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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

AuSable River wrote:I can make 10 posts for everyone that this malvoren makes.

I mean if you have an ideological belief, then defend it -- what is this guy waiting for ??

must be scrambling to find more bs links

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Postby Bozton » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.

How is an idiot screaming at people about big government and liberal zombies remind you of Pokemon? Just curious...

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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


I get bs sources and ad hominems from dudes like malvoren and virtually every else and I issue a simple challenge of

"DO you think that the hundreds of millions in campaign contributions corrupts politicians ?'

and the lefties run and hide ?


People have repeatedly answered your arguments and used credible sources. Despite this your good self seems ignore or refuse to accept said arguments and issue childish challenges and ultimatums left(ist) right and centre.
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Postby Allied Transhuman States » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:02 pm

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Eh, Team Rocket are better at debate.


I wonder what side they'd take.


They want to take anything they want from anybody they want, have no real idea of how the real world works, are concerned with only themselves, and are ultimately self-defeating.

Libertarian, obviously.

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Postby Avenio » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:02 pm

AuSable River wrote:you didnt answer my question --- i will issue it for the 3rd time -- do you think that the hundreds of millions of dollars that obama has gotten in campaign contributions since 2008 corrupts the process ?????


Avenio wrote:Can it corrupt? Sure. Does it necessarily corrupt? No.

This has been Simple Answers to Simple Questions.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:03 pm

AuSable River wrote:you didnt answer my question --- i will issue it for the 3rd time -- do you think that the hundreds of millions of dollars that obama has gotten in campaign contributions since 2008 corrupts the process ?????


and yes, I understand and I believe that the campaign largesse corrupts republican candidates.


Yes and no.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:03 pm

Zionale wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.


really? I'm actually intrigued by this. Can you explain please?


Issuing challenges and ultimatums all the time, sort of becoming farcical. Maybe more like Yu Gi Owe on further thought. The game not the poster.
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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:04 pm

since malovern is curled up in a fetal position and sucking his thumb under his computer.

I would like the zombies to answer this question --- (we have to go slow for your benefit)

trust me on this, some of you will understand where I am going but keep quiet for the slow liberals:

here is the question:


"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.

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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:04 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
I wonder what side they'd take.


Well, they're clearly AnCaps, they only respond to the authority of a tyrannical businessman.


Win. :lol:
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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:04 pm

Bozton wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.

How is an idiot screaming at people about big government and liberal zombies remind you of Pokemon? Just curious...


Bozton is right you know.

One features a creature in yellow who can only repeat the same thing over and over.

The other, of course, is an episode of Pokemon.
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Postby Beiluxia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:04 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:The only reason my head would explode would be due to your horrible spelling, grammar, and inability to even take one second to look at my name.

I never said that.


It sure is a stupid one though.



you didnt answer my question --- i will issue it for the 3rd time -- do you think that the hundreds of millions of dollars that obama has gotten in campaign contributions since 2008 corrupts the process ?????


and yes, I understand and I believe that the campaign largesse corrupts republican candidates.

Then why are you highlighting Obama's campaign and completely ignoring Republican ones? You admit that both sides, regardless of ideology or party, have corruption in some form or another. This is normal. There's no such thing as a "utopia" government because there's always going to be people who get corrupted by power. Why are you singling out the "liberal zombies" when even you point out the GOP does it too?
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:04 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.

Huffington Post, I choose YOU!


Infowars uses unsourced rhetoric! It's super effective!
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:05 pm

AuSable River wrote:since malovern is curled up in a fetal position and sucking his thumb under his computer.

I would like the zombies to answer this question --- (we have to go slow for your benefit)

trust me on this, some of you will understand where I am going but keep quiet for the slow liberals:

here is the question:


"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.


Because capitalism exists.


I'm sorry, not the answer you were looking for, right? Was it, "CUZ THEY BE LIBERULZ!"
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Postby Bozton » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:05 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Bozton wrote:How is an idiot screaming at people about big government and liberal zombies remind you of Pokemon? Just curious...


Bozton is right you know.

