by Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:09 am
by The Archregimancy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:49 am
by Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:51 am
by Disserbia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:40 am
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
by Forsakia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:42 am
The Archregimancy wrote:Much as I like Gladstone, Disraeli was an excellent Prime Minister. Unscrupulous, slippery, and by no means a team player, but likely in the lower reaches of the top 10 since the Great Reform Act thanks to his second spell as PM. The Public Health Act, the Education Act, and the Employers and Workmen's Act, the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act were all cornerstones of the one of the great reforming Victorian governments, and a government that played a central role in protecting workers rights; there's a reason why the Tories have been obsessed with "One Nation Conservatism" ever since Disraeli dreamt up the concept.
As to worst post-1832 Prime Ministers, Eden and Roseberry were both worse than Gordon Brown.
by Geo » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:43 am
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
by Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:44 am
Disserbia wrote:Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
I was going to take bets on how many posts it would take for someone to say this. NSG I am disappoint.
by Chestaan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:46 am
by Scholencia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:49 am
Heavenly Peace wrote:To coincide with the 'Who was the worst American President' thread I shall be asking of all the Prime Ministers that Britain has experienced since Walpole, which do you believe to have been the worst? I would have to say D'isreali and Gordon Brown. As for the best... Gladstone.
I think if we take cricket into the equation, Sir Alec Douglas-Home is certainly the greatest Prime Minister.
by Forsakia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:50 am
Scholencia wrote:Heavenly Peace wrote:To coincide with the 'Who was the worst American President' thread I shall be asking of all the Prime Ministers that Britain has experienced since Walpole, which do you believe to have been the worst? I would have to say D'isreali and Gordon Brown. As for the best... Gladstone.
I think if we take cricket into the equation, Sir Alec Douglas-Home is certainly the greatest Prime Minister.
The guy who was Prime minister during the American independence war.
by Forsakia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:54 am
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
by Stormaen » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:55 am
by Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:58 am
Forsakia wrote:Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
You've managed to pick two of the traditionally highest rated PMs.
by Forsakia » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:58 am
Stormaen wrote:This reply is politically neutral.
The only area I have any advanced knowledge in is post Second World War prime ministers; of which, I would say James Callaghan (Labour) was the worst closely followed by Anthony Eden (Conservative).
The best post-WW2 prime minister, IMHO, would be Clement Atlee (Labour). In only 5 years he turned this country around and rebuilt this nation from the ruins of war. There were some hiccups but ultimately he probably accomplished more in 5 years than any prime minister before or since.
I'd say the best prime minister purely in terms of setting an agenda and accomplishing that agenda (regardless of the politics), would be Margaret Thatcher (Conservative). In the prime of her premiership, she had support from her party like no prime minister before or since and there was (compared to other ministries in the past and since) very little opposition within her ministry. It's rare for a leader to have such solid support for so long as she did; especially in this day and age.
by Maledixit » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:01 am
by The Archregimancy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:07 am
Forsakia wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:Much as I like Gladstone, Disraeli was an excellent Prime Minister. Unscrupulous, slippery, and by no means a team player, but likely in the lower reaches of the top 10 since the Great Reform Act thanks to his second spell as PM. The Public Health Act, the Education Act, and the Employers and Workmen's Act, the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act were all cornerstones of the one of the great reforming Victorian governments, and a government that played a central role in protecting workers rights; there's a reason why the Tories have been obsessed with "One Nation Conservatism" ever since Disraeli dreamt up the concept.
As to worst post-1832 Prime Ministers, Eden and Roseberry were both worse than Gordon Brown.
How dare you sir, winning the Derby twice in 13 months is no small achievement.
by The Whispers » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:10 am
by Heavenly Peace » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:14 am
by AiliailiA » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:16 am
Disserbia wrote:Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Thatcher. Oh God, Thatcher. Literally the only thing her government had done correctly was the liberation of the Falkland Islands from the Argentine invasion. Her domestic policies were a tragedy.
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Aside from the Iron Lady, I'd say Lloyd George - he couldn't unite his coalition government well, left a string of scandals behind him and generally made a mess of what was a perfectly salvageable position.
I was going to take bets on how many posts it would take for someone to say this. NSG I am disappoint.
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by Nova Imperius » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:17 am
by Geo » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:18 am
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