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Defwa
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Postby Defwa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:52 pm

Why is this happening! Its worse than I've seen in months.
Maybe those classroom nations are entering into some phase where they give extra credit for proposals?

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Repeal "Nuclear Arms Possession Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#10


Proposed by: Belacrod

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #10: Nuclear Arms Possession Act (Category: International Security; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This act, which was needed at its time of creation, is terribly outdated. If we are to preserve peace, we must disallow members to posess Nuclear Weapons, for these could easily result in the destruction of order and civility. In all, the potential cost that Nuclear Weapons could cause fa outweighs any benefits.

Approvals: 1 (Belacrod)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 67 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

And the obligatory self endorsed NAPA repeal. I think this is trying (poorly) to legislate in a repeal. I'm not sure what's happened since GAR#10 passed that made it outdated.

Looks like a couple of these culprits are due for expulsion any moment now.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:32 pm

Repeal "Nuclear Arms Possession Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.



Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#10

Proposed by: Belacrod


Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #10: Nuclear Arms Possession Act (Category: International Security; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This act, which was needed at its time of creation, is terribly outdated. If we are to preserve peace, we must disallow members to posess Nuclear Weapons, for these could easily result in the destruction of order and civility. In all, the potential cost that Nuclear Weapons could cause fa outweighs any benefits.

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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:00 am

Defwa wrote:Why is this happening! Its worse than I've seen in months.

There are generally more submissions when nothing's been at vote for a while. Same with delegate approvals.

Or it could just be me tempting fate by saying this thread was needless =P

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Defwa
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Postby Defwa » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:36 am

ENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: gosseland_1415974653
Clean world

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: Manufacturing


Proposed by: Gosseland

Description: solar energy should be used more. it price is so cheap now we can build super solar farms. for a clean new world. FOR THE GOOD OF ALL MAN KIND!

Approvals: 1 (The Real Fascist Austria)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 68 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour
Obligatory capitalized slogan. Haven't seen one of those in a bit. Do nothing one line bumper sticker blogposal

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_scientific_states_of_athean_1415975115
Internet

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Mild


Proposed by: The scientific states of Athean

Description: I do not have much to say other than we should recognize, in this day and age, that it is the right of any person to have access to the internet and that governments should not have authority to censor any part of the internet without the approval of the WA.

-Today, the internet is such a part of the world that many companies work mainly online, and some people can not do many things if internet access is restricted

-It is harder for totalitarian and oppressive governments to keep the people down if they can access the internet.

Approvals: 3 (The Forsworn Knights, The Real Fascist Austria, Imperial Eagle)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 66 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour
And oh look, the same thing but with more lines and no slogan.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:16 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: alubinia_1415990830
Repeal "Freedom to Read and Learn"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.
Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#234

Proposed by: Alubinia
Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #234: Freedom to Read and Learn (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Argument: Civil rights & Education are very important nowadays

Approvals: 1 (Nordenwald)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 67 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours

Might as well have used the argument "Butter and honey make English Muffins taste better" for all the relevance it has to the repeal.
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Postby Defwa » Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:23 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: alubinia_1415990830
Repeal "Freedom to Read and Learn"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.
Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#234

Proposed by: Alubinia
Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #234: Freedom to Read and Learn (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.
Argument: Civil rights & Education are very important nowadays

Approvals: 1 (Nordenwald)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 67 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours

Might as well have used the argument "Butter and honey make English Muffins taste better" for all the relevance it has to the repeal.

Think they may have submitted it earlier than they intended
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Postby Lower Columbia » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:44 pm

Repeal "Child Firearm Safety Act"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: GA#235 | Proposed by: The Forsworn Knights


Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #235: Child Firearm Safety Act (Category: Gun Control; Decision: Tighten) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: UNDERSTANDING: The purpose of this resolution.
RESPECTING: What the author was trying to achieve.
ARGUING: That childeren 13 or older who do not have mental health abnormalities may use pistol firearms with adult supervision in a proper installation.
STRIKING DOWN: This ban on all use of firearms by childeren.
DECLARING: That all buildings that sell or deal in the use of firearms must gain a permit along with all employees within the institution.
HEREBY REPEALS: GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 235

