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Harmoneia
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Postby Harmoneia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:34 am

Anumia wrote:Years of monarchy ended by someone who appointed their successor :P at least the Milograd as Mao image was made already so I didn't have to point it out.


Don't know the difference between meritcoracy and monarchy, even oligarchy, hmm? There, there, I don't blame you. :)

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Anumia
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Postby Anumia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:45 am

Harmoneia wrote:
Anumia wrote:Years of monarchy ended by someone who appointed their successor :P at least the Milograd as Mao image was made already so I didn't have to point it out.


Don't know the difference between meritcoracy and monarchy, even oligarchy, hmm? There, there, I don't blame you. :)


I know, right? I'm all, "How do I politic?" :P

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:04 am

Harmoneia wrote:
Anumia wrote:Years of monarchy ended by someone who appointed their successor :P at least the Milograd as Mao image was made already so I didn't have to point it out.


Don't know the difference between meritcoracy and monarchy, even oligarchy, hmm? There, there, I don't blame you. :)

Since actual heriditary succession doesn't actually happen in NS (it can't), monarchy pretty much is just meritocracy. Just with cooler titles.

EdIt: Also, how long before the 'proletariat' of Lazarus starts 'spontaneously' demanding Milograd 'liberate' the people of TSP?
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Postby Aperi » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:32 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Harmoneia wrote:
Don't know the difference between meritcoracy and monarchy, even oligarchy, hmm? There, there, I don't blame you. :)

Since actual heriditary succession doesn't actually happen in NS (it can't), monarchy pretty much is just meritocracy. Just with cooler titles.

EdIt: Also, how long before the 'proletariat' of Lazarus starts 'spontaneously' demanding Milograd 'liberate' the people of TSP?



Nice non-sequitur there at the end. Give it a rest. Milo made his peace with TSP and frankly they have other people eyeing them up at the moment. So give it a rest and let us handle our region. I have some preparation H for your imp friends who will never see the inside of Laz again.
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Heronlord_of_Lazarus
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Postby Heronlord_of_Lazarus » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:01 pm

Milo is a good person, he stands for Lazarus and its people. Hating on him for what happened in TSP should be differentiated from his actions in Lazarus. We appreciate the service and dedication he has shown to us, and him stepping up to hold the delegacy in a time of need is appreciated by most of the citizens of Lazarus.

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Mad Jack
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Postby Mad Jack » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:11 pm

I have zero problem with Milograd. We are, I hope, friends and have a much longer history than he has with most people in gameplay, with the possible exception of Solm (but he doesn't count).

However to say that... this isn't a surprise would be an understatement. There was always that feeling there, with the adoption of the Maoist theme and other indications, that Milograd would be Lazarus delegate sooner rather than later. I have no problem with that, I wish Lazarus all the best, but it isn't a surprise (not that anyone should be criticised for that).

What this may do is spur TSP's legislature on to accepting Belschaft's request to terminate the TSP-Lazarus Treaty.
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Southern Bellz
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Re: The Lazarene People's Republic

Postby Southern Bellz » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:45 pm

I wish all GCRs the best and hope that Lazarus doesn't get the same knife in the back from Milograd that we did in TSP.

I once held the same trust that you guys did, in fact, I personally invested political capital in supporting him. He did everything in TSP the right way, and didn't do anything wrong by us until he did what he did.

Just don't be surprise if you wake up in TRR with your regional theme as the joke of the week.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:53 pm

Southern Bellz wrote:Just don't be surprise if you wake up in TRR with your regional theme as the joke of the week.

I'm actually half expecting it :P
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Shadow Afforess
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:00 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:EdIt: Also, how long before the 'proletariat' of Lazarus starts 'spontaneously' demanding Milograd 'liberate' the people of TSP?


I think Capitalist Paradise would have a problem with the overthrow of the lawfully elected democracy in TSP. We might even be convinced to do something about that.
Southern Bellz wrote:I wish all GCRs the best and hope that Lazarus doesn't get the same knife in the back from Milograd that we did in TSP.

I once held the same trust that you guys did, in fact, I personally invested political capital in supporting him. He did everything in TSP the right way, and didn't do anything wrong by us until he did what he did.

Just don't be surprise if you wake up in TRR with your regional theme as the joke of the week.

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The North Polish Union
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Postby The North Polish Union » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:13 pm

Shadow Afforess wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:EdIt: Also, how long before the 'proletariat' of Lazarus starts 'spontaneously' demanding Milograd 'liberate' the people of TSP?


I think Capitalist Paradise would have a problem with the overthrow of the lawfully elected democracy in TSP. We might even be convinced to do something about that.

