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Who will OP the next MGVoYN[NM] thread?

Imperializt Russia
39
25%
Anemos Major
52
33%
Questers
8
5%
Dragomere
21
13%
Dostanuot Loj
5
3%
The Kievan People
22
14%
Oaledonia
12
8%
 
Total votes : 159

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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:21 pm

Oaledonia wrote:(Image)
I don't know what this camo is called, so I am mad.


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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:23 pm

Mizrad wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Alvis Saxon/humber flying pig is pretty much what you want or pretty much any of the simialr armoured trucks/minibuses out there.

if you do a google image search for "internal secruity vehicle" you'll find lots of examples.



I'm thinking of fielding the M1117 in small numbers as a recon vehicle, MRAP and so on. Or would the Polish BRDM-2 do well in that role as it's cheaper?

I'm going to re-recommend the Shorland on this thread.

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Kouralia:

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Crookfur
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:24 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Mizrad wrote:

I'm thinking of fielding the M1117 in small numbers as a recon vehicle, MRAP and so on. Or would the Polish BRDM-2 do well in that role as it's cheaper?


Both the M1117 and BRDM-2 have limited passenger carrying capacity at best, so I wouldn't advise using them for anything other than lightweight recon or fire support.

From what I understand at least decent troop carrying capacity is one of your requirements, is it not?

What do you think of the Land Rover Tangi? It was used extensively during the Troubles, as a patrol car believe it or not.

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But if you use it, plz get rid of that ugly side overhand. I don't care if it has a role, it completely messes up the looks of that little beast.



sssshhuuussss! don;t be telling the weird native nations about the glorious landrover! Saxons, pigs, g-wagons and unimogs are all they derserve.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:25 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:(Image)
I don't know what this camo is called, so I am mad.

'JG-scale camo resized to a large scale without being edited'

Seriously though, I want it :c
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You bet your ass you will!
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Stahn
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Postby Stahn » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:25 pm

New Tyran wrote:
Stahn wrote:Something like this?:

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I have mixed feelings about that vehicle. :blush:

These are pretty good looking. Gonna buy some of you if that's fine.


This is not a Stahnese vehicle. (Or of any of my nations) I made them for Krjder. Perhaps it would be better if you ask him?
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:27 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:What do you think of the Land Rover Tangi? It was used extensively during the Troubles, as a patrol car believe it or not.

(Image)

But if you use it, plz get rid of that ugly side overhand. I don't care if it has a role, it completely messes up the looks of that little beast.

Are you familiar with what the Troubles even were?
That would explain quite quickly why it looks as it does. It's still used, widely, in Northern Ireland.

Those "ugly" side panels are probably some kind of armour or blast shielding.
And since, you know, it survived the troubles, its "role" is keeping people alive, or otherwise not beaten by an angry Irish mob.
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Mizrad
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Postby Mizrad » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:28 pm

MANDATORY T-80 POST!

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Me? The first one to post this? You all disappoint me...
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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:33 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Mizrad wrote:

I'm thinking of fielding the M1117 in small numbers as a recon vehicle, MRAP and so on. Or would the Polish BRDM-2 do well in that role as it's cheaper?

I'm going to re-recommend the Shorland on this thread.

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basically, this.

To be honest, I find garden-variety SWAT lodrag operator-mobiles to be overweight, most probably grossly overpriced garbage tins. Being built up from commercial chassis instead of purpose-designed doesn't help a lot either. I used to like them a long time ago, but now I see them for what they really are.

More military-ish options:

Polish Dzik-3

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..or you could always just go no-frills with it and use BTRs.

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Preferably BTR-80s with the "classic" turret.

Or.. you know.. you could try my BTR-23 :lol:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:36 pm

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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:37 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:What do you think of the Land Rover Tangi? It was used extensively during the Troubles, as a patrol car believe it or not.

(Image)

But if you use it, plz get rid of that ugly side overhand. I don't care if it has a role, it completely messes up the looks of that little beast.

Are you familiar with what the Troubles even were?
That would explain quite quickly why it looks as it does. It's still used, widely, in Northern Ireland.

Those "ugly" side panels are probably some kind of armour or blast shielding.
And since, you know, it survived the troubles, its "role" is keeping people alive, or otherwise not beaten by an angry Irish mob.


It's probably just some sort of spaced armor, no way it's solid armor. It wouldn't last very long without some serious structural reinforcements to hold all that extra weight. Which, come to think about it, the Tangis should actually already have some of since they're armored. This got me thinking, I'll go check and get back to you.

