Hawaii has legalized same sex marriage

[Valcouria]

I am only human, aren't I? Matter of fact, aren't we all? So then it goes to say that we all have faults. I fancy mine to be less than those who wish to indulge in sinful, carnal behavior of the kind that is not for those of the same gender (and I do try to work to eradicate it with good faith and works).

I personally find your horrendous warping of Christianity to be more sinful than homosexuality.

The only warping of Christianity that is occurring are the secular humanists who have infiltrated good Christian society and started preaching that everything is just fine, there's no such thing as sin. To be frank, those who ascribe to such a view are not Christian, just some offshoot of the secular humanist viewpoint that happens to believe in something greater than themselves.
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Should be called something else, to be honest.

[Rocopurr]

I personally find your horrendous warping of Christianity to be more sinful than homosexuality.

The only warping of Christianity that is occurring are the secular humanists who have infiltrated good Christian society and started preaching that everything is just fine, there's no such thing as sin. To be frank, those who ascribe to such a view are not Christian, just some offshoot of the secular humanist viewpoint that happens to believe in something greater than themselves.
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Should be called something else, to be honest.

America's government and laws are not based on Christianity nor is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony.

[Valcouria]

And so 'progress' continues to degrade and destroy improve and reaffirm cultural morality and sensibility...is it any wonder the world is coming apart at the seams going to get better? I surmise not.

Fixed that for you.

It will only get 'better' when cultural morality is reaffirmed, the right to life is respected and the sanctity of marriage is affirmed between one man and one woman. Until then, this planet will be nothing but a blue Hell.

[Agritum]

I personally find your horrendous warping of Christianity to be more sinful than homosexuality.

The only warping of Christianity that is occurring are the secular humanists who have infiltrated good Christian society and started preaching that everything is just fine, there's no such thing as sin. To be frank, those who ascribe to such a view are not Christian, just some offshoot of the secular humanist viewpoint that happens to believe in something greater than themselves.
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Should be called something else, to be honest.

Of course, Modernism is guilty of Crusades, witch hunts, the Inquisition, schisms and other religious conflicts.

Oh, wait.

[Vicswampia]

And I do enjoy believing that you and people like you have a hot room waiting for you at the end of your mortal life. Guess we're even then, aren't we?

Hating someone for their inherent characteristics is pretty damn stupid.

[Herrebrugh]

I love being gay. It allows me to laugh extra hard at people like you.

And I do enjoy believing that you and people like you have a hot room waiting for you at the end of your mortal life. Guess we're even then, aren't we?

Eh. If that guy you love so much is that big of a dick (that is, if he'd even exist), then he can suck it anyway.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Pretty sure Herrebrugh has more decency and morality than you with your silly iron age shepherd fairytales will ever dream of.

As much as it pains you to know, the Church is not all about 'love' and 'tolerance'. Sure, its a big part, but so is the sancity of life and marraige. I find that, when the two clash, the latter gain priority and precedence. And most good Christians would agree, I should think.

Sorry, I am too busy perpetuating the tens of millions of years of commonplace male-male mammalian and avian buttsex, the 14 billion years of universal disbelief in deities and the centuries of Western secularism and Western attempt to overthrown hierarchic and anti-egalitarian systems to care about your Sky Faerie.

Not to say how marriage was not invented by your religion (governmental marriage, in both religious and secular motives, both precede it). And your God is a genocidal freak in story and who would have made nature this butcher paradise if it was reality (it sure, sure, sure, sure is not) anyway, humans are one of the species to be least infanticidal, don't you come talk to us about sanctity of life.

[Aethrys]

The next step is to bulldoze churches, mosques and synagogues.

Unless they could be easily converted to serve a positive public function, I suppose. But the general layout of such buildings that I've seen doesn't seem conductive to anything like that.

[The yoshin empire]

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Fixed that for you.

It will only get 'better' when cultural morality is reaffirmed, the right to life is respected and the sanctity of marriage is affirmed between one man and one woman. Until then, this planet will be nothing but a blue Hell.

Then for the love of god , please get of this planet , because for poeple like me, your blue hell, is our green heaven, and your ruining it

[Herrebrugh]

Fixed that for you.

It will only get 'better' when cultural morality is reaffirmed, the right to life is respected and the sanctity of marriage is affirmed between one man and one woman. Until then, this planet will be nothing but a blue Hell.

Need a kleenex? It won't get better for the likes of you, I'm afraid.

[Valcouria]

The only warping of Christianity that is occurring are the secular humanists who have infiltrated good Christian society and started preaching that everything is just fine, there's no such thing as sin. To be frank, those who ascribe to such a view are not Christian, just some offshoot of the secular humanist viewpoint that happens to believe in something greater than themselves.
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Should be called something else, to be honest.

America's government and laws are not based on Christianity nor is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony.

Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

As for the second point, the church and the government should be in step with each other; it shows that they are both in the same mindset. When one goes a different way, society stumbles and falls apart...as ancient Rome will show.

[Agritum]

The next step is to bulldoze churches, mosques and synagogues.

Why? Fortunately, not all religious people are hateful like Valcouria.

