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[WITHDRAWN] Whaling Regulations Act 2013

Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:48 am

Description: "The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING the global endangerment of whales.
THEREBY submits this Act in an attempt to make member states to take more effective steps in preserving the population of these aquatic mammals as part of maintaining balance in the ecosystem.

1:

(A)
If any person belonging to a ship nationally under WA jurisdiction kills or takes, or attempts to kill or to take:

    (x) a right whale, or
    (y) an immature whale, or
    (z) a female whale which is accompanied by a calf,
that person and the ship-master and (subject to the following provisions of this Act) the owner and the charterer (if applicable) of the ship shall each be liable to imprisonment for a fixed prison term up to the member nation's discretion, though guidelines of this Act recommend not exceeding a 3 month duration or a moderate financial fine up to the member nation's discretion, along with an additional fine not exceeding the value of the products (if any) obtained or obtainable from the whale in question, or to both such
imprisonment and such fines.

(B) For the purposes of this section a whale of any description shall be deemed to be immature if it is of less than such length as may be prescribed in relation to whales of that description : Provided that the length prescribed for the purposes of this section in relation to blue whales shall not be less than sixty feet, and the length so prescribed in relation to fin whales shall not be less than fifty feet.

2:

(A)
For the purposes of clarity ''a ship nationally under WA jurisdiction'' applies only to ships manufactured, regardless of location, to serve and represent the WA nation it was specified for.

(B) Therefore if the ship were either fully or partially manufactured under non-WA jurisdiction, but manufactured for the application of of being headed by heralds of a WA jurisdiction, then the Act would be binding to the ship.

(C) In the event of the provisions of Section 1 being violated under non-WA jurisdiction the Act shall remain applicable to all WA parties involved.

3:

(A)
Recognizing the threat that certain WA maritime enterprises may attempt to exploit the jurisdiction loophole whereby they fraudulently adopt a non-WA flag of convenience to avoid being bound by the regulations imposed by the Act.

(B) Acknowledges that this can lead to confusion as to the correct identity of the ship as to whether or not it represents and serves a WA nation.

(C) Therefore in addition to Sections 1 and 2, finds all ships regardless of jurisdiction to be bound by the Act if the violation of the provisions detailed in the Act is exercised under WA territorial waters where the Act is enforced.

4:

(A)
Lists known 'Right Whales' covered by the Act:

    1- Atlantic right whale.
    2- Arctic right whale.
    3- Biscayan right whale.
    4- Bowhead
    5- Greenland right whale.
    6- Greenland whale.
    7- Nordkaper
    8- North Atlantic right whale.
    9- North Cape whale.
    10- Pacific right whale.
    11- Pigmy right whale.
    12- Southern Pigmy right whale.
    13- Southern Right whale

(B) Lists known 'Blue Whales' covered by the Act:

    1- Blue Whale
    2- Sibbald's Rorqual
    3- Sulphur Bottom


(C) Lists known 'Fin Whales' covered by the Act

    1-Common Finback
    2- Common Finner
    3- Common Rorqual
    4- Finback
    5- Fin whale
    6- Herring whale
    7- Razorback
    8- True Finn whale

(D) Highlights that this Act therefore essentially helps in protecting over 24 different species of the whale.

(E) Furthermore tasks the World Assembly Science Program (WASP) established under the GA Resolution #87 to regularly expand and update the lists conveyed under Sections 4 (A-C) to its sensible discretion.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:52 am

"This is an interesting idea, and it's unfortunate that you're going to beget an awful lot of silliness from those who respond.

"My specific concern regards the jurisdiction of the ship. Manufacture is not the customary means of determining a ship's nationality: typically, it would be which flag they are flying. As it stands, your proposal would do nothing to redress a ship flying a flag of convenience."

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:56 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:"This is an interesting idea, and it's unfortunate that you're going to beget an awful lot of silliness from those who respond.

"My specific concern regards the jurisdiction of the ship. Manufacture is not the customary means of determining a ship's nationality: typically, it would be which flag they are flying. As it stands, your proposal would do nothing to redress a ship flying a flag of convenience."

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The flag which they are flying would have to be represented as part of the ''application of of being headed by heralds of a WA jurisdiction''.

