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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:19 pm

Feel free to post now, Senators. I believe we should start off by debating the Safety & Order category.
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:23 pm

(This post serves as an example for submitting legislation, now that we have a new queue)

I would like to submit the Mobile Phone Vehicle Operation Restrictions Act to the queue in the Domestic Development category:

Mobile Phone Vehicle Operation Restrictions Act (MPVORA)
Written by: Venaleria [RG] | Sponsored by: Aeken [LD] HumanSanity [RG] Battlion [NLP] Polvia [RG] Rumostan [NLP] Fulflood [LD] New Sapienta [PCP] New Zephua [PCP] Kouralia [NSLP] Maklohi Vai [LD] Great Nepal [CFE] Otrenia [PMP] Britanno [President/PCP] | Urgency: High


The Senate of Aurentina,

APPALLED at the national and international levels of injury, death, and damage due to the usage of mobile phones during the operation of a motor vehicle
DISTRESSED at the fact that this issue has not been addressed sooner and that no legislator has thought of the importance of such an act
SURPRISED of the little caution or care which many motor vehicle operators take when in the usage of a motor vehicle
RECOMMENDS more legislation to be made in the future regarding motor vehicle safety

Hereby defines the following:

Mobile Phone: A type of telephone with access to a cellular radio system so that it may be used over largely encompassing area, without physical connection to a network
Motor Vehicle: A vehicle powered by that of an internal combustion engine
Motor Vehicle Operation: The system operation of the aforementioned motor vehicle, by driving or moving in any direction, at any speed, anywhere, for any reason, at any time
Severity Level: A status of severity or stringency which measures the effects of the usage of a mobile phone when in the operation of a motor vehicle. This is to be measured at the discretion of the constable or constables present with Severity Level I being the first and most casual of offenses while Severity Level X is the last and most serious
Educational Course in Accident Prevention (ECAP): A governmentally-sponsored and taught class to be focused on the effects and ways of which a violator of the mandates ahead can prevent accidents caused by the usage of a mobile phone while operating a motor vehicle.

Hereby mandates the following statements:

1. The usage of a mobile phone of any type or manufacturer shall be prohibited and deemed illegal while in the operation or driver's seat of a motor vehicle in order to prevent injury, death or damage from occurring because of these distractions
1a. Usage of a mobile phone while in operation of a motor vehicle shall also be prohibited and deemed illegal when the motor vehicle is still running on public roads and freeways, but has stopped for any reason; ex. stop lights
2. Enforcement of these restrictions shall be made by certified constables of the Local Constabularies and the Gendarmerie.
2a. Violations of these restrictions shall be punishable by the following measures, as seen fit by the constable or constables present depending on the severity and frequency of the issue:

1st Offense or Severity Level I- A first warning
2nd Offense or Severity Level II- A second warning
3rd Offense or Severity Level III- A citation of £35.00 or option of ECAP
4th Offense or Severity Level IV- A citation of £60.00 or option of ECAP
5th Offense or Severity Level V- A citation of £150.00 or option of ECAP
6th Offense or Severity Level VI- A citation of £320.00 or option of ECAP
7th Offense or Severity Level VII- A loss of license for 50 days with a required ECAP
8th Offense or Severity Level VIII- A loss of license for 75 days with a required ECAP
9th Offense or Severity Level IX- A loss of license for 100 days with a required ECAP
10th Offense or Severity Level X- An arrest, loss of license, and tow of vehicle (may only be applied if severe injury, death, or damage has been caused)

3. Makes it clear that this act shall not prohibit the usage of hands-free mobile devices or their applications while in the operation of a motor-vehicle


The Senate hereby instates the Mobile Phone Vehicle Operation Restrictions Act.
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Postby Ranbo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:23 pm

Venaleria wrote:Feel free to post now, Senators. I believe we should start off by debating the Safety & Order category.

I can already see that it is the section most packed full of legislation.
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Postby Gothmogs » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:23 pm

Venaleria wrote:Feel free to post now, Senators. I believe we should start off by debating the Safety & Order category.

Because of the insanely large amount of bills we have to read through, do you think it would be better to vote on one half first and then the other half later?
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:23 pm

Venaleria wrote:Feel free to post now, Senators. I believe we should start off by debating the Safety & Order category.

Um, i disagree with how you classified international relations and foreign affairs. Shouldnt eh military stuff be in the foreign affairs section?

Also, is there any possible way we could break up saftey and order a bit? 13 bills is.... very hard to work with
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:26 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Feel free to post now, Senators. I believe we should start off by debating the Safety & Order category.

Um, i disagree with how you classified international relations and foreign affairs. Shouldnt eh military stuff be in the foreign affairs section?

Also, is there any possible way we could break up saftey and order a bit? 13 bills is.... very hard to work with


Senator, I was told by the authors of the bills where to put their bills, I didn't classify them myself.

And yes, I was thinking we should probably break up the bill number.
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Postby Gothmogs » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:32 pm

Littering Prevention Act
Drafted By: Cengiz Harun (Gothmogs)
Sponsors: The Nihilistic View, Kamchastkia, Venaleria, Senator Arthur Marten

Littering is a big problem in all countries, as it is unappealing, distasteful, and just plain nasty. Many people feel it is okay to toss their used objects onto the ground wherever they happen to be, which is a problem this bill sets out to fix.