One features a creature in yellow who can only repeat the same thing over and over.

The other, of course, is an episode of Pokemon.

:palm: NOW I get it... Thanks.

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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:05 pm

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All I get is scotch eggs and a broken heart.
I don't have a broken heart, but I don't have scotch eggs either; which is fine because I never eat scotch eggs anyway. :o


Neither really, my mum brought some home from a community thingy. Damn leftists.
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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

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AuSable River wrote:

you didnt answer my question --- i will issue it for the 3rd time -- do you think that the hundreds of millions of dollars that obama has gotten in campaign contributions since 2008 corrupts the process ?????


and yes, I understand and I believe that the campaign largesse corrupts republican candidates.

Then why are you highlighting Obama's campaign and completely ignoring Republican ones? You admit that both sides, regardless of ideology or party, have corruption in some form or another. This is normal. There's no such thing as a "utopia" government because there's always going to be people who get corrupted by power. Why are you singling out the "liberal zombies" when even you point out the GOP does it too?



calm down dude, I have acknowledged a dozen times in no uncertain terms that ALL politicians are subject to corruption.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

AuSable River wrote:"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.


Because criminals tend to be very stupid, and these days few things are stupider than attempting a bank robbery.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

AuSable River wrote:calm down dude, I have acknowledged a dozen times in no uncertain terms that ALL politicians are subject to corruption.


As are all businessmen. Therefore, outlaw businesses.
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Postby AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
AuSable River wrote:since malovern is curled up in a fetal position and sucking his thumb under his computer.

I would like the zombies to answer this question --- (we have to go slow for your benefit)

trust me on this, some of you will understand where I am going but keep quiet for the slow liberals:

here is the question:


"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.


Because capitalism exists.


I'm sorry, not the answer you were looking for, right? Was it, "CUZ THEY BE LIBERULZ!"


as expected your wrong.

next liberal please answer.

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Postby Zionale » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

AuSable River wrote:since malovern is curled up in a fetal position and sucking his thumb under his computer.

I would like the zombies to answer this question --- (we have to go slow for your benefit)

trust me on this, some of you will understand where I am going but keep quiet for the slow liberals:

here is the question:


"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.


"BECAUSE I WAS YOUNG AND NEEDED THE MONEY!"

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm

AuSable River wrote:since malovern is curled up in a fetal position and sucking his thumb under his computer.

I would like the zombies to answer this question --- (we have to go slow for your benefit)

trust me on this, some of you will understand where I am going but keep quiet for the slow liberals:

here is the question:


"WHY DO CROOKS ROB BANKS?"

I will allow you a few minutes to answer --- and I am serious on this.

You... are a dumbass; you have yet to validate your own claims, yet you constantly chide us for 'not validating our claims' when 'malovern' has actually provided sources for his arguements. You are using typical right-wing tactics. Most of these people aren't even 'leftits' they're just smart.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:07 pm

AuSable River wrote:as expected your wrong.

next liberal please answer.


How? Capitalism allows for money. Communism does not require money. Capitalism thus allows money to be stolen, which allows crooks to steal them. Capitalism is responsible for bank robberies.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:07 pm

Bozton wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:This thread is increasingly reminding me of an episode of Pokemon.

How is an idiot screaming at people about big government and liberal zombies remind you of Pokemon? Just curious...


The benefits of libertarian society are about as believable as a society revolving around the capers of a random folks running around trying to catch magical animals?
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Postby Beiluxia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:08 pm

AuSable River wrote:
Beiluxia wrote:Then why are you highlighting Obama's campaign and completely ignoring Republican ones? You admit that both sides, regardless of ideology or party, have corruption in some form or another. This is normal. There's no such thing as a "utopia" government because there's always going to be people who get corrupted by power. Why are you singling out the "liberal zombies" when even you point out the GOP does it too?



calm down dude, I have acknowledged a dozen times in no uncertain terms that ALL politicians are subject to corruption.

I would like to point out that your thread title is "Govt is corrupt, so why do liberals want bigger govt !?!?" so don't play the innocent card. Or better yet, just don't play at all.
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