the stiffness of its muzzle end attachment to the sleeve. With the attenuator set perfectly correct for the barrel and the round, the frequency is such that the angular deflection is zero when the bullet leaves the muzzle, thus greatly reducing the inaccuracy caused by vibrations.

Indeed, at 50-200m ranges, in static target and running target shooting, Scout has proven to be the most accurate of the R2 series, surpassing even the R2S, thanks to the ease of aiming and to the accurizing measures taken.


Applications


It should be noted that despite Scout's stellar performance at 200m distance, at long ranges the accuracy advantage is still steadily on the side of R2S, stemming from its raw power – a CL8-80 fired from R2S has 2.2 times more muzzle energy than the most powerful round available for R2 Scout. In practical military use, R2S also tends to maintain accuracy better due to its heavy-duty, abuse-resistant construction, as well as the general effects of additional weight.

As such, the Scout does not replace R2S or compete with it, but rather extends the advantages of the R2 technology into a number of fields where it has been long awaited.
* R2 Scout makes an excellent sporting rifle for any competitions where it is not banned by the rules. For instance, in biathlon, its light weight, compact shape, ease of carrying, excellent ergonomics and benchmark accuracy can give the athlete a number of competitive advantages, each of them small, but totaling to a chance for a higher position.
* While the regular R2 is an excellent weapon for hunting big and dangerous game, it is heavy and excessive for medium game hunting. R2 Scout offers a weapon for both medium and large game, and at a significantly lower price point, which matters in this market.
* In military applications, R2 Scout is currently, as the name implies, the ultimate Scout Rifle – a weapon for reconnaissance missions, where convenience is more important than absolute firepower.


Detailed Specifications


Barrel length: 630mm
Length, compacted: 820mm
Length, maximum: 960mm
Weight, empty: 2.40kg
Weight, with scope and bipod, loaded with 20 CL8-40 rounds: 2.90 kg

Fire modes: Safety, Manual, Semi-automatic, Burst
Selector type:
- 4-position main lever switch
- 3-position sliding secondary selector
- Infinitely adjustable pressure-sensitive trigger (3-position by default)

Caliber: CL8-25 or CL8-40

Rate of fire:
30 rpm in Manual Mode
60 rpm in Semi-Automatic mode (with 30-rd magazines)

Muzzle velocity: Round-dependent, up to 2,000 m/s
Muzzle energy: Round-dependent, up to 11,000 J (at low MV)

Accuracy, benchrested, with match-grade CL8-40:
0.25 MOA (10mm) at 100m
0.45 MOA (65mm) at 500m
0.70 MOA (200mm) at 1,000m
1.15 MOA (500mm) at 1,500m

Accuracy, practical:
0.5 MOA at 100 to 250m
0.8 MOA at 250 to 750m
1.7 MOA at 750m to 1500m
Derived from service testing by shooters with 5 to 10 years experience, year-round, low wind, good weapon condition, match CL8-25 and CL8-40 rounds used.

Accurate range:
1,200m with CL8-40
Defined as 400mm groups and sub-250mm CEP being achievable in practical low wind conditions.

Maximum effective range:
1,150m with CL8-25
2,100m with CL8-40

Armor penetration at 500m and 30 degrees:
With match rounds: NIJ class 3A
With armor-piercing rounds: STANAG level II … STANAG level III

Packages and Pricing

Minimum package
Includes the rifle itself, ARCK021 field cleaning kit, limited warranty.
Retail - $31,500
Large-volume orders - $30,000



Special offer – Scout Package
Includes:
- R2 Scout rifle
- Brotherhood of Steel MPTS-1 telescopic sight with 40mm objective, 2x-8x optical magnification, metal matrix composite chassis and carbon fiber reinforced plastic outer casing.
- Aramide three-point Ching sling
- 250mm lightweight bipod, convertible into VFG
- Stanhope survival knife with bayonet mounting provision (made in Pontinia)
- Field cleaning kit [#ARCK021]
- Main maintenance kit [#ARCK121]
- ARL-015D internal tactical light
- Lifetime supply of solid lubricant
- Servicing instructions and detailed information in digital form
- 4 reusable aramide reinforced plastic magazines – 10-round, 2x20-round, 25-round
- Rapid magazine reloading device and custom round casting die set
- Fiberglass storage and transportation case
- DIY-type lifetime warranty: only spare parts are covered

Price:
Retail - $35,000
Large-volume orders - $33,000


Deployment package
Includes:
- R2 Scout rifle
- A telescopic sight of customer choice:
- Kevlar three-point Ching sling
- 250mm lightweight bipod, convertible into VFG
- ARL-030D internal tactical light
- Integrated laser targeting system
- Stanhope survival knife with bayonet mounting provision (made in Pontinia)
- Field cleaning kit [#ARCK021]
- Main maintenance kit [#ARCK121]
- Lifetime supply of solid lubricant
- Servicing instructions and detailed information in printed and digital form
- 1 thin-film rechargeable accessory battery
- 1 lightweight clamp-terminated electric cord
- 6 reusable magnesium alloy magazines – 10-round, 2x20-round, 25-round, 30-round (CL8-40), 30-round (CL8-25)
- 6 reusable aramide reinforced plastic magazines
- Rapid magazine reloading device and custom round casting die set
- Fiberglass storage and transportation case
- Full lifetime warranty

Price:
Retail - $40,000
Large-volume orders - $38,000
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Postby Spectare » Fri May 21, 2010 1:10 am

From: Field General Alex Marshall
To: Brotherhood of Steel

Hello. After reviewing your product with allied nations and completing several internal investigations, we would like to purchase DPR's for your R2, R2C, R2GM, R2 Scout and R2S. We would also like to inquire about special training for our soldiers, we would like the transition from the AR-9 Shrec to the R2 to be as smooth and swift as possible.