Defines trash for the purposes of this bill as objects that are no longer being used for any purpose.

Defines a waste bin for the purposes of this bill as a container, bag, or bin, which sole purpose is for the temporary holding of trash and/or waste.

Defines a landfill for the purposes of this bill as any area designated by the government for the holding of trash and/or waste.

Section 1 - Individual Disposal
1. It shall be illegal for a person to place trash on public property unless it is disposed of in a waste bin or landfill.
2. It shall be illegal for a person to place trash on private property unless it is disposed of in a waste bin with the consent of the owner or the owner of the private property gives consent to the placing of the trash on their property.
3. Any individual who disposes of trash on public property without it being in a waste bin or landfill shall be forced to pay a £50 fine and/or be forced to clean up the trash they disposed of illegally.
4. Any individual who disposes of trash on private property without the consent of the owner of the property or without it being in a waste bin with the consent of the owner of the property shall be forced to pay a £50 fine and/or be forced to clean up the trash they disposed of illegally.
5. Should trash disposed on private property be blown naturally onto public property ,or another individuals private property, the owner of the private property from which the trash was blown will be forced to pay a £50 fine and/or be forced to clean up the trash that was blown.

Section 2 - Collective Disposal
1. It shall be illegal for a collective group of people or a company to dispose of trash on public property unless it is disposed of in waste bin or landfill.
2. It shall be illegal for a collective group of people or a company to place trash on private property unless it is disposed of in a waste bin or landfill with the consent of the owner or the owner of the private property gives consent to the placing of the trash on their property.
3. Any collective group of people or company that disposes of trash on public property without it being in a waste bin or landfill shall be forced to pay a £100 fine and/or be forced to clean up the trash they disposed of illegally.
4. Any collective group of people or company that disposes of trash on private property without the consent of the owner or without it being in a waste bin or landfill with the consent of the owner shall be forced to pay a £100 fine and/or be forced to clean up the trash they disposed of illegally.

Section 3 - Constituency Powers
1. Constituency governments have the power to raise the fines for illegal disposal of trash.
2. Constituency governments have the power to lower the fines for illegal disposal of trash, but they may not lower it past the fines proposed in this bill.

Hereby passes the Littering Prevention Act

I motion to add this to Environment and Energy.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:37 pm

No, voting at all of them at once is perfectly fine. We can spend a bit longer debating/voting instead.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:37 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Um, i disagree with how you classified international relations and foreign affairs. Shouldnt eh military stuff be in the foreign affairs section?

Also, is there any possible way we could break up saftey and order a bit? 13 bills is.... very hard to work with


Senator, I was told by the authors of the bills where to put their bills, I didn't classify them myself.

And yes, I was thinking we should probably break up the bill number.

certainly you the senate president can reorganize bills as you see fit? Its not like it would be unreasonable. Or perhaps even make 2 saftey omnibuses.....
But 13 is simply too much
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:38 pm

Senators, it seems I have made a mistake. Foreign Affairs does not seem to be in the category selection of the original SIMBEDS bill, and I question why.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Senator, I was told by the authors of the bills where to put their bills, I didn't classify them myself.

And yes, I was thinking we should probably break up the bill number.

certainly you the senate president can reorganize bills as you see fit? Its not like it would be unreasonable. Or perhaps even make 2 saftey omnibuses.....
But 13 is simply too much

Why, cant senators read 13 bills and decide in 24 hours?
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Great Nepal wrote:No, voting at all of them at once is perfectly fine. We can spend a bit longer debating/voting instead.


I agree, but the problem is mostly counting. The vote count would be extremely confusing and it would take an immense amount of time and energy to plan out and operate.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No, voting at all of them at once is perfectly fine. We can spend a bit longer debating/voting instead.


I agree, but the problem is mostly counting. The vote count would be extremely confusing and it would take an immense amount of time and energy to plan out and operate.

Not if every senator has to add their vote to the count at end of the voting themselves. Vote count would be self-maintained.
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:41 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Senator, I was told by the authors of the bills where to put their bills, I didn't classify them myself.

And yes, I was thinking we should probably break up the bill number.

certainly you the senate president can reorganize bills as you see fit? Its not like it would be unreasonable. Or perhaps even make 2 saftey omnibuses.....
But 13 is simply too much


(the president of the senate is vice-president, just so you know)

I could, but it's a little more complicated than that. The name "Foreign Affairs" does not exactly give the military vibe. But nor does "International Relations".
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:41 pm

Once I get home, I will be introducing a bill that strikes the debate time mandate from the Second Constitution and replaces it with a system more fit for SIMBEDS. This bill had also been TGd to several people, so I give anyone who has sponsored the bill the power to post it in the chamber so people can see it. I will make the official addition to the queue later.
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Postby Venaleria » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
I agree, but the problem is mostly counting. The vote count would be extremely confusing and it would take an immense amount of time and energy to plan out and operate.

Not if every senator has to add their vote to the count at end of the voting themselves. Vote count would be self-maintained.


Maybe, but that would most certainly cause counting issues and it would take up a TON of space.
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