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Children and Teens in your Nation's Military

Postby Seperate Vermont » Sun May 02, 2010 3:29 pm

Are they forced into service? Is it voluntary to the child? Is it propogandized? Is it suggested to Children throughout their Childhood that they should join when they are older?

Are your schools Military Camps?

^Please think about the above questions and be as specific a possible.
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Postby Zeppy » Sun May 02, 2010 3:30 pm

No, at the age of 16 may a person sign to the Zeppy Defense Force, with parental permission.

At the age of 18, he or she may enter the Zeppy Defense Force with their own will.

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Postby Swilatia » Sun May 02, 2010 3:33 pm

Nope. But then, there aren't any adults either.
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Postby Techno-Soviet » Sun May 02, 2010 3:35 pm

17 is the age one can join the Soviet Armed Forces with parental consent, 18 by themselves.
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun May 02, 2010 3:36 pm

14 for volunteers (normally garrisoned or logistics assistants)

16-21 conscription (DefCon1 wartime)

14-15 joiners are subject to mental age testing.
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Postby Communist Phanafia » Sun May 02, 2010 3:37 pm

12 is the lowest age that one can apply for the Phanafian Military. Please note that there is no draft unless serious national emergency and all soldiers join by choice.
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Postby Vesser » Sun May 02, 2010 3:38 pm

At 17, if you've graduated Primary School and haven't gone on to Secondary School, you get a draft card. If you graduate Secondary School (age 18) and do not go on to College, you get a draft card. After you complete College, you get a numbered Officer Card. The lower your education, the lower your number. The lowest numbers on the list get called first in a time of war.

Youngest age you can enlist is 17. Many people do.

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Postby Satirius » Sun May 02, 2010 3:39 pm

All 18-year-olds without college enrollment are conscripted for a year, and those conscripted at that age are the only teenagers in the Satirian military. College graduates are conscripted as soon as their education ends, but by then they're no longer teenagers, so the point is moot.
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Sun May 02, 2010 3:40 pm

If a child or tenager wants to join the military, they can. But it must be their sole choice and will, and joining the military is always voluntary: The Draft and Propoganda are illegal.

It has to do with equality: Although for the child's welfare they are kept away from front lines and combat.
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Postby Iron America » Sun May 02, 2010 3:42 pm

Military service is compulsory for at least 2 years in any service once a man turns 18. As children all attend a boy scouts like program that required for all youth from 5-15. In which they learn leadership skills,basic survival skills and how to be a good citizen. Once they turn 16 boys enter a ROTC like program for the particular service they desire. Once their 2 years is over they may continue in the military or they may enter other interests. However if war is declared then a draft is put in effect for boys/men ages 17-38.

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Postby The Adrian Empire » Sun May 02, 2010 3:48 pm

The Imperial Armed Forces will not hire any potential recruits under 14, and only with parental permission until 17 and only The Imperial Navy may hire under 17. That said many Imperial Children are often members of their local private militias, which act somewhat like Scouts Organizations, giving them basic survival skills, teaching them the proper use of a weapon etc.

Schools in the Adrian Empire are private, so whether or not they have a militaristic education varies on personal choice of the parent. However most conventional secondary schools offer classes in firearms training and military tactics.

Adrian Children are always encouraged to join the Imperial Armed Forces, it is a proud tradition, and service is required for citizenship.
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Postby Veneratis » Sun May 02, 2010 4:01 pm

no, the minimum age to enter military is age 20.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sun May 02, 2010 4:02 pm

Seperate Vermont wrote:Are they forced into service? Is it voluntary to the child? Is it propogandized? Is it suggested to Children throughout their Childhood that they should join when they are older?

Are your schools Military Camps?

^Please think about the above questions and be as specific a possible.

Decepticons are activated with basic knowledge pre-installed, and mental development is a LOT faster in comparison to humans. Keeping that in mind:

Often, our propaganda works so well that they try to join at 2, but we won't accept them until 3. This gives them more time to individualize. Those who serve before that often act drone-like quite a bit longer than they should. On the other hand, if they haven't joined by 4, we draft 'em.

As for the particular questions:

Yes, we have conscription.
No, it's not voluntary.
Yes, there is heavy propaganda constantly running to drum in the fact that to be a Real Decepticon, you must be part of the Military!
Yes, the above message is given from Day One of a Decepticon's life!

Yes, since standard knowledge is pre-installed, our "schools" are military camps - actual war-game participation teaches what pre-installed modules cannot; namely the ability to determine the best actions in situations that don't fit into neat little data packs. Due to the fact that there are no rules in these war games except that they be non-lethal, this practice also helps teach how to commit, and defend against, a whole bunch of Deceptive and Conniving practices.
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Postby The Grand World Order » Sun May 02, 2010 4:25 pm

Children do not serve in the GWO Armed Forces or the State Volontaris, period.

However, at the age of 14, children may enroll in ROTC classes and pre-military training. It should also be noted that many children's shows teach basic infantry maneuvers to viewers, after subliminally teaching them to be Fascists (the Government gives extra kudos to companies that do this, along with some slack regarding regulations, and sometimes even some wads of cash).

Civilian Militia (which is separate from the government), however, is a completely different thing. Children can sign up to join it at 13 with parental consent. After this, they will be expected to show up at the local CivMil training facility almost every weekend to train, then if the GWO homeland is invaded, they'll also be deployed to fight alongside the Armed Forces in the defense of the Federation, or, if a natural disaster occurs in the GWO, they'll be sent to help humanitarian and security efforts in the area.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun May 02, 2010 4:30 pm

It's just foolish to have children in the military.

We have teenage volunteers but we invariably send them to finish high school as their first assignment. They need a recommendation from their principal to be accepted into basic training.