''Heralds'' would have to represent the WA jurisdiction in some recognizable way or another, and it goes without saying that flag identification is one of them.

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:01 am

Category and strength?
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:05 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
The Dark Star Republic wrote:"This is an interesting idea, and it's unfortunate that you're going to beget an awful lot of silliness from those who respond.

"My specific concern regards the jurisdiction of the ship. Manufacture is not the customary means of determining a ship's nationality: typically, it would be which flag they are flying. As it stands, your proposal would do nothing to redress a ship flying a flag of convenience."

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The flag which they are flying would have to be represented as part of the ''application of of being headed by heralds of a WA jurisdiction''.

''Heralds'' would have to represent the WA jurisdiction in some recognizable way or another, and it goes without saying that flag identification is one of them.

"I'm not sure I follow. The clause only refers to ships manufactured in non-WA jurisdictions. If it's flying a flag of convenience, then it wouldn't be flying a flag of a WA nation. That's how a flag of convenience works: commercial whaling operations would simply have their boats chartered in a non-WA nation."

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:06 am

Moronist Decisions wrote:Category and strength?


Category would most likely be 'Environmental'.

As for strength...

One of the following industries have to be chosen:

    Automobile Manufacturing
    Uranium Mining
    Woodchipping
    All Businesses

The question is which of these would be affected by this Bill.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:10 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
The flag which they are flying would have to be represented as part of the ''application of of being headed by heralds of a WA jurisdiction''.

''Heralds'' would have to represent the WA jurisdiction in some recognizable way or another, and it goes without saying that flag identification is one of them.

"I'm not sure I follow. The clause only refers to ships manufactured in non-WA jurisdictions. If it's flying a flag of convenience, then it wouldn't be flying a flag of a WA nation. That's how a flag of convenience works: commercial whaling operations would simply have their boats chartered in a non-WA nation."

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The draft will have to be amended to address the issue of flags of convenience.

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Postby Morrdh » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:14 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Moronist Decisions wrote:Category and strength?


Category would most likely be 'Environmental'.

As for strength...

One of the following industries have to be chosen:

    Automobile Manufacturing
    Uranium Mining
    Woodchipping
    All Businesses

The question is which of these would be affected by this Bill.


Strength refers to the following, NOT industry.

Strong - Proposals that affect a very broad area of policy and/or use very strong language and possibly detailed clauses to affect a policy area in a dramatic way.

Significant - Proposals that affect a fair-sized area of policy and/or use fairly strong language to affect a policy area.

Mild - Proposals that affect a very limited area of policy and/or use fairly mild language to affect only that policy area, or broader policy areas in a very minor way.


Personally I'd change the focus away from ships and nationality (the way have have this written means this Act could easily be made useless by ships using non-WA flags) and replace it with a focus upon the territorial waters of WA nations.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:27 am

Morrdh wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Category would most likely be 'Environmental'.

As for strength...

One of the following industries have to be chosen:

    Automobile Manufacturing
    Uranium Mining
    Woodchipping
    All Businesses

The question is which of these would be affected by this Bill.


Strength refers to the following, NOT industry.

OOC: Not for Environmental it doesn't; Jariri is perfectly correct.

For this proposal, it would have to be All Businesses, unfortunately.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:32 am

Morrdh wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Category would most likely be 'Environmental'.

As for strength...

One of the following industries have to be chosen:

    Automobile Manufacturing
    Uranium Mining
    Woodchipping
    All Businesses

The question is which of these would be affected by this Bill.


Strength refers to the following, NOT industry.

Strong - Proposals that affect a very broad area of policy and/or use very strong language and possibly detailed clauses to affect a policy area in a dramatic way.

Significant - Proposals that affect a fair-sized area of policy and/or use fairly strong language to affect a policy area.

Mild - Proposals that affect a very limited area of policy and/or use fairly mild language to affect only that policy area, or broader policy areas in a very minor way.


Personally I'd change the focus away from ships and nationality (the way have have this written means this Act could easily be made useless by ships using non-WA flags) and replace it with a focus upon the territorial waters of WA nations.


Section 3 introduced in an attempt to address this.

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:17 am

Section 4 introduced for the sake of clarity and summarizing that at least 24 species of whales would be protected under the Act.

