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Postby Morrdh » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:25 am

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TO: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania,

As you are no doubt aware by now that the Commonwealth of Morrdh takes a rather poor view on your Subversive Activities and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act, in an ideal world this Act wouldn't exist but you've have stubbornly made clear your intentions to keep it despite how undemocratic it is.

If you truly support democracy and freedom like you say you do then at least consider our proposal for an amendment to SADIARA.

Allow more moderate left wing parties with no connections to extremists and are committed to democracy, if the Hippostanian people are so against the Left like you have claim then you'll have no worry about them winning any elections whilst at the same time it proves to the world that you are as democratic as you claim to be.

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Postby Union Sud Americano » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:26 am

Saludos to you, Hippostania. A word with you from the leading party of Estados Aliados del Unión Sud-Americano, the Bloque Rioja Colectivo del Anarquicas Comunistes Primitivos and especially its 'Red Branch', the economically concerned or what you would call the 'Communists'.

In our confederal alliance between estados Sudamericanos, for example Bolivia, Paraguay, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and so on, we have a certain something called democracy and political freedom. We have two large rivaling partidos politicos: the CLIIN (Coalición del Libertad Individual y Independencia Nacional), the capitalists and nationalists whose sole wish is for self-profit and destruction of the EAUSA, the Unión for la paz between us and other nations, especially the United States of America. Their support is higher in Argentina and Brazil, but still lower than the BRCACP's.

My point being, la pueblo has democratically voted for us, just like the Chileans voted for Salvador Allende before Pinochet's tyranny and Cubans voted for Carlos Prío Socarrás before Batista's military coup. The people are as free to vote as they are to follow Dios, or God, in case you couldn't understand me. People can vote for us, the CLIIN, or the Partido del Mercenarios Unificados (PMU for short), more third way in economy but socially egoist.

We suggest you to do the same to your people by abolishing the whole absurd legislation. You are for libertad individual and democracia, si? I can see the majority of your people are right-wingers. It is like here, in the ASUSA. But here the majority are, on the contrary, left-wingers, amigo! You do not need to fear some stalinic or maoist fringe groups. Your disdain for extremismo is understandable, but leftists and centre-leftist are far from the far-left, if you catch my drift!

Open the doors of liberty, compañero, and shake hands with us! :)
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:04 am

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Official Statement of the FreeSocian Government and Foreign Ministry

While the FreeSocian government is not surprised by Hippostania's grotesque violation of basic human rights, it is nonetheless disgusted and has consequently chosen to register this disgust publicly.

First of all, the FreeSocian government would like to enquire as to how socialism and communism are antidemocratic, as Hippostanian officials seem to lack understanding on any level of the basic ideas behind both communism and socialism. It would like to offer itself as an example of how the Hippostanian government is laughably wrong about its assertions that socialism is antidemocratic.

Secondly, the Freesocian government questions how Hippostania can claim to be a democracy when it so readily and regularly persecutes those whose ideas differ from that of the ruling parties in a fundamentally anti-democratic way. It also points out that Hippostania's latest insistence upon outlawing left-wing minority parties constitutes something of a tyranny by majority, something which should be condemned by all freedom-loving peoples.

Finally, the FreeSocian government would like to officially condemn all parties and all MPs who voted in favour of this repellent fascistic legislation, as it has become evident that they are little more than capitalist pawns intent upon destroying freedom of expression. Their lack of moral fibre has been noted and will be considered in any future negotiations with Hippostania.

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Postby Virabia » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:56 am

Hippostania wrote:

From: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania
To: Representative of the State of Virabia


Indeed, there is no excuse for what we did; however, there are very good reasons for our tradition of passing SADIARA every decade. SADIARA protects the property rights and individual liberties of all Hippostanians from the leftist hordes, seeking to strike fear, terror and death into the hearts of innocent Hippostanians. SADIARA acts as our vanguard against evil and protects the freedoms that our people hold dear.

Democracy does not give you a right to support ideals and ideologies which violate the most basic ideas of enlightenment; natural rights of life, liberty and property which our nation was founded upon after the Hippostanian Civil War. Our citizens hold these values dear and no materialistic socialist bastards may ever sway these three great values.

