Official Embassy of Ainur

[Emrys Mercer]

I'm expecting some heat, but can handle it. Glad to hear from you, Cormac. Ainur is mostly concerned with itself and it's allies, the rest can humor themselves and flame.

[The Sapientia]

I'm expecting some heat, but can handle it. Glad to hear from you, Cormac. Ainur is mostly concerned with itself and it's allies, the rest can humor themselves and flame.

A treaty with both Sicarius and TEK is gonna require serious work...

[Emrys Mercer]

Almost forgot, seeing as Sicarius has worked with TBR, we'd like to cancel any treaty discussions we may have been planning. I figured just not calling back would make it less awkward...

[The Sapientia]

You're an anti-TBR region?
I thought you were raiders in it for the sake of raiding... Kinda like us.

[Emrys Mercer]

Whoa, I never said that. I am Knight Commander, head of our military, and Steward, our Executive government minus ministers.

I am speaking from the positions of Steward and Knight Commander when I say that I am anti-TBR and while I lead our military and serve as our executive I will be against TBR, but I cannot speak on behalf of the entire region. The King and/or citizens may disagree with my stance, otherwise I would say we are anti-TBR. I do have the King's permission to speak of these things though and to be anti-TBR in my positions.

We may still raid in the future for the sake of raiding, and we still plan on helping allies with raid for the sake of raiding, but we are imperialist and are acquiring colonies and protectorates. We also will defend and liberate when we wish to.

TBR spammed Ainur with recruitment telegrams when Apollo tried destroying Ainur saying that Ainur was dead and to move with them. So, I see no ally in TBR.

[The Sapientia]

May I ask your reason for hating the Riders?

[Emrys Mercer]

May I ask your reason for hating the Riders?

I edited my post above to answer this, please refer to it. They attempted to prey upon a fellow raiding region in a time of weakness, so that's a fine example of their raider unity. Which is also something I'm against, by the way.

[JStalin]

May I ask your reason for hating the Riders?

I edited my post above to answer this, please refer to it. They attempted to prey upon a fellow raiding region in a time of weakness, so that's a fine example of their raider unity. Which is also something I'm against, by the way.

A raiding region? Didn't you just say you guys are imperialists, raiding and defending?

[Emrys Mercer]

We have always been tagged as imperialists, but never followed the tag until my tenure as Knight Commander. And at that time, we were pure raider. Again, only under my command have we been anything other than solely raider.

[Drop Your Pants]

So if you're anti-TBR how will you react when they charge into Austria (your new protectorate)?

[Emrys Mercer]

So if you're anti-TBR how will you react when they charge into Austria (your new protectorate)?

We'd do our best to liberate it or take it back, as we're working with the President, Austria United to secure it. And thank you very much for making sure every TBR nation on the NS forums sees Austria as a target, if they hadn't already.

And the status of a protectorate is a region we attempt to keep safe, and eventually refound (at least in the case of Austria). Is the fact that we're trying to protect a region that may be raided supposed to make me see the evils of raiding? If we're not strong enough to secure Austria now, then we don't deserve to call it a protectorate.

We'd be unhappy, but would work with allies to try and take it back.

[Coraxion]

Cimmerian Definitions for few words:

'Protectorate' = Region that can be protected, and not by forum Comments but by Game-Mechanics
'Imperialist' = Region/organisation capable invade and Keep these invasions there after i.e. making actual protectorates (= regions invulnerable to any attacks, under control of 'imperialists')
'Nativedom' = Any region, Including "Imperialist protectorates", who are defenseless against 'native uprisings' by Game Mechanics and Organisation
'Anti-TBR' = Region/organisation moderate enough to claim they do not see the Point of R, when TBR certainly sees that.
'Invader' = Region/organisation which is capable to perform invasions/Raids ('Defender' is only sub cathegory of R.)
'The Unity' = mythical never existing paradigm that 'Invaders' does not Raid other Invaders.
'The Practical Unity' = when people (regardless of Region/Organisation) join together and Actually make a Raid and crash the target region, which is then added to the ever increasing catalog of 'The Practical Unity's' Trophies.

