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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat May 09, 2015 11:59 am

Kryozerkia wrote:Let's just assume that any RAT repeal that winds up here is likely going to be illegal at this point.

Challenge accepted.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat May 09, 2015 12:00 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: giqvista_1430994477

Funding of Arts Courses

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Artistic

Proposed by: Giqvista

Description: Recognising the importance of culture to nations,

Realising that the arts are often neglected by nations in favour of the economy and other administrative matters,

Apalled at the lack of culture of some nations,

Hoping to improve the global standard of cultural lifestyles and entertainment,

Hereby calls upon the World Assembly to:

1) Make it compulsory for at least 20% of all schools and universities in a nation to offer elective courses for the arts;

2) Defines such an elective course as a programme for the development of next-generation artists, musicians and writers;

3) Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:

I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers);
II) Are not under-funded (Less than 5% of the school budget).

Approvals: 14 (Miaore, The Norwegian Lands, Scioto Republic, Sylvuanir, Vancouvia, Vikinghastan, The League of Eastern Orthodox Knights, Snitchflame, The Golden Horse, Swellopolis, Occasolasia, The Dragon Reborns Followers, Ten Cities, Texas Bay)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 21 hours

Little late, but the underlined part is a House of Cards violation.
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Postby Alotopia » Sat May 09, 2015 12:22 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: giqvista_1430994477

Funding of Arts Courses

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Artistic

Proposed by: Giqvista

Description: Recognising the importance of culture to nations,

Realising that the arts are often neglected by nations in favour of the economy and other administrative matters,

Apalled at the lack of culture of some nations,

Hoping to improve the global standard of cultural lifestyles and entertainment,

Hereby calls upon the World Assembly to:

1) Make it compulsory for at least 20% of all schools and universities in a nation to offer elective courses for the arts;

2) Defines such an elective course as a programme for the development of next-generation artists, musicians and writers;

3) Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:

I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers);
II) Are not under-funded (Less than 5% of the school budget).

Approvals: 14 (Miaore, The Norwegian Lands, Scioto Republic, Sylvuanir, Vancouvia, Vikinghastan, The League of Eastern Orthodox Knights, Snitchflame, The Golden Horse, Swellopolis, Occasolasia, The Dragon Reborns Followers, Ten Cities, Texas Bay)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 21 hours

Little late, but the underlined part is a House of Cards violation.


How's that? it just says that the nation needs to follow the other laws as well... I don't know a resolution, that if repealed, would make this unworkable.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat May 09, 2015 12:25 pm

Alotopia wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: giqvista_1430994477

Funding of Arts Courses

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Artistic

Proposed by: Giqvista

Description: Recognising the importance of culture to nations,

Realising that the arts are often neglected by nations in favour of the economy and other administrative matters,

Apalled at the lack of culture of some nations,

Hoping to improve the global standard of cultural lifestyles and entertainment,

Hereby calls upon the World Assembly to:

1) Make it compulsory for at least 20% of all schools and universities in a nation to offer elective courses for the arts;

2) Defines such an elective course as a programme for the development of next-generation artists, musicians and writers;

3) Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:

I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers);
II) Are not under-funded (Less than 5% of the school budget).

Approvals: 14 (Miaore, The Norwegian Lands, Scioto Republic, Sylvuanir, Vancouvia, Vikinghastan, The League of Eastern Orthodox Knights, Snitchflame, The Golden Horse, Swellopolis, Occasolasia, The Dragon Reborns Followers, Ten Cities, Texas Bay)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 21 hours

Little late, but the underlined part is a House of Cards violation.


How's that? it just says that the nation needs to follow the other laws as well... I don't know a resolution, that if repealed, would make this unworkable.

A proposal must be able to stand alone even if all other resolutions are repealed. It cannot say "follow all other WA laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education" because if all of those resolutions were repealed, then this proposal wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 09, 2015 12:51 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Alotopia wrote:
How's that? it just says that the nation needs to follow the other laws as well... I don't know a resolution, that if repealed, would make this unworkable.

A proposal must be able to stand alone even if all other resolutions are repealed. It cannot say "follow all other WA laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education" because if all of those resolutions were repealed, then this proposal wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

"Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:
I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers)"

Other resolutions don't need to be in place for this resolution to work. If the other resolutions were repealed, then their arts programs simply wouldn't be violating any other resolutions. Not HoC.
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Postby Alotopia » Sat May 09, 2015 12:58 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:A proposal must be able to stand alone even if all other resolutions are repealed. It cannot say "follow all other WA laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education" because if all of those resolutions were repealed, then this proposal wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

"Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:
I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers)"

Other resolutions don't need to be in place for this resolution to work. If the other resolutions were repealed, then their arts programs simply wouldn't be violating any other resolutions. Not HoC.