EDIT: Ah, I remembered correctly

The use a drogue bomb which damaged the roof of one vehicle during rioting at Dawson Street in Belfast led to the developing of the 'Dawson' roof. The crew of the landrover were saved from serious injury as they had packed riot shields using ropes above their heads forming a second skin. The roofs now effectively were designed with a second steel roof mounted over the first and works similar to spaced armour, detonating the IED before it struck the main armoured roof. Vehicles fitted with the Dawson roof were easily identified due to its large, angular appearance.
Similar IEDs were fitted with small drogues on the rear, so they could be thrown horizontally to strike the side of a Tangi thus circumventing the additional roof armour. The RUC responded to this with a similar measure to the Dawson roof, fitting a plate of ballistic steel several inches from the hull to detonate the bomb before it struck the main armoured body. In this final form, with the Dawson roof and hardened side armour, the Tangi is seen on the streets of Northern Ireland today.


But it still looks horrendous. If you're gonna go with it you could at least make the entire sides flush with said spaced armor.
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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Mizrad
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Postby Mizrad » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:38 pm

BTR-23? Break out the stats and change the name please :lol: .

Also the BTR-80 could be put into limited use, and the Dzik 3 seems interesting I'll look into it. However so far I'm thinking Humvees with BRDM-2 [Again, Polish variant] and BTR-80 supplements. Yet would the Humvee be better than the Dzik?
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Mizrad
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Postby Mizrad » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:41 pm



It's a Chinese vehicle, I'm thinking ZBD-05.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:44 pm

Mizrad wrote:


It's a Chinese vehicle, I'm thinking ZBD-05.

I was speaking about the camo :\
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:45 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Mizrad wrote:
It's a Chinese vehicle, I'm thinking ZBD-05.

I was speaking about the camo :\

As far as I can tell you just won't ever find out what the actual Chinese designation is, if there is one at all.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Mizrad
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Postby Mizrad » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:47 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Mizrad wrote:
It's a Chinese vehicle, I'm thinking ZBD-05.

I was speaking about the camo :\


Well then you should have been more specific *Insert Captain Hindsight quite here*

I think the closest you'll get is the USMC's Digital woodland MARPAT.
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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:48 pm

Mizrad wrote:BTR-23? Break out the stats and change the name please :lol: .

Also the BTR-80 could be put into limited use, and the Dzik 3 seems interesting I'll look into it. However so far I'm thinking Humvees with BRDM-2 [Again, Polish variant] and BTR-80 supplements. Yet would the Humvee be better than the Dzik?


For what you want it to do, no.

You could also try BPM-97. I like to think of it as a modern BTR-40 / BTR-152.

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As previously stated, BRDM-2 lacks a decent troop carrying capability. If I were you and I decided to go the (ex) Soviet route, I'd probably get BPM-97s with BTR-80 reserved for when SreallyHTF

I'll dig up those stats asap

EDIT: BTR-23 3D + stats

and here's a silly img I made

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Vetok
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Postby Vetok » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:56 pm

If that camo's official designation is not 'Tetris Camouflage', someone has missed an opportunity.

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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:22 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:40 pm

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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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New Korongo
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Postby New Korongo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:54 pm

Oaledonia wrote:(Image)

Is that some kind of modernized Sheridan?

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:55 pm

New Korongo wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:(Image)

Is that some kind of modernized Sheridan?

Yup.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:34 pm

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I have found a replacement for the Firefly.

Also: tank drifting
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Lydenburg
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Postby Lydenburg » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:38 pm

Mizrad wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
are you sure you need mraps.


Not wide spread, I mean for like limited use. Maybe fifty to a hundred would be bought at best for special police and military units. My puppet nation won't be poor, but it sure as hell ain't rich. The issue is, it's got a major crime problem in it's version of the "Favelas". There's so much of a divide between that fourth of the country and the rest of Destinado Tierra that you might as well call it a confederate state. It would end up like the Afghani insurgency but near all public support would be in favor of the government as long as they play their cards right.

EDIT: This "Insurgency" is yet to be IC'ly assessed or handled, although it IC'ly sprung up around a decade ago after a major war. However it won't be long before the need for MRAP's is realized, but with public support [Which will come once the government asserts their dominance] that need may not be as urgent.


Looking for something really basic and cheap, with the best MRAP record out there, I'd recommend Casspir.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:21 pm

Now featuring actual tyres and command guided ATGMs.

Next will either be fire support or SHORADS.
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Postby Viritica » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:31 pm

My nation's new breed of fourth-generation MBT... the Copperhead.

Equipped with a 140mm smoothbore ETC cannon.

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