As such, Republic of Hippostania as no intention to bow to foreign pressure and start any kind of talks concerning the repeal of SADIARA. We will never, ever ever allow communist hordes to run wild in our country. This is non-negotiable. End of discussion.



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Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania


From: Carlos Alaméncía, President of the Über Democratic Republic of Virabia
To: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania

I personally find it humourous that in one paragraph you claim to defend the individual liberties of your citizens and then you defend an act which strips them of the liberty to think and speak as they will. Free speech, I remind you, was one of the foremost ideals of the enlightenment era of which you are so fond. SADIARA runs counter to the very ideals which you claim to defend.

You also make socialists out to be the biggest scourge facing your country. That is not reality. The very fact that voting against the bill is considered political suicide should show that far-left ideologies are far from a problem in your country. If this is the case why pass the bill. The fact that this is celebrated, shows that those who hold such ideologies are the vast minority, so why not let them have the right to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness that you feel all should have the right to.

Should they not be the minority in the future, then you should accept that the attitude of your people has changed and, like any democracy adapt in a way that shows the will of the people.

Nevertheless, your unwillingness to negotiate on this issue is disappointing. Given the controversy your nation attracts, I feel repealing this legislation would do some good in repairing the image of your nation in the world.

Finally, I'd like to organise talks around the possibility of Hippostanian leftists finding refuge within the confederacy.

Thanks
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Postby Phocidaea » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:12 am

Congratulations. How many more years of this tyranny? Please, please, please, pass the "Townsend's Bodyguard Presence Reduction Act" next, so the assassins can move in.

If Hippostania is as tough as it thinks, why does it resort to childish shaming and draconian legislation to enforce its agenda?

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Disclaimer: This is not an official missive from the Phocidaean government, but please note that the viewpoints espoused in it are more or less supported by the government and populace of the nation, and so this document may as well be treated as such.
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Postby Cevalo Nacio » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:32 am

President Francis Gatzby stood in the room where Cevalan Press Conferences were usually held.

When the time came, a reporter asked "What is your opinion of the Hippostanians renewing the immigration bill?". He looked into the mans eye and and simply replied "As a Socialist and a Trotskyist, this should disturb me but...its Hippostania!" he lit a large cigar and smoked it in an exaggerated manner. "The fact is, the majority of Hippostanians support such actions and we have no right to interfere with Hippostanian Self Determination. We strongly stand against the imperialist moves of Hippostania, the so called 'interventionism' but what they do on their own turf is their own business"
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Postby Cruciland » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:45 am

The lasting vigilance of Hippostania pleases us, and to this day continues to make us look favorably upon their people. We encourage this renewal to remain in effect up to the next decade, whereupon it is encouraged to be renewed. We are proud to recognize your sovereignty, Hippostania, and wish you well in the fight against mankind's enemies.
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Postby East Klent » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:36 pm



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A Message from the Office of the President

Recipient(s): Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania
Date: Jan 4, 2013

Sender(s): Col. Cash Theodore Willows (Ret.), President of the Constitutional Republic of East Klent
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To the esteemed High Chancellor Townsend of the Republic of Hippostania,

As President of the Constitutional Republic of East Klent, it is my duty to inform you that at five minutes past three in the afternoon local time, I signed legislation enacting a complete embargo against Hippostania until the Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act is repealed by your Parliament. The legislation was introduced in our Congress by Republican Senator William Jones and passed with an overwhelming majority in all three houses. There is, however, a small coalition of twenty Unionist and Republican representatives who voted against the bill and are introducing a motion to repeal the embargo. Our nose count suggests that there will not be enough votes in the House to pass the bill up to the other two houses.

Having personally fought against the tyranny of Communist rule I have seen the abuses of a Communist regime first-hand, so I do understand your government's sentiment behind SADIARA and why there is the feeling that you must follow tradition in renewing it, however it is the twenty-first century and as such it is time to end all political intolerance. If a majority of your citizenry approves of the measure, then there is no reason to fear of a Communist uprising since there seem to be little to none of thin within your borders.