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Postby Vault 10 » Fri May 21, 2010 1:13 am

R2.1 Platform-Wide Updates


While so far Scout is the only weapon on the R2.1 platform, in time, a more comprehensive shift is planned. This updated platform is not a revolutionary shift, like from older rifles to R1 or from R1 to R2, but rather a number of minor evolutionary changes across the primary and secondary systems. Not all changes will be described here, as some only involve minor detail without significant effect on performance.

Ignition system upgrade


Decidedly the most significant change involves the ignition system, but before describing it, it would help to explain in simple terms how exactly the system works, as well as destroy some misconceptions about it.
Normally, R2 contains two ignition systems: the mechanical backup (only compatible with regular rounds) and the analog electrical ignition system. Being analog means, in this regard, that it is not digital chips with firmware and software, which are commonly meant when referring to electronics. There are no such devices involved in the ignition system. Rather, the entire chain relies on simple discrete devices, most of them passive, for its operation. The following description oversimplifies some detail, and would certainly not satisfy a specialist, but it is intended to be easier to follow for most readers.

Background


The energy is produced when magnets, pushed by gas from the previous shot, move through a wire coil, exciting electrical currents, which, after passing through diodes to ensure a one-way flow, charge the supercapacitor. When the trigger is pulled, the supercapacitor is momentarily connected to the firing capacitor (which has less capacity, but works faster), filling it up in a fraction of a millisecond. Immediately afterwards, the firing capacitor discharges its energy into a spark inside a small hole in what in a conventional weapon would be the bolt face. This spark ionizes the air inside, turning it into plasma, and heats it to an extreme temperature. The same electrical discharge, combined with high pressure, accelerate the plasma out of this channel and into the round. It may appear to only be air, but pressure works the same way as if it was a needle hammered into the round, and instantly makes a hole in the propellant. A combination of heat and pressure starts a process of detonation or deflagration (depending on the composition), spreading rapidly from the initial line, and firing the round.

As can be seen, there is not only no need, but outright no place in this chain for some computer running windows, consulting internet databases, and performing complicated calculations. The system, while somewhat more complex than a button-operated cigarette lighter or an engine spark plug, uses the same principles.

By definition, it can be described as electro-thermal ignition, or ETI. There are, however, certain differences from the ETI and ETC systems used in some big guns. The system in R2 is not designed to prolong the combustion, but rather, primarily, to allow for propellants that could not be ignited normally.
Traditional primer ignition operates in a distinctly different way. The primer consists of a low-energy, but sensitive combustible composition, which starts to burn once the primer is hit by the striker pin. It generates a relatively large hot area inside the cartridge, and, should a grain of powder happen to be nearby (which it should), it catches on fire as well, spreading it all around the propellant charge.

One can spot two major differences here. First, with a primer, the starting point is a relatively large (up to a few percent) section of the cartridge, while primerless electric ignition starts in less than a cubic millimeter of space. Second, with a primer, the ignition method is purely thermal, and the heat is weakened by dissipating around the cartridge's volume; as such, the propellant has to be relatively heat-sensitive in order to be ignited that way. Electric ignition rather begins with a combination of extreme temperature and pressure, gradually decreasing and settling down to the more moderate propellant's burning temperatures. Such a method can work with a very wide range of propellants; for instance, a block of C4 will not explode if hit by a bullet or thrown into a fire, but it will respond to a combination of heat and pressure, such as created by this electric ignition system.

In the case of R1 and R2, the moving chamber does not dissipate the heat as well as fixed barrel-chamber assemblies do. The advanced cooling system in R2 has largely mitigated the issue, but in R1 the chamber could get literally glowing red with heat. Using typical caseless rounds in automatic weapons is risky already, as after a long burst they risk setting off prematurely. The reason is that a propellant has no way of telling where the heat is coming from, so if it is heat-sensitive enough to ignite when the primer is hit, it will do the same when the chamber is hot. There is no easy way to "teach it"; plastic cases (including fiber reinforced) are susceptible to melting and clogging to chamber walls, so metal cases are necessary, despite providing less insulation and contributing more weight. And indeed, R1 had to use ammunition in metal cases for fully automatic fire, compromising one of its main advantages.

These weight penalties and logistical issues were among the reasons behind the R2 project, which aimed to eliminate this problem. Just improving the cooling system was not enough, so a new propellant had to be introduced, that was not sensitive to heat, together with a new way of igniting it. The plasma jet ignition system, described above, was the solution. Additional advantages have been gained as well - the new propellant, being a solid explosive formulation rather than glued-together grains, is more energetic, mechanically stronger, and has no ways of absorbing water.