Legislating in a repeal, and that might be it, unless anyone can find any other illegalities.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:10 am

Lower Columbia wrote:
Repeal "Child Firearm Safety Act"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: GA#235 | Proposed by: The Forsworn Knights


Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #235: Child Firearm Safety Act (Category: Gun Control; Decision: Tighten) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: UNDERSTANDING: The purpose of this resolution.
RESPECTING: What the author was trying to achieve.
ARGUING: That childeren 13 or older who do not have mental health abnormalities may use pistol firearms with adult supervision in a proper installation.
STRIKING DOWN: This ban on all use of firearms by childeren.
DECLARING: That all buildings that sell or deal in the use of firearms must gain a permit along with all employees within the institution.
HEREBY REPEALS: GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 235

Legislating in a repeal, and that might be it, unless anyone can find any other illegalities.


What the author was trying to achieve.

The author wasn't trying to achieve anything. The World Assembly was, thus we have a first person point of view violation....
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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:23 am

Chester Pearson wrote:The author wasn't trying to achieve anything. The World Assembly was, thus we have a first person point of view violation....

Referring to the author of a resolution has never been illegal.
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Postby Louisistan » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:08 am

How exactly does a building acquire a permit? I mean it can't exactly walk into City Hall, right?
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Postby Old Hope » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:09 pm

Right to Work

A resolution to develop industry around the world.


Category: Advancement of Industry


Area of Effect: Labor Deregulation


Proposed by: David l l l l

Description: Understanding that forcing workers into unions is destructive to democracy and free trade,
Noting that Right to Work laws are beneficial for nation's economies and their citizens.
Explaining that this will improve industry profits, worker's ability to determine their future, and generally advance freedoms of member nation's citizens.
Clarifying that this law seeks not to harm labor or worker's unions, but instead to give workers much needed freedoms.
Hereby establishes that no worker, contractor, or any other person paid for service should be forced into a labor or worker's union.

Approvals: 6 (Sadko, Themightymanuel, Voracious Humanoids, Aurennian Aristocratic Empire, Little Tralfamadore, North Korea-chan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 9 hours

Meta-Gaming(expanding the authority of the WA to directly affect all persons paid for service),
Ideological ban,
and the World Assembly isn't mentioned once.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:17 pm

Old Hope wrote:Meta-Gaming(expanding the authority of the WA to directly affect all persons paid for service),
Ideological ban,
and the World Assembly isn't mentioned once.

It does say "member nations", so I think all three of your points are invalid. There may be other problems with this proposal, but none of those three seem to be among them.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:59 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Old Hope wrote:Meta-Gaming(expanding the authority of the WA to directly affect all persons paid for service),
Ideological ban,
and the World Assembly isn't mentioned once.

It does say "member nations", so I think all three of your points are invalid. There may be other problems with this proposal, but none of those three seem to be among them.


Overlaps GAR #302: duplicative of Clauses 2 & 3, possibly contradicts Clause 4; and if it matters, the sentence that starts "Noting that Right to Work laws..." is false :p
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:16 pm

Protect Environment

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.



Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: All Businesses

Proposed by: Zelcia Royaume


Description: Understanding that some nations put business before protection of the environment.

Therefore, putting in effect a protection act for the environment. And have nations put environment protection before the free market.

Nations must protect the environment if they want their country to prosper into the future

Doesn't really seem to do anything other than create vague bumpersticker slogans
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:30 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mericadom_1416129130

Amend the Living Wage Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Mericadom

Description: The current living wage act is simply too generous. In order to encourage free trade among its members, especially the smaller members with weaker economies, it is important that free trade be encouraged within borders. The proposal is simply too restrictive and actually comes to the point of decreasing the freedom of individuals to determine their own wages.

Justifications:
Nations have different numbers and situations for dependents, and thus separate welfare programs should deal with this issue. This should not be covered by minimum wage laws.

A standard working week should be made 40 hours instead of the stated 30, as this allows for the traditional weekend and aligns better with work shift cycles, making things more organized.