I call on you, High Chancellor, to call for the repeal of SADIARA for the sake of political freedom and open a dialogue with the leftists to prevent the extremism that is feared; then ans only then will the embargo be lifted.


Please heed my requests.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Postby Luminosia » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:46 am

Official statement of the Luminosian government



We, the people of Luminosia, have condemned your shameful attempts towards political repression, by renewing this so-called "SADIARA", which took Hippostania a step backward towards true freedom and democracy. While we have nothing against Hippostania at all, "SADIARA" has gone way too far, when it comes to us, and we believe that it does more harm than good, as well as their "Prohibition" and theIr aggressive imperialism.

We would be glad to accept Hippostanian political refugees, until the Townsend regime shows its kindness towards its people and makes some reforms.



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Postby Bleckonia » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:23 pm

Hippostania wrote:

From: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania
To: Representative of the State of Virabia


Indeed, there is no excuse for what we did; however, there are very good reasons for our tradition of passing SADIARA every decade. SADIARA protects the property rights and individual liberties of all Hippostanians from the leftist hordes, seeking to strike fear, terror and death into the hearts of innocent Hippostanians. SADIARA acts as our vanguard against evil and protects the freedoms that our people hold dear.

Democracy does not give you a right to support ideals and ideologies which violate the most basic ideas of enlightenment; natural rights of life, liberty and property which our nation was founded upon after the Hippostanian Civil War. Our citizens hold these values dear and no materialistic socialist bastards may ever sway these three great values.

As such, Republic of Hippostania as no intention to bow to foreign pressure and start any kind of talks concerning the repeal of SADIARA. We will never, ever ever allow communist hordes to run wild in our country. This is non-negotiable. End of discussion.



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Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania


If so many Hippostanians are anti-communist, then why is it necessary to have this law? The communists would be small in number, have practically no influence on politics, and would be opposed by most of the population anyway. It would also help foreign relations, so that's a plus.
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Postby Union Sureno America » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:43 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:

From: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania
To: Representative of the State of Virabia


Indeed, there is no excuse for what we did; however, there are very good reasons for our tradition of passing SADIARA every decade. SADIARA protects the property rights and individual liberties of all Hippostanians from the leftist hordes, seeking to strike fear, terror and death into the hearts of innocent Hippostanians. SADIARA acts as our vanguard against evil and protects the freedoms that our people hold dear.

Democracy does not give you a right to support ideals and ideologies which violate the most basic ideas of enlightenment; natural rights of life, liberty and property which our nation was founded upon after the Hippostanian Civil War. Our citizens hold these values dear and no materialistic socialist bastards may ever sway these three great values.

As such, Republic of Hippostania as no intention to bow to foreign pressure and start any kind of talks concerning the repeal of SADIARA. We will never, ever ever allow communist hordes to run wild in our country. This is non-negotiable. End of discussion.



Signed by
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Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania


If so many Hippostanians are anti-communist, then why is it necessary to have this law? The communists would be small in number, have practically no influence on politics, and would be opposed by most of the population anyway. It would also help foreign relations, so that's a plus.

Oh ho ho, you obviously do not know la pueblo del Hippostania, amigo. The only plausible explanation is that they could be swayed from one side of the political spectrum to another, and so, the current view must be enforced with a law so that Colin Townsend won't lose any power on their turf.
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Postby Tuthina » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:55 am

Bleckonia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:

From: Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania
To: Representative of the State of Virabia


Indeed, there is no excuse for what we did; however, there are very good reasons for our tradition of passing SADIARA every decade. SADIARA protects the property rights and individual liberties of all Hippostanians from the leftist hordes, seeking to strike fear, terror and death into the hearts of innocent Hippostanians. SADIARA acts as our vanguard against evil and protects the freedoms that our people hold dear.

Democracy does not give you a right to support ideals and ideologies which violate the most basic ideas of enlightenment; natural rights of life, liberty and property which our nation was founded upon after the Hippostanian Civil War. Our citizens hold these values dear and no materialistic socialist bastards may ever sway these three great values.

As such, Republic of Hippostania as no intention to bow to foreign pressure and start any kind of talks concerning the repeal of SADIARA. We will never, ever ever allow communist hordes to run wild in our country. This is non-negotiable. End of discussion.



