Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Type 6

[Dostanuot Loj]

Does anyone know how the engine in the Merkava is mounted? It's longitudinal right? And if so, does anyone know of a picture or video where they show the driver position, since it'd be limited width wise I would think? (at least that isn't the few second glance from the Future Weapons video)

Probably because they're not fast enough to make the tops of the tracks flap about and fall off. Soviet tanks of much gloriousness are designed to always move forward comrade!

I simply searched "merkava engine" on Google images on my phone and got what you need. They were the first two images.

My stupid phone won't let me link them here though. Grrr.

[Dat cua Tien]

Does anyone know how the engine in the Merkava is mounted? It's longitudinal right? And if so, does anyone know of a picture or video where they show the driver position, since it'd be limited width wise I would think? (at least that isn't the few second glance from the Future Weapons video)

I simply searched "merkava engine" on Google images on my phone and got what you need. They were the first two images.

My stupid phone won't let me link them here though. Grrr.

I have a picture showing the engine bay, which is much longer than it is wide which makes me believe it's longitudinal, as well as a picture showing it being removed and it's in that orientation, but nothing while it's in (though I guess that's probably still classified for some reason.) That's kind of is contradictory with the use the engine to save the crew I would think though, which is why I wanted to double check* (though I guess no one cares about drivers because they're easier to train than gunners and commanders.)

*though I'm really just trying to figure out what the driver's compartment is like, and if it'd be an acceptable layout

[Rich and Corporations]

Typical streets are about 8 meters wide, not including side walks. So, I think I'll need a gun barrel with side-overhang of no more then 3 meters.

Hmm.

[Dostanuot Loj]

I simply searched "merkava engine" on Google images on my phone and got what you need. They were the first two images.

My stupid phone won't let me link them here though. Grrr.

I have a picture showing the engine bay, which is much longer than it is wide which makes me believe it's longitudinal, as well as a picture showing it being removed and it's in that orientation, but nothing while it's in (though I guess that's probably still classified for some reason.) That's kind of is contradictory with the use the engine to save the crew I would think though, which is why I wanted to double check* (though I guess no one cares about drivers because they're easier to train than gunners and commanders.)

*though I'm really just trying to figure out what the driver's compartment is like, and if it'd be an acceptable layout

Its not classified. Nobody's bothered to post it. You can simply put two and two together with images of the power pack and engine bay. The drivers space is narrow and cramped, but fits one man.

The engine is not forward for crew safety and never was. In fact it makes the armour thinner. Its there to allow the crew to reload the tank hilariously faster And evac without being sprayed with MG fire when hit.

[Imperializt Russia]

I can't imagine the driver's station being any more cramped than the Leopard's where he's rammed up against the ammunition bin, can he?

[Paragania]

LT-20 Stallion

The LT-20 "Stallion" light tank was developed by the Delta-Dynamics as a private venture. The main goal was to meet the firepower of modern main battle tanks, but with greater tactical and strategic mobility. The first prototype of the LT-20 was completed in 1998. After extensive trials development of this light tank was finally completed in 2001. Despite that further improvements in a number of areas continued, especially electronics. The CV90120-T is being actively proposed for possible customers worldwide, however as of 2010 no production orders were placed on this light tank.

The LT-20 is armed with a fully-stabilized Swiss Ordnance 120-mm high-pressure low-recoil smoothbore gun. It fires modern NATO ammunition. A total of 48 rounds for the main gun are carried. Claimed maximum rate of fire is up to 16 rounds per minute. The LT-20 light tank is fitted with a computerized fire control system and stabilized day/night sights. The vehicle's integrated battlefield management system ensures situational awareness.

[Vetok]

Done the medium variant to my Cavalier light tank. Carries a 6-pounder in a remodelled turret which will also have a co-axial MG when I get round to it, and thus loses the awkwardly-placed hull mount MG from the Cavalier.

[The Kievan People]

If the tank is relatively still, then it would be no harder than hitting it with artillery, and artillery has been a tanks worst enemy since it's creation.