Nobody can be 'Imperialist' in practice without an ability keep own 'Protectorates' safe against attacks. 'Anti-TBR' is the stance that claims there are something so wrong when 'Invaders' invade an 'imperialist' region, when in practice any Nativedom/Native Militia, or WA-RPer Squad with 2 WA-member nations can crush these so called 'Imperialist protectorates' without knowing anything about NationStates' Updates or anything then very basics about R/D gameplay tactics and Gameplay mechanics concerning these things. 'Imperialists' Never accuse those Native militias on what they do to defenseless 'Protectorates' but, if invaders attack those regions, there will be hellish media storm on 'Breaking The Raider Unity'.

This Implies that Term 'Anti-TBR' = 'Moderate' and Certainly not part of The Practical Raider Unity.

These very basic essential things are reason why Cimmerians are 'Purists'.

Edits: most obvious typos for me. 600th Forum Comment.

[Emrys Mercer]

I'm not explicitly anti-TBR. I think TBR are dicks, but I'm not against them for tagging or raiding. And we've secured The Caucasus, by refounding it. Austria we hope to hold long enough to attempt a refound, but they will keep their own government. We just want credit for helping, if we can.

[Drop Your Pants]

And thank you very much for making sure every TBR nation on the NS forums sees Austria as a target, if they hadn't already.

I'm a bit like a defender version of Mall, there's no fun unless someone is annoyed

[Emrys Mercer]

And thank you very much for making sure every TBR nation on the NS forums sees Austria as a target, if they hadn't already.

I'm a bit like a defender version of Mall, there's no fun unless someone is annoyed

I didn't know that defender came in sadist, I thought it was like the raider models, for the lulz, and moralfag.

[Emrys Mercer]

Cimmerian Definitions for few words:

'Protectorate' = Region that can be protected, and not by forum Comments but by Game-Mechanics
'Imperialist' = Region/organisation capable invade and Keep these invasions there after i.e. making actual protectorates (= regions invulnerable to any attacks, under control of 'imperialists')
'Nativedom' = Any region, Including "Imperialist protectorates", who are defenseless against 'native uprisings' by Game Mechanics and Organisation
'Anti-TBR' = Region/organisation moderate enough to claim they do not see the Point of R, when TBR certainly sees that.
'Invader' = Region/organisation which is capable to perform invasions/Raids ('Defender' is only sub cathegory of R.)
'The Unity' = mythical never existing paradigm that 'Invaders' does not Raid other Invaders.
'The Practical Unity' = when people (regardless of Region/Organisation) join together and Actually make a Raid and crash the target region, which is then added to the ever increasing catalog of 'The Practical Unity's' Trophies.

Nobody can be 'Imperialist' in practice without an ability keep own 'Protectorates' safe against attacks. 'Anti-TBR' is the stance that claims there are something so wrong when 'Invaders' invade an 'imperialist' region, when in practice any Nativedom/Native Militia, or WA-RPer Squad with 2 WA-member nations can crush these so called 'Imperialist protectorates' without knowing anything about NationStates' Updates or anything then very basics about R/D gameplay tactics and Gameplay mechanics concerning these things. 'Imperialists' Never accuse those Native militias on what they do to defenseless 'Protectorates' but, if invaders attack those regions, there will be hellish media storm on 'Breaking The Raider Unity'.

This Implies that Term 'Anti-TBR' = 'Moderate' and Certainly not part of The Practical Raider Unity.

These very basic essential things are reason why Cimmerians are 'Purists'.

Edits: most obvious typos for me. 600th Forum Comment.

These are roughly the definitions we were using, not to be rude, but the point of this post?

[Coraxion]

Had to rant something...