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Colin Townsend, High Chancellor of the Republic of Hippostania


If so many Hippostanians are anti-communist, then why is it necessary to have this law? The communists would be small in number, have practically no influence on politics, and would be opposed by most of the population anyway. It would also help foreign relations, so that's a plus.

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If the Imperial Government of Tuthina cares about it, then we would be in support of this bill, as it shows a clear message about the core values the nation of Hippostania seeks to defend, a bold and commendable action of which we believe gives the nation the justification of its existence.
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Postby Union Sureno America » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:13 am

Tuthina wrote:
Bleckonia wrote:
If so many Hippostanians are anti-communist, then why is it necessary to have this law? The communists would be small in number, have practically no influence on politics, and would be opposed by most of the population anyway. It would also help foreign relations, so that's a plus.

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If the Imperial Government of Tuthina cares about it, then we would be in support of this bill, as it shows a clear message about the core values the nation of Hippostania seeks to defend, a bold and commendable action of which we believe gives the nation the justification of its existence.

'Core values', a phrase which here means McCarthyism, neoliberalism and dictatorisation. Defenders of liberty and property they are... but not freedom of speech nor freedom of opinion. What more liberties are you supposed to defend than the freedom to choke oneself into the amount of property while piling it up?
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Postby Tuthina » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:39 am

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Tuthina wrote:(Image)

If the Imperial Government of Tuthina cares about it, then we would be in support of this bill, as it shows a clear message about the core values the nation of Hippostania seeks to defend, a bold and commendable action of which we believe gives the nation the justification of its existence.

'Core values', a phrase which here means McCarthyism, neoliberalism and dictatorisation. Defenders of liberty and property they are... but not freedom of speech nor freedom of opinion. What more liberties are you supposed to defend than the freedom to choke oneself into the amount of property while piling it up?

Which is a valid core value as the majority of the Hippostanian people support this, and our government do not see freedom of speech or freedom of opinion to be something inalienable. We believe there should be no rights before the rights for a nation to preserve or create a core value that makes itself stands amongst the multitude of people within the world.
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Postby Hippostania » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 am

Tuthina wrote:
Union Sureno America wrote:'Core values', a phrase which here means McCarthyism, neoliberalism and dictatorisation. Defenders of liberty and property they are... but not freedom of speech nor freedom of opinion. What more liberties are you supposed to defend than the freedom to choke oneself into the amount of property while piling it up?

Which is a valid core value as the majority of the Hippostanian people support this, and our government do not see freedom of speech or freedom of opinion to be something inalienable. We believe there should be no rights before the rights for a nation to preserve or create a core value that makes itself stands amongst the multitude of people within the world.

Just what I was going to say. Liberty to get as much stuff as possible is the most respected value among all Hippostanians.
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Postby Dungeyland » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:55 am

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"LIBERTY SAFEGUARDED" CLAIMS CHANCELLOR TOWNSEND


WAVERLEY - The Republic of Hippostania has renewed the Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act, commonly known as SADIARA or the Anti-Communist Bill, which outlaws the ideologies of communism and socialism within the Hippostanian Republic. The bill passed unanimously without a single "nay" or abstention, and is not subject to renewal until 2023.
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High Chancellor Colin Townsend declared today that he was proud to "safeguard liberty" for yet another generation. The Communist Party of Hippostania has been banned since 1923, along with the Socialist Revolutionary Party, both of which were lynched on a daily basis by members of the public. Even police officers used violence and intimidation against the communist and socialist parties.

In order to make the violence against socialist ideologies legal under Hippostanian law, Parliament drafted and passed SADIARA. SADIARA ordered the disbanding of any parties supporting a "left-wing ideal". This loose terminology is what causes the most outrage internationally today, as it is widely supposed that this law can be used to disband any political party.

Furthermore, "sympathisers" with the left-wing parties are forbidden from entering public office and are forbidden from gathering with like-minded individuals. It is widely thought of as an affront to true freedom and democracy. The bill was renewed with no opposition, and was celebrated publicly with a cross-party consensus. Sonja Wick, a member of a "left-wing" party, said she "realised that far-left ideologies mustn't be tolerated in a free society."