Really? Is TSP an ally of CP? Because I thought that there were threes types of regions according to Afforess. CP, CP's allies, and the "unwashed barbarian masses."
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Shadow Afforess
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:37 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:
Shadow Afforess wrote:
I think Capitalist Paradise would have a problem with the overthrow of the lawfully elected democracy in TSP. We might even be convinced to do something about that.

Really? Is TSP an ally of CP? Because I thought that there were threes types of regions according to Afforess. CP, CP's allies, and the "unwashed barbarian masses."

Check out the embassy list -> http://www.nationstates.net/region=capitalist_paradise
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:45 pm

An embassy = an alliance?
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:48 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:An embassy = an alliance?


Embassy significance varies from region to region. It at least hints towards the start of one.
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Milograd
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Postby Milograd » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:17 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Southern Bellz wrote:Just don't be surprise if you wake up in TRR with your regional theme as the joke of the week.

I'm actually half expecting it :P

It'll be far more amusing to me to have a totally clean term, because it'd be unexpected.

I don't know what my delegacy will bring, but I expect that it'll be interesting in some way or another. :p
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:19 pm

I didn't know Chairmans had terms - they just served until they wanted to quit.
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Heronlord_of_Lazarus
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Postby Heronlord_of_Lazarus » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:31 pm

Or until someone else wants to take over and is trusted to do a good job, how a meritocracy works.

As for milo maybe ejecting people from Laz at a later date... Well it might happen, but i doubt it will be without government backing, or just for lulz.

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Someone Special
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Postby Someone Special » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:30 pm

I like Milo :)
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:17 pm

Heronlord_of_Lazarus wrote:Or until someone else wants to take over and is trusted to do a good job, how a meritocracy works.

As for milo maybe ejecting people from Laz at a later date... Well it might happen, but i doubt it will be without government backing, or just for lulz.

The chairman has agree to give up their power, which is the point. There's no 'six months and then new chairman' (or whatever length of time).

That's not a bad thing, per se, but its strange to talk of the Chairman having 'terms' given that circumstance.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby PrussianEmpire » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:41 pm

All I can hope for is that I get to be involved in all the fun things that may happen :D
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:11 am

PrussianEmpire wrote:All I can hope for is that I get to be involved in all the fun things that may happen :D

Don't worry, if people are going to be banned i'll make sure you're top of the list :D
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Mad Jack
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Postby Mad Jack » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:19 am

#Ban Purge Prussia 2013
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The Lazarene Gazette
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Postby The Lazarene Gazette » Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:56 am

Image


Iron Production up 112%
Harvest Rises as Well


It is indeed an auspicious time for socialism!

Proving to the world that our Five Year Plan for the Industrialization of Lazarus will bring a remarkable success, a report revealed at The Great Hall of the People by our glorious Chairman shows that the production of iron from Lazarus' mountain regions has risen 129.2% since the pre-revolutionary days, while production of food in the People's Agricultural Communes has driven regional food production up by 67.3%.

"[We] would have to credit our undeniable success to Crapzakistan," declared Milograd, "Who has overseen the conversion of all cookware, while also decisively collectivizing our farms." It is truly a wise and generous leader who shares the glories of the peoples' success with others.

One farmer from a commune just outside The Crimson City declared in the that, "The new upsurge in socialist mass movement has truly brought a tide of reform! We must all thank our vanguards for guiding 
this 
movement
 vigorously,
 warmly, 
and
 systematically,
 and
 not 
acting 
as
 a 
drag
 on 
it."

Of course, the Revolution can always achieve further progress. In a bold declaration, Milograd laid out one area that the Five Year Plan can continue to improve upon: "Cheaper costs for increased increases." Wise words indeed.

Surely the greedy exploitationists of other regions look on in jealousy at what The People have accomplished. One unnamed Imperialist leader was even recorded through the bugs in his office quoted as saying: "These reds and their miraculous progress break the facade of our web of lies." The great example of Lazarus may even inspire others around the world to take up the red banner.

Image
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Someone Special
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Postby Someone Special » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:11 am

This makes me wonder how much reefer they are smoking in Lazarus :P
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Milograd
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Postby Milograd » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:15 am

Someone Special wrote:This makes me wonder how much reefer they are smoking in Lazarus :P

I'll let Heronlord speak for himself, but Kaz's post is clearly a metaphor for activity.
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Someone Special
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Postby Someone Special » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:17 am

Milograd wrote:
Someone Special wrote:This makes me wonder how much reefer they are smoking in Lazarus :P

I'll let Heronlord speak for himself, but Kaz's post is clearly a metaphor for activity.


Must the whole thing be a metaphor? I don't think anyone reading this would have any idea of what is actually going on in Lazarus.
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