In light of the above, one could ask how does the backup mechanical ignition system in R2 work. The answer is simple; only low-power CL8-25 rounds have a primer compound in them. As a compromise, these rounds have to use a low-heat propellant, which provides substantially less energy, and the propellant's heat resistance still causes a large proportion (up to 5%) of duds when fired mechanically. However, as these rounds are not intended to be the most powerful, this is considered an acceptable compromise.

Nonetheless, overall, the mechanical ignition system causes more problems than it solves. There is nothing in the electric ignition system that can not be fixed in a reasonably clean tent using a soldering iron. Even the spare parts, in the unlikely case that one is needed, can be scavenged from a radio, unlike with mechanics, where a broken part can only be replaced by the exact same one.

Such a case is still unlikely, as the system has no sensitive parts that could be damaged by EMP. Neither is it sensitive to water - even if soaked in a saline solution, and if that solution gets inside the rifle through the waterproof seals, even if it then floods the airtight electrical compartment (which a user so incompetent as to fail to seal it has no reason to ever open), the rifle will still fire without failure, as the system's connections are sealed within their insulation. But should even the insulation be severely damaged, the system will still remain operable once the saline solution is drained - the currents involved are high enough to break any short circuit caused by salt deposits.
As such, the mechanical system is retained more as a psychological aid to the older generations rather than for practical reasons.


Issues


This obsession with electrical reliability was not without its price, however. The analog electric ignition system of R2 remains prone to some issues that could be easily solved in a digital system. Upon reading the description, it is easy to see that there is no feedback; the system has no knowledge of its condition.

In theory, confirmed by lab experiments and field testing, the plasma jet generating channels are immune to clogging - any dirt or fouling that gets inside is evaporated and ejected on the next shot; the system does not care what to turn into plasma. About the only thing that can stop it from working is completely plugging it with a tight-fitting piece of metal, which can't possibly happen occasionally.

Unfortunately, this is exactly what happened. More dangerous than dirt, fire, water, shocks and even time are fools - when the rifle started to be exported in the millions and often issued to often underqualified troops, a large number of users decided to disregard (or rather sleep through) the steps 5.03 and 5.05 of the maintenance training and clean the (self-cleaning) firing system with any handy tool, including metal brushes and needles. Occasionally breaking off in the nozzle, they left metal rods necessary to clog the system inside. During the next firing, metal's low resistance and high density caused it to merely melt, but not evaporate.
Since the other 5 ignition channels still worked, the rifles kept firing, but the difference in propellant combustion speed resulted in a slightly lower muzzle velocity, which in turn made the bullets fall low of the target. As the problem appeared to be with the sight, it was patched by zeroing it again, and later, when the rifle finally managed to clean the channel, it rather started to hit high.

Such behavior ended up in warranty claims, which would be promptly rejected with a charge applied, if not for the Full Warranty conditions explicitly exonerating the customer from liability for unintentional internal damage. More significant than the cost of properly cleaning a few (thousand) rifles a year, however, was the damage to weapon's reputation, as the perpetrators would rather blame the manufacturer than admit their fault.


This is not the only factor that negatively affected the accuracy. Everything that appears simple usually has a lot of underlying complexities (though everything that appears complex tends to be even more complicated in reality), and the process of firing a cartridge is no exception. The simple answer of "seal the chamber, burn the powder, let it push the bullet" actually consists of three very difficult questions about how to seal the chamber, how will the powder burn, and how to make sure the bullet leaves the muzzle at the desired velocity, not slower or faster.

In a traditional rifle, the barrel and the chamber are usually the same piece of metal, and in the rear the chamber is sealed by the bolt, inherently providing a good seal. R2 has no such luxury; the chamber is open at both ends. In the front, the seal is provided by the gas pressure simultaneously pushing the chamber forward and the receiver backward. In the rear, however, the gas pressure is rather working to stretch the receiver and move the ignition surface away from the chamber. With the strong fiber-reinforced composite brace resisting the pressure, the deflection is reduced to just a few micrometers. However, as the chamber heats up, it expands, and this expansion happens much faster than the receiver's expansion; this requires the gap to be noticeably wider, in order to allow a hot chamber to fit. As such, the seal is the tightest when the weapon is near overheat, and the loosest some time after that, when the chamber has cooled down, but the receiver has just heated up.

Temperature affects all aspects of firing. The propellant burns with a different speed when hot, also affecting muzzle energy. If the bullet is much colder than the barrel, it faces less friction, increasing its velocity; if the barrel happens to be cold, the bullet leaves it at a lower speed.

Since the need to use high-precision single fire right after fully automatic fire comes up rarely (unlike the reverse), this is not a major issue in military use; mostly so, though, rather because the skill of the average soldier is far below that necessary to even notice any effects of temperature on the rifle.

It can become an issue in competition use, however. When speed shooting at a large number of targets, the rifle is subject to a degree of thermal stress comparable to intermittent automatic fire, while the athlete cannot afford neither this accuracy decrease nor the time to compensate for it.