Many fascist nations such as Zokoria came to the defence of Hippostania, which claimed that all opponents were part of a "global socialist conspiracy."
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Postby Greater New York » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:59 pm

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Recipient(s): High Chancellor Colin Townsend of the Republic of Hippostania
Sender(s): President Nicholas Caeus of the Republic of New York
Concerning: New York's Condemnation of the Anti-Communist Bill


To the High Chancellor of Hippostania,

Despite the unpopularity of Communism, Socialism, and Anarchism in our nation, and my government's active stance against those three respective ideologies, the Republic of New York must condemn the Republic of Hippostania for its clear violation of basic political rights. The Congress of New York therefore passed an official condemnation of Hippostania with a 132-18 vote in the House of Representatives and a 30-4 vote in the Senate, which officially states New York's attitude towards the issue of SADIARA. The vote passed the Congress at 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, and was signed by myself at 11:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, and will officially go into effect at 12:01 AM on January 7th, 2013. Our condemnation signals our government's disapproval of your governments renewal of SADIARA, which despite its existence since 1923, has constantly violated the free expression of your people, particularly those belonging politically to Communist and Socialist organizations.

The Republic of New York must therefore officially join the international community in condemning the Republic of Hippostania, which we feel has despite the massive amount of international pressure, has ignored calls to expand basic human rights to members of the far-left within its nation. Hippostania has in recent years consistently been shrinking the basic political rights of those the government deems to be "threatening" to its government, and while our own government may have felt that way for a time in the 1920s, we have never taken the extra step of banning political parties we felt would be inconvenient to the political process. If Hippostania's clear violations of basic human rights continues, the Republic of New York will be forced to declare an embargo against all Hippostanian imports to our nation, and to ban all exports to Hippostania. We sincerely hope that the Republic of Hippostania will over time choose to repeal SADIARA, or to let it die naturally in 2023 on the centennial of its passing.

Excelsior!

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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:19 pm

Greater New York wrote:Despite the unpopularity of Communism, Socialism, and Anarchism in our nation, and my government's active stance against those three respective ideologies, the Republic of New York must condemn the Republic of Hippostania for its clear violation of basic political rights.

Being allowed to advocate the violent overthrow of a democratic government is anything but a "basic" political right. Anarchists and revolutionary socialists are a threat to free and democratic societies everywhere.

For those Americans here who really think basic political rights are curbed by a law such as this, just look at the laws of your real-life country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_anarchy_in_the_United_States

Criminal anarchy laws exist in almost all U.S. states.

Anarchism and revolutionary socialism are also prohibited by federal law. See 18 USC § 2385:

Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

Criminal anarchy laws have been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. The First Amendment does not protect actions or speech aimed at the overthrow of the government.
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Postby Finno Ugric Pride » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:34 am

Finally! This is a long waited change for the better. Hippostania is famous for resuming the fight against the irrational mouth-breathers of this world known as revolutionaries. Keep at it, Mister Townsend. You and your people will be prosperous in no time!
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:38 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Greater New York wrote:Despite the unpopularity of Communism, Socialism, and Anarchism in our nation, and my government's active stance against those three respective ideologies, the Republic of New York must condemn the Republic of Hippostania for its clear violation of basic political rights.

Being allowed to advocate the violent overthrow of a democratic government is anything but a "basic" political right. Anarchists and revolutionary socialists are a threat to free and democratic societies everywhere.

For those Americans here who really think basic political rights are curbed by a law such as this, just look at the laws of your real-life country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_anarchy_in_the_United_States

Criminal anarchy laws exist in almost all U.S. states.

Anarchism and revolutionary socialism are also prohibited by federal law. See 18 USC § 2385:

Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

Criminal anarchy laws have been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. The First Amendment does not protect actions or speech aimed at the overthrow of the government.


