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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:01 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:A possibility, and yet HIV/AIDS remains uncommon amongst lesbians.
What was it you were saying about homosexuality and coming of the closet due to acceptance? That HIV/AIDS rates would necessarily skyrocket? Well, since HIV/AIDS is clearly not inherent to homosexuality, I think you should retract from your previous claims.


What if you had a country in which the majority of the population was male such as china?

Regardless, the majority of the Chinese population isn't homosexual.

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Postby Grenartia » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:02 am

Again, let's give Misotheist some time to respond to posts. We don't want to get this thing possibly locked for dogpiling.
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Postby Cosmicus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:03 am

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Liriena wrote:A possibility, and yet HIV/AIDS remains uncommon amongst lesbians.
What was it you were saying about homosexuality and coming of the closet due to acceptance? That HIV/AIDS rates would necessarily skyrocket? Well, since HIV/AIDS is clearly not inherent to homosexuality, I think you should retract from your previous claims.


What if you had a country in which the majority of the population was male such as china?

That doesn't mean that the majority of homosexuals are (biologically) male.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:03 am

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Liriena wrote:A possibility, and yet HIV/AIDS remains uncommon amongst lesbians.
What was it you were saying about homosexuality and coming of the closet due to acceptance? That HIV/AIDS rates would necessarily skyrocket? Well, since HIV/AIDS is clearly not inherent to homosexuality, I think you should retract from your previous claims.


What if you had a country in which the majority of the population was male such as china?

The majority of males in China is so slight as to be negligible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 am

Grenartia wrote:Again, let's give Misotheist some time to respond to posts. We don't want to get this thing possibly locked for dogpiling.

A good idea.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:A possibility, and yet HIV/AIDS remains uncommon amongst lesbians.
What was it you were saying about homosexuality and coming of the closet due to acceptance? That HIV/AIDS rates would necessarily skyrocket? Well, since HIV/AIDS is clearly not inherent to homosexuality, I think you should retract from your previous claims.


What if you had a country in which the majority of the population was male such as china?

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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 am

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No. None of that. Shame on you. This is not debate, this is not even discussion of an opinion. This is pure flamebait for the sake of flamebaiting. These are the rules. Familiarize yourself with them.

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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:08 am

Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:09 am

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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:09 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.

No, it's not.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.


Not really, you can still conduct an honest debate.
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Postby Caecuser » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.


That's only if you are going to continue down the same path.

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Postby Pandeeria » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.


It doesn't mean you leave. You just broke a rule and he is warning you, your not banned from this thread or any thing like that. And when will you reply to some of these people's posts?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:12 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.

No, that's just your signal to stop breaking the rules. Fleeing the debate just because you got your wrist slapped does not paint a very good picture of your purpose in posting on NSG. By all means, carry on with the debate. Just leave off on the petty flamebaiting.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:30 am

Ok so homosexuals in the United States are about 9 million link: http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm. According to Aids. gov " MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in the U.S. in 2009, as well as nearly half (49%) of people living with HIV in 2008 (the most recent year national prevalence data is available)." Now if there are 9 million homosexuals in US alone. 61% of all HIV cases so for have been gay.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:31 am

Caecuser wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:Well gentlemen, I have to go. I have been warned so thats my signal to leave.


That's only if you are going to continue down the same path.

That's probably going to happen.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:31 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Ok so homosexuals in the United States are about 9 million link: http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm. According to Aids. gov " MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in the U.S. in 2009, as well as nearly half (49%) of people living with HIV in 2008 (the most recent year national prevalence data is available)." Now if there are 9 million homosexuals in US alone. 61% of all HIV cases so for have been gay.

You don't understand how those statistics work, do you?
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:33 am

Liriena wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:Ok so homosexuals in the United States are about 9 million link: http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm. According to Aids. gov " MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in the U.S. in 2009, as well as nearly half (49%) of people living with HIV in 2008 (the most recent year national prevalence data is available)." Now if there are 9 million homosexuals in US alone. 61% of all HIV cases so for have been gay.

You don't understand how those statistics work, do you?


Well 61% of 9 million is 5,490, 000.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:34 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:Ok so homosexuals in the United States are about 9 million link: http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm. According to Aids. gov " MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in the U.S. in 2009, as well as nearly half (49%) of people living with HIV in 2008 (the most recent year national prevalence data is available)." Now if there are 9 million homosexuals in US alone. 61% of all HIV cases so for have been gay.

HIV/AIDS is not inherent to homosexuality. Lesbians have a low rate of HIV/AIDS infection. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/wsw.htm
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:36 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:You don't understand how those statistics work, do you?


Well 61% of 9 million is 5,490, 000.

Are you saying that 61% of gay people have HIV/AIDS? :rofl: That's not what your source says.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:37 am

Geilinor wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:Ok so homosexuals in the United States are about 9 million link: http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm. According to Aids. gov " MSM accounted for 61% of all new HIV infections in the U.S. in 2009, as well as nearly half (49%) of people living with HIV in 2008 (the most recent year national prevalence data is available)." Now if there are 9 million homosexuals in US alone. 61% of all HIV cases so for have been gay.

HIV/AIDS is not inherent to homosexuality. Lesbians have a low rate of HIV/AIDS infection. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/wsw.htm


Yes but just because a city has a low crime rate dosent mean that cops can just sit around, and do nothing right? Same thing applies to AIDS, lesbians can exchange bodily fluids during intercourse thus if one partner has AIDS she will pass it on.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:40 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Liriena wrote:You don't understand how those statistics work, do you?


Well 61% of 9 million is 5,490, 000.


No no no no.
There are only about 1.1 Million people in the United States with Aids. 64% of those are Homosexuals. That would mean that 704 Thousand of the people who have AIDS are Homosexuals.

It's all about Math. And yours is quite a bit off.
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Postby Lithosano » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:42 am

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Geilinor wrote:HIV/AIDS is not inherent to homosexuality. Lesbians have a low rate of HIV/AIDS infection. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/women/resources/factsheets/wsw.htm


Yes but just because a city has a low crime rate dosent mean that cops can just sit around, and do nothing right? Same thing applies to AIDS, lesbians can exchange bodily fluids during intercourse thus if one partner has AIDS she will pass it on.


That comparison is not even remotely similar.

You don't know how HIV/AIDS works, do you? The odds of "catching" HIV from any single sexual encounter is ~1 in 500, even less for lesbians.
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Postby Lithosano » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:44 am

Shazbotdom wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Well 61% of 9 million is 5,490, 000.


No no no no.
There are only about 1.1 Million people in the United States with Aids. 64% of those are Homosexuals. That would mean that 704 Thousand of the people who have AIDS are Homosexuals.

It's all about Math. And yours is quite a bit off.


That's still not correct, you used the wrong percentage. Only 49% of people with AIDS are LGBT.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:44 am

Lithosano wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Yes but just because a city has a low crime rate dosent mean that cops can just sit around, and do nothing right? Same thing applies to AIDS, lesbians can exchange bodily fluids during intercourse thus if one partner has AIDS she will pass it on.


That comparison is not even remotely similar.

You don't know how HIV/AIDS works, do you? The odds of "catching" HIV from any single sexual encounter is ~1 in 500, even less for lesbians.


Yes but how many people out there would have unprotected sex? Alot. Lesbians have no protection during intercourse.
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