Solutions


The first change in R2.1 involves the chamber sealing system. As mentioned, the issue is that the seal tightens with heat, requiring extra clearance when cold. Making the chamber out of a material with zero thermal expansion would require it to be substantially heavier. So, the reverse was done: increasing the thermal expansion coefficient of the receiver behind it. The upper part of the ignition plate in R2.1 is an alloy block with a high thermal expansion coefficient, going all the way up to the brace that holds it in place. As it heats together with the chamber, it follows its expansion, moving the ignition plate away to give more space for the chamber.

This allowed for a decreased clearance, while maintaining a consistent seal, as well as reduced the forces required in the action, since there is no longer a need to force the chamber into position. A decreased clearance also has other advantages: the chamber cools faster, since the contact with the receiver is better, and the amount of fouling in the main action compartment has been significantly reduced.


Adaptive Ignition System


But the major change promised all along is the inclusion of the Adaptive Ignition System (further referred to as AIS). To implement it without compromising the (sort of) bulletproof reliability of the old analog ignition circuit, the number of ignition channels has been increased from 6 to 8. Four of them belong to the old analog system, but can be activated by the AIS, and four are controlled entirely by the AIS.

In order to solve the rare (but annoying) issue of clogged ignition ports, AIS adds a pre-burn stage to the ignition cycle. Pre-burn is initiated whenever the safety is switched off; whenever a magazine is changed; or whenever the trigger is partially pressed and no round is chambered (a full pull of the trigger will still cause the analog ignition system to activate). To perform the pre-burn, a small, 1-2J charge is sent to all ignition ports. This charge cleans the ignition ports of residue and probes their resistance. If the resistance proves too low or too high, a series of further charges is sent in an attempt to clear the port.
If that does not succeed, the system turns on a warning light in the scope (if supported) and attempts to compensate for the clogged port by increasing power to the two nearest ports.

Another improvement added by the AIS is temperature compensation. Using three sensors detecting the temperatures of the chamber, the barrel, and the magazine, it calculates the effects on muzzle velocity and attempts to compensate by varying the power of its ignition modules to increase or decrease the initial burn speed. This adjustment takes into account the round type - magazines already differ in their locking systems, and push appropriate plates in the rifle when inserted.


The easiest way to implement AIS would be via a computerized controller similar to the DACS. However, one does not simply walk with a computerized weapon in a land where nuclear explosions struggle to make a footnote in the morning news. Whether silicon or gallium arsenide based, complex integrated circuits respond to high-intensity EMP in the same way, that of being their last response. Neither is the easiest way the only one - AIS doesn't do anything that hasn't been done long before the invention of computers. The system, still mostly based on discrete elements with a few low-integration modules, is a combination of analog and digital logical components, each used where best suited. Overall, its computing power could be described as well exceeding an abacus, but lacking the bite to compete with analytical machines.

The addition of the AIS has allowed for improved control over the firing modes - and, simultaneously, a simplification of the main ignition system. The trigger is now just a simple on/off switch as far as the MIS is concerned, specifically the maximum pull being "on" and anything else "off". Any lesser degree of pull rather operates the AIS.


Fire control


As can be seen in the specifications sheet, R2 Scout has three elements used for fire selection:
- 4-position main lever switch
- 3-position sliding secondary selector
- Infinitely adjustable pressure-sensitive trigger (3-position with default settings)

This produces a number of possible combinations, in theory up to 12, or 36 counting trigger pull force. In practice, not all of the 12 main combinations are used, and the settings duplicate, mostly for the purpose of various trigger behavior. In particular, the secondary selector position 3 is rarely used, as it requires a separate motion to select; actually, most shooters keep the secondary selector in the same position more than 90% of the time.

The default configuration of the firing modes is this:

Safety 1 – Chamber in lower position, ARCS pistons parked.
Safety 2 – Chamber in lower position, ARCS pistons free, charging accessory batteries from free motion.
Safety 3 – "Unstable safety" – chamber in upper position, ready to fire. Switches to Manual 3 automatically if the rifle is brought to a firing position, with proper grip, and the trigger is partially depressed.

Manual 1 – Action is cycled manually with a handle, operating for all practical purposes as bolt action.
Manual 2 – Action can be cycled either manually or by EACS, activated by either heavy trigger pull at the previous shot or by lightly depressing the trigger, electrically.
Manual 3 – Only used for automatic switching from Safety 3. Actual behavior can be wired by the user to be any other firing mode.

Semi-Auto 1 – Action is cycled mechanically after each shot, with reduced force (marksman mode).
Semi-Auto 2 – Action is cycled mechanically after each shot, with full force and speed (speed shooting mode).
Semi-Auto 3 – Same as Semi-Auto 1, but heavy trigger pull produces rapid 2-round bursts.

Burst 1 – Same as Semi-Auto 2, but heavy or long trigger pull produces slow 3-round bursts.
Burst 2 – Medium trigger pull produces rapid 2-round bursts, heavy pull rapid 3-round bursts.
Burst 3 – Always rapid 3-round bursts.