[Vicswampia]

Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

Actually, most of the Western legal system is based on the Roman law and the Napoleonic Code, if I recal correctly.

[Aethrys]

The next step is to bulldoze churches, mosques and synagogues.

Why? Fortunately, not all religious people are hateful like Valcouria.

Alright, I suppose it's something that still needs some easing into.

In that case the next step should be to revoke their tax exemptions.

[Vicswampia]

In that case the next step should be to revoke their tax exemptions.

Indeed.

[Agritum]

Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

Actually, most of the Western legal system is based on the Roman law and the Napoleonic Code, if I recal correctly.

And Hammurabi predated Judo-Christian laws by years.

[Tundland]

Why? Fortunately, not all religious people are hateful like Valcouria.

Alright, I suppose it's something that still needs some easing into.

In that case the next step should be to revoke their tax exemptions.

Doesn't that go against freedom of speech and/or belief?

[Rocopurr]

America's government and laws are not based on Christianity nor is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony.

Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

As for the second point, the church and the government should be in step with each other; it shows that they are both in the same mindset. When one goes a different way, society stumbles and falls apart...as ancient Rome will show.

Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments? Please show me the laws against adultery, being jealous, not going to church on Sunday, etc.

But why should marriage be made Christian when not everyone here is Christian?

[Herrebrugh]

Actually, most of the Western legal system is based on the Roman law and the Napoleonic Code, if I recal correctly.

And Hammurabi predated Judo-Christian laws by years.

Damn it! Stop shattering the guy's world-view with facts!

[Agritum]

And Hammurabi predated Judo-Christian laws by years.

Damn it! Stop shattering the guy's world-view with facts!

Facts? He doesn't even admit the teachings of Jesus himself, why should he follow facts?

[Valcouria]

And I do enjoy believing that you and people like you have a hot room waiting for you at the end of your mortal life. Guess we're even then, aren't we?

Eh. If that guy you love so much is that big of a dick (that is, if he'd even exist), then he can suck it anyway.

To be frank, I would rather commit suicide that ever admit being homosexual, mark my words.

And I do enjoy believing that you and people like you have a hot room waiting for you at the end of your mortal life. Guess we're even then, aren't we?

Hating someone for their inherent characteristics is pretty damn stupid.

It's not so much enjoyment as it is a statement of genuine belief.

As much as it pains you to know, the Church is not all about 'love' and 'tolerance'. Sure, its a big part, but so is the sancity of life and marraige. I find that, when the two clash, the latter gain priority and precedence. And most good Christians would agree, I should think.

Sorry, I am too busy perpetuating the tens of millions of male-male mammalian and avian buttsex, the 14 billion years of universal disbelief in deities and the centuries of Western secularism and Western attempt to overthrown hierarchic and anti-egalitarian systems to care about your Sky Faerie.

...Again, there's a special room waiting for you at the end of your life...if I recall, it is in the second circle of that place, actually...

The next step is to bulldoze churches, mosques and synagogues.

Unless they could be easily converted to serve a positive public function, I suppose. But the general layout of such buildings that I've seen doesn't seem conductive to anything like that.

One day it will come to that, I am almost certain. After all, when religions stand up for what's right and just and society decides they are wrong, you get atrocities like those in the Spanish Civil War.

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It will only get 'better' when cultural morality is reaffirmed, the right to life is respected and the sanctity of marriage is affirmed between one man and one woman. Until then, this planet will be nothing but a blue Hell.

Then for the love of god , please get of this planet , because for people like me, your blue hell, is our green heaven, and your ruining it

I intend to stay and work to fix it, actually, and won't rest until it is.

[Valcouria]

Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

As for the second point, the church and the government should be in step with each other; it shows that they are both in the same mindset. When one goes a different way, society stumbles and falls apart...as ancient Rome will show.

Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments? Please show me the laws against adultery, being jealous, not going to church on Sunday, etc.

But why should marriage be made Christian when not everyone here is Christian?

If I recall, those used to be laws (and, again, if I'm remembering correctly some Jewish denominations still follow those), but liberal progressives decided that those weren't supposed to be laws and did away with them. I fully believe that they should be laws with full legal force behind them.

[Herrebrugh]

Eh. If that guy you love so much is that big of a dick (that is, if he'd even exist), then he can suck it anyway.

To be frank, I would rather commit suicide that ever admit being homosexual, mark my words.

And I greatly disliked the idea of being gay at first too. But I quickly eased into it, mostly because of my accepting surroundings.

This really shouldn't be something you have to kill yourself over. But, alas, things like the church have demonised it and made it a taboo which still hasn't been completely broken down as of now.

[Inruptus]

Yay for Hawaii!!!!!!!!!!)

[Rocopurr]

Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments? Please show me the laws against adultery, being jealous, not going to church on Sunday, etc.

But why should marriage be made Christian when not everyone here is Christian?

If I recall, those used to be laws (and, again, if I'm remembering correctly some Jewish denominations still follow those), but liberal progressives decided that those weren't supposed to be laws and did away with them. I fully believe that they should be laws with full legal force behind them.

Too bad. They aren't modern laws, and we are discussing modern laws, not what you think should be a law.

Answer my second question, please.