Ainur's self-designations 'Game Player' and 'Imperialist' are contradictory between each others, if Ainur is forced to take TEK-like approach of 'Anti-TBR' (essentially meaning 'Anti-Purist' here) approach to the gameplay, particularly to R/D. If this was caused by TBR's and other raiders'/invaders' actions against protectorates not protected that well, they cannot be attacked, that Moderate stance is understandable, but if it is only reason for 'Anti-TBR' stance, there exists something not fully though with self-designations 'Imperialist' and 'gameplayer'. If this refers only to RPing, then there aren't internal contradictions. However RPers can be GPers and vise Versa. But being GPer 'Imperialist' requires being also GPer 'invader' (hypocritical Invaders maybe = 'TEK-Like' and UDL) and that Imperialist 'protectorates' could be defended by Imperialists themselves.

Tags and declarations of Allegiance, LOL!

Cimmerians tend to think that if region could be attacked it is a target and it is essentially 'Nativedom', what ever more vocal advocates of 'The Raider Unity' may say about this (Not to attack against other invaders protectorates and regions even they are essentially 'Nativedoms') and this stance is not based on hazy principles, but the Reality of status of a target region, how Protected or defenseless these 'Protectorates' really are.

Accidentally bumbing your thread. Sorry.

[Bruhaha]

I sincerely hope Ainur chokes on a dick.

[The Sapientia]

I sincerely hope Ainur chokes on a dick.

Is this really needed?

[Bruhaha]

I sincerely hope Ainur chokes on a dick.

Is this really needed?

When someone is being that much of a cunt, and also using a bot to cheat and falsify manual recruitment, then yes.

[Bearon]

Just wanted to say Bru is not me.

[Emrys Mercer]

Had to rant something...

Ainur's self-designations 'Game Player' and 'Imperialist' are contradictory between each others, if Ainur is forced to take TEK-like approach of 'Anti-TBR' (essentially meaning 'Anti-Purist' here) approach to the gameplay, particularly to R/D. If this was caused by TBR's and other raiders'/invaders' actions against protectorates not protected that well, they cannot be attacked, that Moderate stance is understandable, but if it is only reason for 'Anti-TBR' stance, there exists something not fully though with self-designations 'Imperialist' and 'gameplayer'. If this refers only to RPing, then there aren't internal contradictions. However RPers can be GPers and vise Versa. But being GPer 'Imperialist' requires being also GPer 'invader' (hypocritical Invaders maybe = 'TEK-Like' and UDL) and that Imperialist 'protectorates' could be defended by Imperialists themselves.

Tags and declarations of Allegiance, LOL!

Cimmerians tend to think that if region could be attacked it is a target and it is essentially 'Nativedom', what ever more vocal advocates of 'The Raider Unity' may say about this (Not to attack against other invaders protectorates and regions even they are essentially 'Nativedoms') and this stance is not based on hazy principles, but the Reality of status of a target region, how Protected or defenseless these 'Protectorates' really are.

Accidentally bumbing your thread. Sorry.

It's no problem, actually nice to see the theory explained. Our military is anti-TBR solely by TBR's behavior toward Ainur, we've never held a protectorate or colony like we've had now, with the intent we have now. The most logical explanation I can give for our behaviors and beliefs is that we do what we believe benefits Ainur most, whether it be willing or unwilling incorporation of other regions into our control. We don't adopt the "Anti-TBR" or "TEK-like" sympathies.

[Emrys Mercer]

Is this really needed?

When someone is being that much of a cunt, and also using a bot to cheat and falsify manual recruitment, then yes.

This is not only crude, but also false. We buy stamps...

[Emrys Mercer]

Just wanted to say Bru is not me.

Just leave, William.

[Bearon]

Just wanted to say Bru is not me.

Just leave, William.

Sorry it's just kind of hard to ignore this when it keeps popping up at the top of my thread while I'm trying to run an RP.