We have more than enough volunteers without conscription, coercion or even persuasion. We can afford to be selective.

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Postby Tabytha » Sun May 02, 2010 4:33 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:It's just foolish to have children in the military.


Damn right it is, General, and thank you for sparing me from having to say as much. The professional military is a place for adults.

In times of grave emergency, such as invasion of the United States, it is generally understood that the most active role role children would be realistically allowed to play is as messengers and the like for Ready Militia units. Let them help, but keep them from harm.

- Major Nika Leonova, Recruitment Command, United States Army
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun May 02, 2010 4:38 pm

Tabytha wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:It's just foolish to have children in the military.


Damn right it is, General, and thank you for sparing me from having to say as much. The professional military is a place for adults.

In times of grave emergency, such as invasion of the United States, it is generally understood that the most active role role children would be realistically allowed to play is as messengers and the like for Ready Militia units. Let them help, but keep them from harm.

- Major Nika Leonova, Recruitment Command, United States Army


ageism...
a 14 year old is emo enough to depersonalise everything and not care if he's shot or what he shoots :p :lol:
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Postby Old Beringia » Sun May 02, 2010 4:40 pm

Children do not serve in our military however. At the age of ten male children are subjected to military training until the age of 18. For females, they have a choice to enter training at 13 and stay in the youth training corps until 18. After 18 males must serve one year in the military whenever they choose if they meet the criterion and females must also serve one year if they completed the optional youth training corps.

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Postby Tabytha » Sun May 02, 2010 4:44 pm

Novograd IV wrote:ageism...
a 14 year old is emo enough to depersonalise everything and not care if he's shot or what he shoots :p :lol:


Realism...

Right at the moment when that first 12.7mm bullet designed to pierce tempered steel goes ripping past you at God knows how fast, all that bullshit emo crap goes right along with it. You piss yourself, odds are you shit yourself, and there is a strong urge to run.

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Postby Novograd IV » Sun May 02, 2010 4:48 pm

Tabytha wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:ageism...
a 14 year old is emo enough to depersonalise everything and not care if he's shot or what he shoots :p :lol:


Realism...

Right at the moment when that first 12.7mm bullet designed to pierce tempered steel goes ripping past you at God knows how fast, all that bullshit emo crap goes right along with it. You piss yourself, odds are you shit yourself, and there is a strong urge to run.

- Major Nika Leonova, Recruitment Command, United States Army


dear god get this man a chill pill!
:D seriously, younger people are easier to mould, the younger thier training age, the better they adapt and the more they grasp.
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Postby Tabytha » Sun May 02, 2010 4:50 pm

Novograd IV wrote:dear god get this man a chill pill!
:D seriously, younger people are easier to mould, the younger thier their training begins, the better they adapt and the more they grasp.


Woman. I am a woman.

Easier to mold? They are also emotionally less stable, less developed, and often physically weaker, while we are at it. It also robs them of an important thing which all grown citizens of this nation are sworn to protect for them: the right to a childhood.

If we start sacrificing everything that we have, everything that we are, just to become more effective warriors, then our enemies have already won. We may as well all just stay home.

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Postby Novograd IV » Sun May 02, 2010 4:54 pm

Tabytha wrote:Woman. I am a woman.


must.... not.... use.... sammich.... joke....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

now, at 14, most emo kids have given up on thier lives anyway XD
why not add a few bullet shields? maybe they'll actually hit a target with the training they recieved
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Postby Old Beringia » Sun May 02, 2010 4:59 pm

Tabytha wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:dear god get this man a chill pill!
:D seriously, younger people are easier to mould, the younger thier their training begins, the better they adapt and the more they grasp.


Woman. I am a woman.

Easier to mold? They are also emotionally less stable, less developed, and often physically weaker, while we are at it. It also robs them of an important thing which all grown citizens of this nation are sworn to protect for them: the right to a childhood.

If we start sacrificing everything that we have, everything that we are, just to become more effective warriors, then our enemies have already won. We may as well all just stay home.

- Major Nika Leonova, Recruitment Command, United States Army


I beg to differ Major. Indoctrinating children with military training at a young age, not sending them into full fledged combat is probably more effective in the long run. So them being weak has almost nothing to do with it.

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Postby Tabytha » Sun May 02, 2010 5:00 pm

Novograd IV wrote:must.... not.... use.... sammich.... joke....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

now, at 14, most emo kids have given up on thier their lives anyway XD
why not add a few bullet shields? maybe they'll actually hit a target with the training they recieved


You obviously have not got the brains to realize how stupid you are. You do not know what it is you are talking about.

I fight to defend children, not to use them as meat shields, and if you are so colossally stupid as to be unable to realize the monumental importance of this duty, then you are not fit to command an ice cream truck, much less an army, or a nation.

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Old Beringia wrote:I beg to differ Major. Indoctrinating children with military training at a young age, not sending them into full fledged combat is probably more effective in the long run. So them being weak has almost nothing to do with it.

    -Imperator A. Miller, Commander of the Imperial Beringian Armed Forces


Tabytha does not indoctrinate anybody, not in that fashion.

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Postby The Grand World Order » Sun May 02, 2010 5:04 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
Tabytha wrote:Woman. I am a woman.


must.... not.... use.... sammich.... joke....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

now, at 14, most emo kids have given up on thier lives anyway XD
why not add a few bullet shields? maybe they'll actually hit a target with the training they recieved


The "emo" trend is an attention-grabbing method. It's not true- like Tabytha said, the moment a bullet flies by your head, all that bullcrap goes out the window. The "emo kids" haven't given up on their lives, they just want to be different and get attention like the little punk asses they are.
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