You are comparing the incomparable: A battery of guns firing a barrage of shells vs. a single mortar-armed tank destroyer trying to win shoot-outs with tanks.

[Kouralia]

If the tank is relatively still, then it would be no harder than hitting it with artillery, and artillery has been a tanks worst enemy since it's creation.

You are comparing the incomparable: A battery of guns firing a barrage of shells vs. a single mortar-armed tank destroyer trying to win shoot-outs with tanks.

What about an AMOS mortar with Strix guided AT rounds?

[The Kievan People]

That's cheating~~~

I still wouldn't do it though. In the time it takes for the shell to reach the tank, the tank could easily acquire and kill the mortar...

Mortars are absolutely fine for engaging tanks as long as they can't shoot back IMO.

Edit: If a TOW missile and a mortar had a high-noon shootout at 1500m. The TOW missile would probably win. Even if it shot second.

[Oaledonia]

What about CAS? I assume that it's safe to say if it comes from the sky, tanks don't like it

[The Kievan People]

What about CAS? I assume that it's safe to say if it comes from the sky, tanks don't like it

Sir, are you trying to imply planes are good at killing tanks(!)?

[Oaledonia]

What about CAS? I assume that it's safe to say if it comes from the sky, tanks don't like it

Sir, are you trying to imply planes are good at killing tanks(!)?

Yes. Including the ones that carry missiles and guns.

[Gallia-]

The best tank killing thing is a tank.

Oaledonia should just use lots of tanks.

[Kouralia]

The best tank killing thing is a tank.

Oaledonia should just use lots of tanks.

best tank killing think is helicopters

tom clancy's ent waaagh iz de truf

[Oaledonia]

The best tank killing thing is a tank.

Oaledonia should just use lots of tanks.

best tank killing think is helicopters

tom clancy's ent waaagh iz de truf

BLOS and Grid Smashers everyday JSF remove eurofags and vodka

[The balkens]

best tank killing think is helicopters

tom clancy's ent waaagh iz de truf

BLOS and Grid Smashers everyday JSF remove eurofags and vodka

Euro stronk, remove burger and vodka from premises.

[Ratmo]

Fa tank

[Yytuskia]

Here's an Update.

‘Panzerkampfwagen VIc ‘Tiger III’ Model ‘Jager’
Weight: 77.68 tonnes
Length: 6.316m
Engine: Maybach HL 230 TRM P87 (V12); 1,250HP; Max Speed of 65kph
Armament: 1x 12,8cm Ferguson Manufacturing L/70 ‘KampfwagenKanone’ 98 w/ Autoloader (52 rounds: Pzgr. 98 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Ballistic Capped / High Explosive Anti-Tank) Pzgr.RE 2/01 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Element 219 Filled), 2x 14.5x114mm MG-67H(One CROW-mounted, one turret mounted)
Armor: [Chassis: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor Adding w/ Depleted Uranium: 430mm/430mm/425mm)] [Turret: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/ 1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor Adding w/ Depleted Uranium) 330mm/330mm/325mm)
Radio: FuG 12 Model J.
Suspension: Leaf Coil Torsion Bar suspension
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Commander)
Armor Angling: 45 degrees on all sides of chassis, with 30 degree angling for turret
Purpose: The Panzerkampfwagen VI Model J, nicknamed the Tiger by crew members, is Yytuskia’s response to the modernization of other country heavy tanks. Replacing the out-dated ‘SchwergepanzertesKampffahrzeug 45’, which was designed in designed in 1945, the Tiger III outclasses it in every way; it has better armor, a bigger gun, and faster engine which outclass some modern tanks. Made in 1987, it is well liked by its crews for its sloped armor, added with the ‘Hans’ model, and it’s fighting capacity. Two Tigers could hold their own against both a T-90A and a M1 Abrams at the same time, and could fight them to a standstill. Around 7,889 Tiger III’s have been made only for the Loyalist Forces of Yytuskia.
Cost: $989,000USD per unit

[Connori Pilgrims]

Here's an Update.