Except for the safety modes, all modes can be rewired to perform in any way (the procedure actually involves switching wires, not reprogramming, as the main ignition system is not digital). In additional, the behavior of the trigger at medium and light pull can be customized with the AIS. Further degrees of control are possible if DACS is installed.

Some of the developers had proposed installing a separate fire rate selector, like on R2GP and R2LM, which would smoothly control the fire rate by altering the delay between ignition system firing. However, R2 already having a significant number of controls, and the Scout being proposed as a simpler version, it was disputed, and the ultimate decision was to offer it as a no-cost option. In future variants, a separate selector is likely to be found.
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Postby Vault 10 » Sat May 22, 2010 1:51 pm

Spectare wrote:From: Field General Alex Marshall
To: Brotherhood of Steel

Hello. After reviewing your product with allied nations and completing several internal investigations, we would like to purchase DPR's for your R2, R2C, R2GM, R2 Scout and R2S. We would also like to inquire about special training for our soldiers, we would like the transition from the AR-9 Shrec to the R2 to be as smooth and swift as possible.

Signed with respect
Field General Alex Marshall of the Spectarian Defense Forces



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From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Field General Alex Marshall,
Spectarian Defense Forces,
The Empire of Spectare


Greetings and salutations.

Your request for production rights has been approved. We shall transfer the technologies, required data and production specifications for all weapons of the R2 family immediately, and assist with constructing the production lines.

As for the training procedures, we have prior experience providing it to the troops of the Confederacy of Sovereign States. In that case, the cost, including equipment used for initial training, live fire and laser simulation firing ranges, ammunition expended, maintenance and repair training kits, and instructors for all required tasks totaled to $20,000 per soldier.


Yours faithfully,
Knight Delmar.
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Postby The Eagleland » Sun May 23, 2010 2:42 am

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To:Knight Delmar
Brotherhood of Steel


The Armed Forces of the Empire of the Eagleland,aquainted with the R2 weapons platform,are exprssing their gratittude to your effort on making this wapon system.More notably,the accuracy of these weapon systems is something first heard in our armed forces.As such,when we have received word of a new scout rifle available,this has stuck like a nail to our eyes.

To determine the effectiveness of this weapon system,we are ordering 2 Retail versions of the minium package.The rifles will be tested aganist other scout rifles in our arsenal,to determine whether it is the best one available on the market,and,should the test results be satisfying,we will order more in the future.

Signed,
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Orthodox Empire of the Eagleland
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Sun May 23, 2010 6:09 pm

HUGE MISTAKE OF BLUTH CORPORATION
Purchase Order: BC-MIL-01-81-01
Authorization: Jeffrey Millikin (05825)/Henry O'Keefe (05531)/Brian Quimby (03714)/Reggie Wayne #87 (02246)/Peyton Manning #18 (02549)

450,000 R2L (Deployment Package) @ $56,700: $25,515,000,000
27,000,000,000 rounds of CI8-15L ammunition @ $0.18: $4,860,000,000
Total: $30,375,000,000
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From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Minister John Moutsanas,
Ministry of Defense,
Orthodox Empire of the Eagleland

Greetings and salutations.

We will supply 2 units of R2 Scout for testing and evaluation.
In addition, considering our history of working with you, we will provide 2 prototypes of R2LM Light Machinegun, currently under development, at no additional cost.

Yours faithfully,
Knight Delmar.



From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: BLUTH CORPORATION

Greetings and salutations.

Your order has been processed and approved. We will be able to provide this armament within two months, delivered by airlift with the first delivery within a week.

Yours faithfully,
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Postby Dystopianus » Tue May 25, 2010 6:47 am

From: Citzen # 0000000034, Dystopianus Ministry of Armed Forces
To: Brotherhood of Steel

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. The name is #0000000034, administrator at the Dystopian ministry of military.

Just a few months ago, the Fort 9 (Dystopian goverment) has unveiled a major change in the Dystopian military. Before the Dystopian Missile Crisis, Dystopianus had a very large force of armed warriors without any armour or training, their only gear was a standard service rifle and a little propeganda. Although these "quantity tactics" have served us well, there were a few problems. The most important was logistics. It's difficult for such a small country as Dystopianus to maintain such a large army with food and ammunition. 40% of all casualities in this crisis didn't die by enemy fire, but by hunger. Now that the entire Dystopian land is finally recovering from the devestation that raged years ago, it's time to learn from our past. And we start with rebuilding our armed forces.

Instead of more then 100.000 individual soldiers without any training at all, we have decided to focus on smaller groups of elite forces instead with every soldier having at least 2 years of practice before they are sent in the field. These elite soldiers need to be equipped with the best gear available, and this is where the world's most high-tech small-arms manafacturer comes in.

We have several functions that need to be employed. At first, we need a weapon for a small (2-4 men) recon force, and we belive the R2 Scout is best for this. We would like to purchase 32 R2 scouts. Second, there is need for an assault rifle\battle rifle for our regullar forces, and we would like some advise on which model would be best to fullfill this role; the service rifle, carbine, or assault variant. At last, we need a medium machine gun, but we want to compare peformance with other weapon systems first before we go over to buy the R2 machine gun.
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Postby Tyrrin » Tue May 25, 2010 11:58 am

To: Knight Delmar, Brotherhood of Steel

We wish to express our thanks for creating such a marvelous weapon system. Due to the advanced nature of the R2 system, our forces obtained an extensive advantage on our less advanced, though numerically superior, enemies in the ongoing May Day War.