Independent contracting is a unique line of work that should never be touched by minimum wage laws, as independent contracting specifically allows lower-wage people to seek advancement opportunities, such as in professional wrestling and other areas. Forcing independent contractors to abide by minimum wage laws eliminates opportunity and further encroaches upon individual freedoms who specifically know and expect these wages.

Only on specific contracts that have within them specific weekly pay should we apply minimum wage laws.

AMENDMENTS
"DEFINES the Dependent Poverty Line as the Basic Poverty Line, substituting an average two-person dwelling for an average one-person dwelling, plus the cost of enough food and drink to keep a dependent healthy for a week, plus the pro-rata weekly cost of schooling for a dependent, less any additional income or benefits provided to all workers with dependents by the nation;" -- REMOVED

"CONSIDERS a person working on average 30 hours or more per week to be in full-time employment, counting paid holiday as time worked;" -- Modify to 40 hours

"REQUIRES that no person in full-time employment be paid the equivalent of a weekly net wage of less than 25% over the Basic Poverty Line;" -- Change to 10%

"REQUIRES further that no person in full-time employment be paid the equivalent of a weekly net wage of less than 25% over the Dependent Povery Line unless that person has no dependents and explicitly waives this right;" -- REMOVED

"CONSIDERS a person working on a contractual basis to be equivalent to a person in direct employment for the purposes of this resolution;" -- REMOVED

"DECLARES void any contract specifying a lesser wage or contractual remuneration than is specified above, requiring that either that contract is revised to conform with the above requirements or that national redundancy laws be invoked;" -- CHANGE "specifying a lesser wage" TO "specifying a lesser weekly wage."; REMOVE "or contractual remuneration than is specified above"

No amending existing legislation. It's that pesky rules thing again.
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Postby Defwa » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:42 am

Raiding

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: Automotive


Proposed by: Dub step nation

Description: I propose that raiding become a seperate category and an update goes out to count the regions raided

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours


AKA- I propose a change to gaming mechanics but don't really explain how.
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The Dark Star Republic
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:49 am

Yes, it's jolly silly to think the WA should be passing resolutions about raiding.

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Postby Defwa » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:55 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:Yes, it's jolly silly to think the WA should be passing resolutions about raiding.

It's literally a game mechanics proposal. Not any sort of policy on war. Doesn't create any apparatus to handle what they're requesting. Its literally asking for an update to the mechanics of the game to formally recognize an exploitation of game mechanics.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:03 am

Yes, it is, I agree.

...and? All I was saying was, it's silly to think the WA should be writing proposals about raiding. The only people who think that's a good idea are Dub step nation and [violet].
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Postby Eletya » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:11 pm

Defwa wrote:
Raiding

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: Automotive


Proposed by: Dub step nation

Description: I propose that raiding become a seperate category and an update goes out to count the regions raided

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours


AKA- I propose a change to gaming mechanics but don't really explain how.


How is that Environmental?

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:09 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_democratic_bronies_republic_1416273563

Anti-Corruption Act
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: The Democratic Bronies Republic

Description: Ban All Corrupt Nations From WA To Protect All Members of WA and New Nations.
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A nation is considered "Corrupt" if their economy is considered "imploded" and (not or) has civil rights banned, and is described as
"Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, despite the fact that it is difficult to make it through a day without breaking one of the country's many laws." Also, the nation would have to be seen as "controversial" by many.
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Corrupt nations should be outlawed by the WA, to protect other nations from going corrupt. We need to put an end to bad influences for newer nations.

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Postby Defwa » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:57 pm

And maybe ideological ban? Considering I think that, in technical terms, would make it impossible to be of certain ideologies.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:57 am

18 yes under no

A resolution to legalize or outlaw gambling.



Category: Gambling

Legalize/Outlaw: Outlaw

Proposed by: Gosseland


Description: Last week 5 kids we're saw gambling in a casino we have to stop kids under 18 from gambling. This new law can write kids under 18 are not allowed to gamble. Vote for this new law and let's turn slut kids in to miracles.

When did incoherent rambling become a basis for a proposal?
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Postby Louisistan » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:05 am

Grays Harbor wrote: When did incoherent rambling become a basis for a proposal?

Tue Nov 12 2002 ;)
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