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:31 am

Is there any point to listing every type of whale?
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:34 am

"No. Instead, I think it'd be better to use the WA Science Programme, as the Sustainable Fishing Act did, and have them research, publish and update a list of whales."

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:37 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:"No. Instead, I think it'd be better to use the WA Science Programme, as the Sustainable Fishing Act did, and have them research, publish and update a list of whales."

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The list can be updated and expanded under the GA Resolution #87
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:04 am

Now I need to come up with a preamble...

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:06 am

iirc, you can't use a committee (or any device in the resolution) to amend the resolution itself. That clause would therefore be illegal. Also, species in NS might not be the same as species in RL.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:11 am

Moronist Decisions wrote:iirc, you can't use a committee (or any device in the resolution) to amend the resolution itself. That clause would therefore be illegal. Also, species in NS might not be the same as species in RL.


Its not the only resolution that has used WASP, the Sustainable Fishing Act also tasked it with a certain duty, whereas the actual committee of WASP was formed under a different act, so from past examples I believe it is allowed.

As for whether or not they exist in NS, well thats up to individual players and their nations themselves.
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Postby Venico » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:59 am

Firmly against. Whaling should not be regulated in any capacity. Whale population falls too far? Darwinism. It couldn't survive.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:17 am

Venico wrote:Firmly against. Whaling should not be regulated in any capacity. Whale population falls too far? Darwinism. It couldn't survive.


The rule of natural selection that you are citing holds true only in entirely natural environments. Industrialized whale hunting isn't a natural event, so the law doesn't entirely apply here. Please refrain from twisting basic ecological principles into lies, ambassador.

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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:21 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:The rule of natural selection that you are citing holds true only in entirely natural environments. Industrialized whale hunting isn't a natural event, so the law doesn't entirely apply here. Please refrain from twisting basic ecological principles into lies, ambassador.

However, given that whaling is a form of hunting, I would think that GAR#267 - Sensible Limits on Hunting may already apply in this situation and thereby render the need for this resolution moot. Unless the fact that some whaling may happen in international waters (and thereby not within national borders) is what the author intends to focus on?

However, I encourage the author to bear in mind that only WA member nations are affected by WA resolutions, and non-WA member nations are likely to not comply to any regulations set forth regarding whaling (or any XYZ activity) within international waters.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:50 am

If I search the Internet for Google hits with your proposal text, how long does it take me to find what you've plagiarized?

EDIT: Additionally, is there any reason why you're excluding toothed whales? (Dolphins, for example.) Many of the smaller species are (OOCly at least) in great danger of getting caught in fishing nets as unfortunate bycatch, and are still hunter in addition to that.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:01 am

Araraukar wrote:If I search the Internet for Google hits with your proposal text, how long does it take me to find what you've plagiarized?
It's clearly based on this.

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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:02 am

Araraukar wrote:If I search the Internet for Google hits with your proposal text, how long does it take me to find what you've plagiarized?

*cough*

I think I've found it.

It's not a whole sale plagiarization, but the whole first part is right there. And the other sections may be elsewhere within this same piece of UK legislation ...
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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:16 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Moronist Decisions wrote:iirc, you can't use a committee (or any device in the resolution) to amend the resolution itself. That clause would therefore be illegal. Also, species in NS might not be the same as species in RL.


Its not the only resolution that has used WASP, the Sustainable Fishing Act also tasked it with a certain duty, whereas the actual committee of WASP was formed under a different act, so from past examples I believe it is allowed.

Yes one committee can be use by multiple resolutions, the question is can that committee be tasked with essentially amending the resolution. Now if it were me, I wouldn't put the list in the resolution, instead I would task the committee with creating and updating the list.

The big question here is, if whales are endangered how are they not already protected by GA Resolution #66 Endangered Species Protection?

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:35 am

Mousebumples wrote:However, given that whaling is a form of hunting, I would think that GAR#267 - Sensible Limits on Hunting may already apply in this situation and thereby render the need for this resolution moot. Unless the fact that some whaling may happen in international waters (and thereby not within national borders) is what the author intends to focus on?
Actually, as whales are aquatic life-forms, the Sustainable Fishing Act would apply and would take priority over SLoH.
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