However, we wish to express concern over the removal of the mechanical ignition system in your more recent models. With the advancement in EMP technology in the world today, will this create a problem with the weapon's effectiveness against enemies armed with this technology in the future, or is this even a legitimate concern?

Sincerely,
Patrik Harris
Minister of Commerce

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Postby Vault 10 » Tue May 25, 2010 3:55 pm

Dystopianus: I've checked your posts (standard practice, that's why orders take a while to clear) and found nothing outside the bounds, but just in case, if you're IC engaged in slavery operations, please tell. (At least if there was a chance someone with a proper intelligence network could suspect it.) There's no alignment check policy, but slavery is where the line is drawn. Just checking, for there was a mishap with one nation.


From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Patrik Harris
Minister of Commerce

Greetings and salutations.

I believe your concern to be unfounded. It is true that EMP weapons can cause damage to electronic systems. However, not all electronics are the same. The ability of EMP to cause damage is determined primarily by three factors: antenna efficacy, damage threshold voltage and damage threshold energy. Antenna efficacy determines how much EMP power is transferred to the device, and damage can only occur if voltage and energy from the antenna exceed both of the latter two values.

For instance, a 32nm CPU can have damage threshold energy of less than 1 microjoule (1/1,000,000 of 1J), with a threshold voltage as low as 2.5-3 volts. If mounted inside a communication device, like a cell phone, it becomes an easy target.
On the opposite end of the scale, a power station's transformer can also be affected by EMP damage - but the threshold voltage is millions of volts, and the threshold energy tens of kilojoules. Even with an antenna as large as overhead power wires, it can be for all practical purposes considered invulnerable to EMP.

To estimate the significance of EMP damage factors, the delivery method has to be considered. There are three ways of producing an electromagnetic pulse.

The first way is purely electronic: apply a reusable electronic transmitter. It is a clean way of generating EMP, with no side effects, but the strength of the impulse thus produced is barely sufficient to damage anything outside the building required for housing a generator and a transmitter required.
The second way is a flux generator driven by a conventional explosive. It produces considerable EMP damage with moderate collateral damage from the explosion, and is an effective way of disabling TV and radio stations with minimal casualties.
The third way is producing a broadband pulse by utilizing Compton Scattering in the atmosphere by potent gamma rays, i.e. a nuclear explosion. It can results in an electromagnetic pulse of extreme magnitude, disabling everything with a radio antenna or a semblance thereof.

In case of R2, the weapon does not use integrated circuit based electronics. The basic firing system is passive - wires, resistors, capacitors, inductors, switches. Not fragile semiconductor elements, but just wires. To damage them, the copper of the wires themselves would have to be melted. It requires high voltages (thousands of volts) and high energies (hundreds of joules).

Achieving these levels within R2 would be difficult due to the lack of explicit or hidden antennas. It can be done within a specialized EMP testing laboratory chamber. It can also be done using an explosive flux generator, but the weapon would have to so close to the explosion that anyone holding it would not even be killed by the explosion, but rather by the physical impact of the bomb on.
At a meaningful distance, such energy levels can be achieved with a thermonuclear explosion. However, at such a distance, the troops would have all their communications disabled, their camouflage and exposed skin burnt by the thermal pulse, the shockwave would cause significant immediate casualties unless very good cover was present, and the amount of ionizing radiation received would be fatal even with military NBC or CRBN protective gear. Some risk of weapon malfunction in such a situation is not likely to be a major concern.

Summarizing, anything producing an EMP powerful enough to destroy the electrical ignition system of R2 would also have more than enough power to kill anyone holding it. In certain environments (lab conditions), it would be possible to disable the weapon without killing the shooter, but the effort required to do that is far in excess of that required for a simple hard kill, and as such not militarily relevant.

Of course, some of the more sophisticated modules, such as the night vision sight, the logging module, and, if used, DACS (which is rarely used in the military version due to this exact concern) are significantly more vulnerable to EMP than the basic ignition system, but they also have sufficient hardening to have a low risk of damage from non-nuclear EMP charges.

Yours faithfully,
Knight Delmar.
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Postby Dystopianus » Wed May 26, 2010 6:42 am

IC: Well, it depends on your definition of slavery. Although Dystopian citizens don't have much to choose on their profession, they get paid enough to maintain a standard living, they are not traded, and they are not hurt if they don't work fast enough, (no slave drivers with whips or something). Also, citizens are not someone's property.

Admitted, Dystopianus is by far not the nicest nation in the world (the clue is in the name, Dystopianus). But at least we do not have slavery in our nation.

OOC: I am personally fully against slavery. In fact, I am fully against just about everything in Dystopianus. For a more accurate view on my political ideology, see Andorianus.