OOC: That's why they transitioned from violent revolution to using the democratic system to achieve revolution. That happened in the United States (this is an American talking since you practically offended me with the OOC bit directed towards us). However, nowhere does anything mention that we are required to listen to their policies nor vote for them. The CPUSA barely gets any votes and that trend shall continue until the end of the US as we know it. In my nation, I RP those sorts of parties (communists, socialists, national socialists, etc.) not having a chance in hell of getting any representation (except that the national socialists are banned from elections and political-appointed jobs of all kinds for very good reasons) but I do not outlaw membership in these parties nor persecute them if they are peaceful. When they turn into violent revolutionists or seek to go that route, then we act. Hippo's communists can most certainly act like the CPUSA with having piss poor support minus the violent revolution bit (and even outlawing them from trying to seek political office) but they won't be going anywhere if the populace doesn't want them in power period.

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Postby Noordeinde » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:31 pm

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To: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, The Republic of Hippostania;
Subject: SADIARA.

Your Excellency,

I hereby would like to express my sincere worries about your parliament once more adopting the 'Subversive and Dangerous Ideologies and Activities Restriction Act' - also known as the 'Anti-Communist bill'. Ever since the adoption of SADIARA in 1923 all Noordeindean Presidents and their administrations have expressed their concerns about this piece of legislation - to your current and previous governments - every decade that this bill was put up for a vote.

The reason for being concerned about this situation is because for another ten years to come, restrictions will be forced upon leftist movents, organisations, labour unions and even political parties. We may basically say that said organisations will outlawed for another decade. This is not only outrageous but it 's also a clear violation of a large number of World Assembly Resolutions (GA RES. #2 ‘Rights and Duties of WA States’, GA RES. #9 ‘Prevention of Torture’, GA RES. #27 ‘Freedom of Assembly’, GA GA RES. #30, ’Charter of Civil Rights’, GA RES. #35, Freedom of Expression, GA RES. #43, WA Labor Relations Act and GA RES. #174, Right to Petition).

It is therefore a shame - especially for a fellow Member State of the World Assembly - that basic freedoms like Freedom of Speech or Freedom of Assembly no longer exist in your country for said organisations. My administration strongly urges the Hippostanian Government and it's leadership to veto this particular bill and to get rid of it for once and for all. I have also decided to call back our Ambassador to Hippostania - the Rt. Honourable Peter Brunswick - untill further notice for immediate consultations about this issue.

As a courtesy I hereby also would like to inform the Hippostation Government that today I have personally summoned your Ambassador in Noordeinde, Mr. Francois Surchac, to come to my Office in order to provide me and the Secretary of State with a first hand explanation about the current political situation in both your country and at the World Assembly.


Sincerely Yours,
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Postby Verdeguay » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:10 pm

“The Republic of Hippostania has struck a decisive blow against the forces of totalitarianism. Few nations on Earth have opposed the specter of international Communism as courageously, resolutely, or forcefully as Hippostania has. Their crusade against the Godless ideology of Bolshevism is an inspiration to every man, woman, and child who cherishes freedom and democracy. High Chancellor Townsend is a principled, upstanding, and, dare I say, truly heroic man deserving of our full support. The Republic of Verdeguay extends to him, his people, and his nation our hand in eternal friendship. The very fact that so many nations are ostracizing and condemning Hippostania proves that they are on the right side of history. The totalitarians squirm at the mere mention of Hippostania.

In honor of the High Chancellor's stance against Communism, I hereby award him the Grand Cross of the Order of Francisco Carlos Mauricio Rodríguez López, my nation's highest honor. In addition, the department of Matagalpa will be renamed Canciller Townsend in his honor. Finally, the Chamber of Representatives has, at my request, unanimously granted honorary Verdeguayan citizenship to Mr. Townsend.

I invite the High Chancellor to visit Verdeguay at any time to discuss possible Hippostanian-Verdeguayan cooperation in the fight against Communism.”

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Postby The Legion of Kane » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:23 pm

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From : The Pony Republic of Lunestia


We are disgusted at the Hippostanian disregardance of simple human rights. It seems that Hippostanian officials didn't pass the class on 'political beliefs' seeing as they do not know how socialism and communism works.
Socialism all works if democracy is mixed in, and Communism is represented wrong to the world as many moronic leaders abuse it and give it a bad name. Communism can be good for the people as long as a power hungry leader doesn't get into office.

It seems so obvious that Hippostania has a big mouth, but a little mind.

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