by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:42 am
by Hurdegaryp » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:49 am
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by The Tiger Kingdom » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:52 am
by Hurdegaryp » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:54 am
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.
by Zweite Alaje » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:09 am
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:14 am
Zweite Alaje wrote:A Libertarian president?
Nah, an increase in the libertarian voter base will only make it easier for more democrats to get in office. The Republicans and Libertarians are pulling from the same base.
by Winland » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:16 am
Zweite Alaje wrote:A Libertarian president?
Nah, an increase in the libertarian voter base will only make it easier for more democrats to get in office. The Republicans and Libertarians are pulling from the same base.
by Tubbsalot » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:16 am
Regnum Dominae wrote:I am often more sympathetic to Democrats than Republicans.
Regnum Dominae wrote:Rand Paul seriously needs to defect.
by Winland » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:20 am
Tubbsalot wrote:I'm sure there're some libertarians in the US who aren't totally ridiculous.
by Zweite Alaje » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:20 am
Regnum Dominae wrote:Zweite Alaje wrote:A Libertarian president?
Nah, an increase in the libertarian voter base will only make it easier for more democrats to get in office. The Republicans and Libertarians are pulling from the same base.
No, not true at all.
I am often more sympathetic to Democrats than Republicans. The Akin/Mourdock fiasco has left me with nothing but disgust at the GOP. Rand Paul seriously needs to defect.
by Luveria » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:20 am
Zweite Alaje wrote:Meh, what do I know? From my point of view the libertarians combine to worst elements of the two major parties into a horrid clusterfuck. They're social liberals like the Dems and fiscal conservatives like the GOP..... *barf*
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:22 am
by Zweite Alaje » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:23 am
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:25 am
by Zweite Alaje » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:28 am
by Winland » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:29 am
Luveria wrote:Regnum Dominae wrote:And completely sell out on foreign policy.
For many people, the democrats aren't socially liberal enough.
I don't think they are socially liberal enough at all but since democrats can win against republicans that's certainly a better option than letting the GOP have their way.
by Zweite Alaje » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:30 am
Winland wrote:Luveria wrote:
I don't think they are socially liberal enough at all but since democrats can win against republicans that's certainly a better option than letting the GOP have their way.
My hope is that both the GOP and Dems die off and the Libertarians and Greens bacome the main parties fighting it out.
by Luveria » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:30 am
Winland wrote:Luveria wrote:
I don't think they are socially liberal enough at all but since democrats can win against republicans that's certainly a better option than letting the GOP have their way.
My hope is that both the GOP and Dems die off and the Libertarians and Greens bacome the main parties fighting it out.
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:33 am
Winland wrote:Luveria wrote:
I don't think they are socially liberal enough at all but since democrats can win against republicans that's certainly a better option than letting the GOP have their way.
My hope is that both the GOP and Dems die off and the Libertarians and Greens bacome the main parties fighting it out.
by Luveria » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:37 am
Regnum Dominae wrote:Winland wrote:My hope is that both the GOP and Dems die off and the Libertarians and Greens bacome the main parties fighting it out.
That's my hope, too.
Either that or the Democrats can evolve into Greens and Republicans evolve into Libertarians.
Though I'm not sure I'd want to belong to a party that 20 years ago was advocating rape.
With a Greens vs Libertarians system we'd at least have the silly foreign policy and social freedom debates (mostly) out of the way.
by Regnum Dominae » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:40 am
Luveria wrote:Regnum Dominae wrote:That's my hope, too.
Either that or the Democrats can evolve into Greens and Republicans evolve into Libertarians.
Though I'm not sure I'd want to belong to a party that 20 years ago was advocating rape.
With a Greens vs Libertarians system we'd at least have the silly foreign policy and social freedom debates (mostly) out of the way.
I think the republicans are only going to get more extreme before they become more moderate.
by TreLanka » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:40 am
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