IC: So, now that that is out of the way, can our order continue?
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Postby Vault 10 » Thu May 27, 2010 12:41 pm

OOC: Yeah. I'm not into personal morality checks, and IC the national belief is that all economic systems have the right to existence so that the best ones survive. However, there's no way IC that the Brotherhood (about the only organization in VT with some morality; the nation is not a straight-up dystopia, but very hardcore) would make deals with a slaver or outright psychotic nation. So upon noticing the mention of being evil and not finding anything particular in a post search, I decided to ask directly.


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From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Dystopianus Ministry of Armed Forces

Good day and good tidings.

The order for R2 Scout has been approved; we can ship them immediately, and if you attach the measurements of the intended users, the weapons can be built or picked from the current stock with appropriate ergonomics.

For an assault/battle rifle, the optimal model is the baseline R2. R2L is a lighter variant intended as a specialized assault rifle, with heavily reduced capabilities in other uses (as SAW or DMR).
As for the medium machine guns, the optimal option available is the R2GM GPMG, which can fulfill the MMG role, approaching the HMG territory in terms of firepower with 8-63 rounds, but with GPMG portability.

With sincere regards,
Brother Stanwood.
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Postby Dystopianus » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:56 am

To: Brotherhood of steel.
From: #0000000034, Dystopianus.

Excellent. We are very pleased that our order can continue. To provide some more detail: we would like 21 of the R2 scout rifles with extended battery accesoires, and the remaining ones with solar auxillary systems. We want all R2 Scouts with a 6 lock intergrated silencer too.

Now that we have more information on the R2 rifles, we would like to purchase 700 R2 Service rifles, all with extended batteries and the advanced optics. How much would this cost us?
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Postby Vault 10 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:43 am

BoS

From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Dystopianus Ministry of Armed Forces

Good day and good tidings.

The cost for 700 R2 Service Rifles, in the Deployment Package, would be $53,340,000, and an additional $140,000 for extended accessory batteries (rechargeable).

If you intend to use R2 Scout with the Soundlock system, please keep in mind that only the single-stage variant can be installed on it. The triple-stage variant is too large and bulky for R2 Scout, and is not necessary anyway, as it is primarily intended to allow for silent automatic fire.

With sincere regards,
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Postby Dystopianus » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:49 am

Vault 10 wrote:
BoS

From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Dystopianus Ministry of Armed Forces

Good day and good tidings.

The cost for 700 R2 Service Rifles, in the Deployment Package, would be $53,340,000, and an additional $140,000 for extended accessory batteries (rechargeable).

If you intend to use R2 Scout with the Soundlock system, please keep in mind that only the single-stage variant can be installed on it. The triple-stage variant is too large and bulky for R2 Scout, and is not necessary anyway, as it is primarily intended to allow for silent automatic fire.

With sincere regards,
Brother Stanwood.


From: Citizen #000000000034, Ministry of Armed Forces, Dystopianus.
To: Brother Stanwood, Brotherhood of Steel, Vault 10.

We agree with the offer for the the 700 R2 Sevice rifles, and thus the money has been wired along with a list regarding the user's dimensions. We would like to know how much the R2 Scouts with two-stage soundlock would cost us, before we go over in purchasing them.
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Postby Vault 10 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:30 am

BoS

From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Dystopianus Ministry of Armed Forces

Good day and good tidings.

I presume you mean the single-stage system, since there is no two-stage one. In that case, the cost will be $1,280,000 for the rifles ($40,000 each with Deployment Package), $384,000 for the Soundlock systems, $126,000 for 21 ARPS-05A solar auxiliary power systems and $2,200 for 11 extended batteries, for a total of $1,792,200.

With sincere regards,
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Postby Dystopianus » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:15 pm

To: Brother Stanwood, Brotherhood of Steel.
From: Citizen #000098716327, Dystopianus ministry of armed forces.

Excellent. The money will be wired tomorrow. A list regarding the user's dimensions will be wired soon.

Meanwhile, on advise of military strategists, we might consider expanding our armed forces soon. Expect more orders from us soon.
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Postby Reformed Britannia » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:17 pm

To:Brother Stanwood, Brotherhood of Steel
From:The Britannian Ministry of Defence

After carefully observing the R2 Advanced Infantry Armament System-which, quite frankly, is quite possibly the greatest example of high-tech small arms we've ever seen-we have deigned to make a purchase from your company, as our military intends on acquiring the absolute best equipment possible for use in foreign wars and domestic defence.

We wish to inquire if we might purchase the complete DPRs for the whole series of R2 weapons, to be paid over a certain amount of time, say 150 billion per year for 6 years? If this is unacceptable, we would gladly place a conventional order, located below.

If approved, this order will consist of 225,000 R2 Service rifles, 35,000 R2C Tactical Carbines, and 60,000 R2GM General Purpose Machine Guns, the R2s and R2Cs with the Deployment Package. If our calculations are correct, the total comes to 24,971,500,000 NSD, a price which we will gladly pay for such high quality weaponry.

We also wish to inquire if we might purchase the DPRs for the CL8-25, CL8-40, CL8-40FL and CL8-63 rounds if the complete DPRs are denied. If this is possible, we will add the required amount of money on to the total price of the order.