Exactly.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Sat May 09, 2015 1:22 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:A proposal must be able to stand alone even if all other resolutions are repealed. It cannot say "follow all other WA laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education" because if all of those resolutions were repealed, then this proposal wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

"Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:
I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers)"

Other resolutions don't need to be in place for this resolution to work. If the other resolutions were repealed, then their arts programs simply wouldn't be violating any other resolutions. Not HoC.

Exactly. Vague references are just that. Vague references. :)
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat May 09, 2015 2:59 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:A proposal must be able to stand alone even if all other resolutions are repealed. It cannot say "follow all other WA laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education" because if all of those resolutions were repealed, then this proposal wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

"Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:
I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers)"

Other resolutions don't need to be in place for this resolution to work. If the other resolutions were repealed, then their arts programs simply wouldn't be violating any other resolutions. Not HoC.


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Postby Kryozerkia » Sat May 09, 2015 3:44 pm

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:"Assures nations and schools of the sole right to decide upon the curriculum of the programmes, as long as they:
I) Do not violate any resolutions or laws regarding human rights, social justice, and education (education in general and welfare of students and teachers)"

Other resolutions don't need to be in place for this resolution to work. If the other resolutions were repealed, then their arts programs simply wouldn't be violating any other resolutions. Not HoC.


You are arguing with a brick wall. Kaboom doesn't know the rules and likes to post here thinking he does.

Comments like this are what creates a hostile environment. Knock it off.
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Postby Defwa » Sun May 10, 2015 11:56 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: olstea_1431282878
Cleaner fuel

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: Olstea

Description: Research cleaner fuel which is cheaper than regular fossil fuel and much cleaner. The only waste from these fuel will be water vapour which is so much better than sulphur dioxide and carbon dioxide. The cleaner fuel will be cheaper than regular and can be used everywhere regular fuel be used.

Approvals: 2 (Texas Bay, The Blakeley Isles)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours


Possible category violation (automotive vs all business).
Blogposal.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun May 10, 2015 12:00 pm

Defwa wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: olstea_1431282878
Cleaner fuel

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: Olstea

Description: Research cleaner fuel which is cheaper than regular fossil fuel and much cleaner. The only waste from these fuel will be water vapour which is so much better than sulphur dioxide and carbon dioxide. The cleaner fuel will be cheaper than regular and can be used everywhere regular fuel be used.

Approvals: 2 (Texas Bay, The Blakeley Isles)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours


Possible category violation (automotive vs all business).
Blogposal.
Complete lack of understanding of how proposals, science, and fuel work. I think they're trying to say we should all use hydrogen fuel cells? But those can't be used in a gasoline engine as far as I know. Or maybe they're trying to say they want to create a fuel that matches those characteristics by saying "science dude, do this"


I think this might actually be something from Shark Tank.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun May 10, 2015 1:50 pm

Defwa wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: olstea_1431282878
Cleaner fuel

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: Olstea

Description: Research cleaner fuel which is cheaper than regular fossil fuel and much cleaner. The only waste from these fuel will be water vapour which is so much better than sulphur dioxide and carbon dioxide. The cleaner fuel will be cheaper than regular and can be used everywhere regular fuel be used.

Approvals: 2 (Texas Bay, The Blakeley Isles)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 9 hours


Possible category violation (automotive vs all business).
Blogposal.
Complete lack of understanding of how proposals, science, and fuel work. I think they're trying to say we should all use hydrogen fuel cells? But those can't be used in a gasoline engine as far as I know. Or maybe they're trying to say they want to create a fuel that matches those characteristics by saying "science dude, do this"

Don't forget a complete lack of understanding of economics. Saying "make it cheaper than fossil fuels" doesn't actually make it cheaper than fossil fuels.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 10, 2015 3:25 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: arioslavia_1431279711

Anti-extremist Act

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Arioslavia

Description: Seeing that religious extremism is a reason of multiple problems for modern world, such as terrorism, violation of human rights including freedom of religion and speech as well as discrimination justified by religion or religious extremism, we propose the nation members to act against these problems by accepting a resolution that allows all WA member governments to:

1. Dissolve and delegalize any religious organisation, cult or sect that claims its superiority over national government, usurpates government's right to rule, breakes state law transgressing the freedom of religion or finances illegal undertakings.

2. Arrest any individual performing agressive, hateful and discriminatory forms of proselytism, including calling to religiously-motivated violence against legal government, social, religious, ethnical and sexual minorities.