‘Panzerkampfwagen VIc ‘Tiger III’ Model ‘Jager’
Weight: 77.68 tonnes
Length: 6.316m
Engine: Maybach HL 230 TRM P87 (V12); 1,250HP; Max Speed of 65kph
Armament: 1x 12,8cm Ferguson Manufacturing L/70 ‘KampfwagenKanone’ 98 w/ Autoloader (52 rounds: Pzgr. 98 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Ballistic Capped / High Explosive Anti-Tank) Pzgr.RE 2/01 (Armor Piercing, Composite Ridged, Element 219 Filled), 2x 14.5x114mm MG-67H(One CROW-mounted, one turret mounted)
Armor: [Chassis: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor Adding w/ Depleted Uranium: 430mm/430mm/425mm)] [Turret: 1,645mm/ 1,640mm/ 1,640mm (Spaced Composite, Reactive Armor Adding w/ Depleted Uranium) 330mm/330mm/325mm)
Radio: FuG 12 Model J.
Suspension: Leaf Coil Torsion Bar suspension
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Loader, Commander)
Armor Angling: 45 degrees on all sides of chassis, with 30 degree angling for turret
Purpose: The Panzerkampfwagen VI Model J, nicknamed the Tiger by crew members, is Yytuskia’s response to the modernization of other country heavy tanks. Replacing the out-dated ‘SchwergepanzertesKampffahrzeug 45’, which was designed in designed in 1945, the Tiger III outclasses it in every way; it has better armor, a bigger gun, and faster engine which outclass some modern tanks. Made in 1987, it is well liked by its crews for its sloped armor, added with the ‘Hans’ model, and it’s fighting capacity. Two Tigers could hold their own against both a T-90A and a M1 Abrams at the same time, and could fight them to a standstill. Around 7,889 Tiger III’s have been made only for the Loyalist Forces of Yytuskia.
Cost: $989,000USD per unit

Remove the APCR and APCRBC(?) rounds, gun needs APFSDS

[Yytuskia]

Roger!

[Anemos Major]

(Image)

Done the medium variant to my Cavalier light tank. Carries a 6-pounder in a remodelled turret which will also have a co-axial MG when I get round to it, and thus loses the awkwardly-placed hull mount MG from the Cavalier.

How many crew members does this tank have?

[Vetok]

(Image)

Done the medium variant to my Cavalier light tank. Carries a 6-pounder in a remodelled turret which will also have a co-axial MG when I get round to it, and thus loses the awkwardly-placed hull mount MG from the Cavalier.

How many crew members does this tank have?

Probably four; driver, radioman/loader, gunner, commander. Since the Cavalier has the radioman hunched in a standing position to work the hull MG I figured it's probably an acceptable tradeoff to have him loading the 6-pounder. Nobody has ever accused Vetokites of being well-versed in warfare, and unlike most people I don't really have much in mind of a NS WWII to go off.

Presuming I don't just redo the Cavalier and the Accomplice with larger hulls.

[San-Silvacian]

(Image)

Done the medium variant to my Cavalier light tank. Carries a 6-pounder in a remodelled turret which will also have a co-axial MG when I get round to it, and thus loses the awkwardly-placed hull mount MG from the Cavalier.

I like this thing.

Its growing on me.

also updated VCC-70 for NS

Name: Vehicule de Combat Chenilles 70 VCC-70
Type: Main Battle Tank
Place of Origin: The Greater French Republic

Service History-
In Service: 2006-present
Used By: The Greater French Republic
Wars:

Production History-
Designer: Nexter
Manufacturer: Nexter
Unit Cost: 27,500,000 Francs
Designed: 1998-2006
Number Built:
Variants: VCC-70, VCC-70 Mk II

Specifications- (VCC-70 Mk II)
Weight: 59.5 tonnes
Length: 9.9 meters (6.9 meters w/o gun)
Width: 3.8 meters
Height: 2.6 meters
Crew: 3 (Commander, gunner, driver)
Armament-