In the event that this order is approved, we look forward to doing more business with you in the future.
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Postby TarokShun » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:41 am

Brotherhood of Steel,


After extensive live-fire and laboratory simulation testing, both to confirm stated reliability and to determine variable specifications (accuracy, fire rate etc) based on our specific conditions and training, we have determined that your weapon series far surpasses our admittedly conservative expectations. As such, we wish to purchase full DPR for the full series not counting the R2-Scout (900 billion dollar value, to be payed over the next 8-15 years depending on where else our defense budget is needed). Should you feel us incapable of paying the price to your liking, feel free to say so. We have multiple combinations in mind in just in case.


People's Republic of Tarok'Shun
Departments of Foreign Affairs and Defense
Military Figures
Branch-Amount (Front Line) [Supply]:
Total-45,390,000 (17,281,250) [28,108,750]
Defence Brigade (Army)-6,461,000 (3,230,500) [3,230,500]
Navy-12,993,000 (4,331,000) [8,662,000]
Air Battle Corps (Air Force)-12,993,000 (3,248,250) [9,744,750]
Shock Battle Troops (Marines)-12,943,000 (6,471,500) [6,471,500]
Approximate Conversion to Active time: 3-7 months for total conversion

Defcon 5 4 3 2 1
5= No Conflict
4= Mild Skirmish
3= Small Battles
2= War
1= Full Force War

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Postby Vault 10 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:21 pm

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From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Reformed Britannia

Good day and good tidings.

We have reviewed your national information. As such, a Domestic Production Package (inc. DPR) can be provided to you. The six-year payment plan is also acceptable. We shall transfer the technologies, required data and production specifications for all weapons of the R2 family immediately.

Once the clearances are verified, our specialists will arrive to your nation together with the required equipment. They will assist with facility modification, equipment installation, initial production, and personnel training for future operation and maintenance.

With sincere regards,
Brother Stanwood.





From: Brotherhood of Steel
To: Departments of Foreign Affairs and Defense,
People's Republic of Tarok'Shun

Greetings and salutations.

I am glad you have appreciated the capabilities offered. We can provide you with the Domestic Production Rights. However, we would prefer if a fixed plan was selected. A 10 year plan should be satisfactory for both of us.
Production lines preparation can begin this year.

Yours faithfully,
Knight Delmar.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:39 am

Since I am in the middle of an RP, in which an EMP will be used to disable electronics, I have two questions.
1. Do the R2 rifle and its variants have anything to protect them from being disabled by an EMP?
2. Can you use the mechanical ignition system to fire the CL8 rounds?
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Postby Vault 10 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:08 am

OOC:
Apart from there being an OOC thread linked in the first post, would it be such a strange decision to check at least the last page of this thread? It has a detailed reply to another user asking the same thing.

The mechanical ignition system can be used with CL8-25 and some (regular, non-saboted) CL8-40.
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Postby Vault 10 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:41 pm

[OOC: Tech level notice]

The question of people using this weapon in inappropriate situations has been raised recently elsewhere, sparking a long and heated discussion. I wouldn't want to be the designer that facilitates such things.

If you have this weapon, please try to stay within the bounds of reason and fairness. While R2 does qualify as a high-MT weapon in general NS terminology, and while it could probably be built with current technologies, it is not strictly something that could believably be fielded by now in the real life. As such, it would not be fair to employ it for strict-MT roleplays which rely on currently fielded real-life equipment.

A general rule of thumb would be that if other participants of the roleplay are using custom-designed equipment that has noticeable performance increases over current RL equipment, you are in high-MT and R2 fits.
If your opponent fields body armor that can stop high-caliber rounds (larger than .308/7.62) and isn't unbearably cumbersome, R2 is fair game. If a war employs tanks with ETC guns, unmanned combat vehicles (not just recon UAV), infantry helmet-mounted displays and/or other things that clearly aren't out there in the real life, there is no reason to exclude this rifle.
If it's T-80s and M1A2s, Eagles and Fulcrums, M16s and AKs, you are in strict-MT and R2 will look like a laptop in a WWII reenactment - even if you have it, consider using your previous rifle or a RL weapon of your choice in such situations. Please reserve R2 for occasions that could realistically include it, just use some common sense to to tell one from the other.
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Postby Celis » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:47 pm

To: Brotherhood of Steel
From: Minister of Commerce
Subject: Purchase

How much would it cost to buy your company out right?
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Postby Krakadarek » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:54 am

We would like to purchase 1000 r-2 scouts and 5000 R2 Service Rifle,s for Black Berets special forces.
We use allot of rifles in our special forces but have a need for a new state of the art rifle of the special guards so they can better keep the regime intact and me there beloved leader alive.
Our nation only has a stable regime for 7 months and we hop to keep it that way.
We are very impressed by your excellent weapon and our soldiers are very eager to try them out.
You can deliver the weapons by submarine at our secret submarine base.*Location x*
Signed General Avrek of krakadarek.
Last edited by Krakadarek on Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
Krakadarek a large 3rd world nation with a big military budget and a lot off starving people.


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