3. Arrest any individual suspected of preparing acts of religiously-motivated terrorism.

Approvals: 8 (Xogrite, Texas Bay, Imperial American State, The Blakeley Isles, Hvalfyurden, Vallita, Our Lord Lenny, Ten Cities)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 85 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

WA Counterterrorism Act.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 10, 2015 5:10 pm

It looks like RAT Attempt #19 has been taken down.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Sun May 10, 2015 5:15 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: arioslavia_1431279711

Anti-extremist Act

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Arioslavia

Description: Seeing that religious extremism is a reason of multiple problems for modern world, such as terrorism, violation of human rights including freedom of religion and speech as well as discrimination justified by religion or religious extremism, we propose the nation members to act against these problems by accepting a resolution that allows all WA member governments to:

1. Dissolve and delegalize any religious organisation, cult or sect that claims its superiority over national government, usurpates government's right to rule, breakes state law transgressing the freedom of religion or finances illegal undertakings.

2. Arrest any individual performing agressive, hateful and discriminatory forms of proselytism, including calling to religiously-motivated violence against legal government, social, religious, ethnical and sexual minorities.

3. Arrest any individual suspected of preparing acts of religiously-motivated terrorism.

Approvals: 8 (Xogrite, Texas Bay, Imperial American State, The Blakeley Isles, Hvalfyurden, Vallita, Our Lord Lenny, Ten Cities)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 85 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 5 hours

WA Counterterrorism Act.

Fundamentally, there is no difference between the two. Both have the same objective. The difference is not even skin deep as the proposal targets religious extremism whereas GAR#25 targets all terrorism motivation types, including religiously motivated.

Kaboomlandia wrote:It looks like RAT Attempt #19 has been taken down.

Yep. One-liner that had no operative clause. With a dash of NatSov for flavour.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 10, 2015 5:26 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:It looks like RAT Attempt #19 has been taken down.

Yep. One-liner that had no operative clause. With a dash of NatSov for flavour.

It's too bad Imperium's legal attempt has been somewhat overshadowed by it being the eighteenth and sole legal of nineteen attempts on the same resolution. In three days.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun May 10, 2015 5:47 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:
Yep. One-liner that had no operative clause. With a dash of NatSov for flavour.

It's too bad Imperium's legal attempt has been somewhat overshadowed by it being the eighteenth and sole legal of nineteen attempts on the same resolution. In three days.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 10, 2015 5:48 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:It's too bad Imperium's legal attempt has been somewhat overshadowed by it being the eighteenth and sole legal of nineteen attempts on the same resolution. In three days.

*jazz hands* Quorum! */jazz hands*

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon May 11, 2015 11:03 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: olstea_1431359973

Better the Environment

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Manufacturing

Proposed by: Olstea

Description: Make countries only use Eco-friendly power. By using using Eco-friendly power, there is no harmful waste given off like using fossil fuel. With a better environment all areas of the country will improve.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 93 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 21 hours

Complete and total lack of understanding of what this would actually mean. No operative clause, and maybe the wrong area of effect.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon May 11, 2015 1:06 pm

Category fail

Decriminalization of Drugs

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use

Decision: Outlaw

Proposed by: Abdolfist Reich

Description: Knowing that some populations are staunchly opposed to the manufacturing and use of drugs

Acknowledging that regardless of the above, human beings can make mistakes and become addicted to drugs

Declaring that drug addicts must be treated as sufferers of a disease and be rehabilitated, and not as criminals

Forbidding the death penalty for humans who use drugs out of addiction and desperation

Encouraging countries to be supportive of those who have fallen victim to the use of drugs

Recognizing that small drug dealers deserve punishment but are often desperate themselves, and so deserve the same rehabilitation as addicts

Forbidding the death penalty toward these small time drug dealers

Recognizing that drug kingpins are evil and manipulative

Recommending an international court be established to try these people

Declaring that any country who deliberately encourages drugs be transported into neighboring countries where they are illegal must stop immediately

Frowning upon wars on drugs

Promoting a safer, healthier, and more open world

Hereby passes 'Decriminalization of Drugs'
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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon May 11, 2015 5:31 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_burke_islands_1431376710

Outlaw Enchanced Interrogation

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: The Burke Islands

Description: REALIZING the need for interrogation in order to extract information from suspects of crime and terrorism and POWs.

ENCOURAGING interrogation in all police and military forces.

However DISGUSTED by the use of enchanced interrogation techniques and COMPARING them to torture.

EMPHASIZING that methods such as hooding and walling are violations of the interrogatee's human rights.

DEFINES enchanced interrogation as torture of suspected criminals, terrorists, etc.