GIAT CN128-26/52 128mm smoothbore tank gun
x37 rounds of ammunition (1 ready, 36 stored in 2 18-round re-loadable drums in turret bustle)

x2 Nexter M812 25mm autocannons on a low-profile RWS mount for commander
x200 rounds of ammunition w/ 5 cocking charges each

MAC-93 12.7mm machine gun coaxial
x800 rounds of ammunition

General Performance-
Engine: 8-cylinder diesel (1,100 kW, 1,500 hp)
Power/Weight: 18.5 Kw/tonne, 25.2 hp/tonnes
Suspension: Hydropneumatic
Fuel Capacity: 1,400 l (1,700 l w/ fuel drums)
Operational Range: 550 km (650 km w/ external fuel)
Speed: 70 km/

Protection-
Passive Protection System: The armor of the VCC-70 Mk II is a mixture of titanium, tungsten, various composites with layers of semi-reactive armor with a final layer of non-explosive reactive armor. The rear 1/3 of the VCC has a final layer of slat armor to reduce weight without compromising exposure to shaped charged munitions. The front of the VCC-70 is rated to take most known 120mm HEAT and APFSDS rounds from combat distances (2,000 meters +). The sides differ in protection, the first 1/3 of the tank is protected against most 105mm rounds and certain120-125mm HEAT and some APFSDS rounds, while the rear of the tank moves away from kinetic rods to shaped charge protection, at max able to protect against 57-76mm HV threats.

The rear of the tank is protected against 40-57mm caliber projectiles with slat armor for protection against shaped charge munitions. The turret roof is protected against 35mm AP rounds commonly used by CAS aircraft and attack helicopters. As standard on most tanks, the VCC-70 is equipped with a Kevlar spall liner to protect crew from splinter effects if a round would penetrate or near penetrate the armor. The turret bustle has two blow-out panels were the ammunition is stored, this allows for faster reloading in the field, and increased crew safety.

Active Protection System: The VCC-70 Mk. II uses a Nexter-produced variant of the Iron Fist Active Protection System.

NBC: M772 NBC protection system

The VCC-70 MBT is the newest main battle tank in service with the Greater French Republic. Designed alongside the Leclerc MBT in its later stages, the VCC-70 supplements the AMX-56 in the anti-armor role, being equipped only by independent armored regiments.

How many crew members does this tank have?

Probably four; driver, radioman/loader, gunner, commander. Since the Cavalier has the radioman hunched in a standing position to work the hull MG I figured it's probably an acceptable tradeoff to have him loading the 6-pounder. Nobody has ever accused Vetokites of being well-versed in warfare, and unlike most people I don't really have much in mind of a NS WWII to go off.

Presuming I don't just redo the Cavalier and the Accomplice with larger hulls.

when was it designed for WWII? If its before WWII, all kinds of silly things can be done to a tank and simply the words "Inter-war" are a proper excuse for allot of it.

[Vetok]

(Image)

Done the medium variant to my Cavalier light tank. Carries a 6-pounder in a remodelled turret which will also have a co-axial MG when I get round to it, and thus loses the awkwardly-placed hull mount MG from the Cavalier.

I like this thing.

Thanks.

Probably four; driver, radioman/loader, gunner, commander. Since the Cavalier has the radioman hunched in a standing position to work the hull MG I figured it's probably an acceptable tradeoff to have him loading the 6-pounder. Nobody has ever accused Vetokites of being well-versed in warfare, and unlike most people I don't really have much in mind of a NS WWII to go off.

Presuming I don't just redo the Cavalier and the Accomplice with larger hulls.

when was it designed for WWII? If its before WWII, all kinds of silly things can be done to a tank and simply the words "Inter-war" are a proper excuse for allot of it.

Strictly speaking, I don't have a NS equivalent of WWII in my history. The thirties and forties were the subject of much boredom as the first indigenously designed tanks of Vetok were fielded and realised to be crap as we went to buy export for the next seventy years. Unless I can get my regionmates to agree to some kind of thirties war, that might be cool. EDIT; Basically 1941.