CONCERNED that victims of enchanced interrogation may contract psychological disorders and may become depressed, angry, or scared of others and will have to undergoe rehabilitation in order to become productive members of society.

Also EMPHASIZING that victims may become insane and become murderers or commit suicide.

Hereby outlaws enchanced interrogation methods.

Approvals: 2 (Collatis, Terrocka)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Don't we already have Prevention of Torture?
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Flibbleites
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Postby Flibbleites » Mon May 11, 2015 7:24 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: the_burke_islands_1431376710

Outlaw Enchanced Interrogation

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: The Burke Islands

Description: REALIZING the need for interrogation in order to extract information from suspects of crime and terrorism and POWs.

ENCOURAGING interrogation in all police and military forces.

However DISGUSTED by the use of enchanced interrogation techniques and COMPARING them to torture.

EMPHASIZING that methods such as hooding and walling are violations of the interrogatee's human rights.

DEFINES enchanced interrogation as torture of suspected criminals, terrorists, etc.

CONCERNED that victims of enchanced interrogation may contract psychological disorders and may become depressed, angry, or scared of others and will have to undergoe rehabilitation in order to become productive members of society.

Also EMPHASIZING that victims may become insane and become murderers or commit suicide.

Hereby outlaws enchanced interrogation methods.

Approvals: 2 (Collatis, Terrocka)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 91 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Don't we already have Prevention of Torture?

Personally, I'm more curious as to what "enchanced" interrogation is? Is that where you use a random interrogation technique?

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon May 11, 2015 8:42 pm

Flibbleites wrote:Personally, I'm more curious as to what "enchanced" interrogation is? Is that where you use a random interrogation technique?

I'm guessing "bondage and discipline on girls with boob enhancements". I'm not going to post an image 'cause reasons.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed May 13, 2015 12:07 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: social_community_1431543937

Euthanize the Mentally Feeble

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Social Community

Description: Understanding that this is a very controversial and touchy subject I will explain my stand point.

What is meant by “Mentally Feeble” is someone who is mentally incapable of caring for themselves (feeding themselves, cleaning themselves, wiping their own behinds), a person who is 24 but has the mental capacity of a 2 year old and will never get better. These are people who will never be able to manage in society, physically or mentally.

What is not meant is those who have:
- Asperger Syndrome
- ADD
- ADHD
- OCD
- Minor Autism

These people merely need some help but can function in the world.
In the Supreme Court case of Carter v. Canada a precedent was set that allowed those with fatal illnesses to be able to decide to be euthanized by medical professionals instead of suffering the anguish of their affliction.

Is it then not kinder to remove these unfortunate souls instead of letting them live a life of underdeveloped. Some will argue that they are happy so what does it matter? But ignorance is bliss. It would be easier on families, instead of having to change their life to support someone who is nearly mentally dead anyway. It would be easier on national economies instead of having to spend millions of dollars a year on group homes and special educational programs out side of the normal class rooms.

It is not a pleasant thought but we must think of humanity going forward and these people will never reproduce or if they do the offspring will be no better off.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 93 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

RL violations, not from WA's perspective.
Possibly grossly offensive...
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed May 13, 2015 12:18 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: social_community_1431543937

Euthanize the Mentally Feeble

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Social Community

Description: Understanding that this is a very controversial and touchy subject I will explain my stand point.

What is meant by “Mentally Feeble” is someone who is mentally incapable of caring for themselves (feeding themselves, cleaning themselves, wiping their own behinds), a person who is 24 but has the mental capacity of a 2 year old and will never get better. These are people who will never be able to manage in society, physically or mentally.

What is not meant is those who have:
- Asperger Syndrome
- ADD
- ADHD
- OCD
- Minor Autism

These people merely need some help but can function in the world.
In the Supreme Court case of Carter v. Canada a precedent was set that allowed those with fatal illnesses to be able to decide to be euthanized by medical professionals instead of suffering the anguish of their affliction.

Is it then not kinder to remove these unfortunate souls instead of letting them live a life of underdeveloped. Some will argue that they are happy so what does it matter? But ignorance is bliss. It would be easier on families, instead of having to change their life to support someone who is nearly mentally dead anyway. It would be easier on national economies instead of having to spend millions of dollars a year on group homes and special educational programs out side of the normal class rooms.

It is not a pleasant thought but we must think of humanity going forward and these people will never reproduce or if they do the offspring will be no better off.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 93 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

RL violations, not from WA's perspective.
Possibly grossly offensive...

Yep, definitely contains an RL violation and isn't written from the perspective of the WA. Now, given GAR#285, can this be considered a consensual act? If so then we've got duplication. If this isn't considered consensual then it contradicts.
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