Silly and/or Illegal GA Proposals. zOMG!

[The Two Jerseys]

Birth Registration Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
 

Category:Human Rights
Strength:Significant
Proposed by: The Lanthanides


Description: The General Assembly,
BELIEVING that every person has the right to a nationality,
FURTHER believing that every child has the right to a name and a nationality from birth,
NOTING further that based on a study conducted by The Protectorate of The Lanthanides
, 41% of newborns are unregistered,
REALIZING that unregistered births potentially jeopardize basic human rights, by denying such newborns welfare and other governmental programs,
BELIEVING that granting "jus soli" citizenship would decrease the number of unregistered births,
UNDERSTANDING the true meaning of "jus soli"citizenship, which is that a person receives the nationality of the country he is born in,
WELCOMING the efforts of all WA nations toward giving all people a nationality,
1. ENCOURAGES all member nations to pass laws granting "jus soli" citizenship to all persons born within their borders,
2. EXPRESSES ITS HOPE that such laws will decrease the number of unregistered births by simplifying the registration process,
3. FURTHER requests that all member nations supplement this resolution with legislation establishing a system of birth registration,
4. AFFIRMS the efforts of all nations who work towards giving everyone a nationality, and
5. INVITES all nations to take part in this initiative to give all people a nationality and register all births.

Approvals: 1 (Hurdegaryp
)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 73 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 3 days 1 hour 

Illegal for branding.
(sorry for double post, but I wasn't sure if it'd be seen otherwise)

I don't think it actually does anything either.

[Araraukar]

I don't think it actually does anything either.

1. ENCOURAGES all member nations to pass laws granting "jus soli" citizenship to all persons born within their borders,

That counts as an active clause, but then it'd be strength failure. ENCOURAGES is fine for mild, but not significant.

[Ardchoille]

Not making a ruling, and not commenting on this particular proposal, but noting for reference: language alone doesn't necessarily govern strength. A proposal that very strongly affected a very small group or very minor area of policy, even if it mandated every clause, wouldn't automatically be Strong.

[Ardchoille]

SInce there's no drafting thread for it, I'll post here. The nation Vernima, author of now defunct proposal Oil Tanker Safety Standards, received this follow-up VoM from me today: (emphasis added):

Further to your proposal that was removed for the technical violation, branding: it was also illegal for the Just-a-Committee violation. Your proposal's active clauses all followed on from the clause instructing the committee to (do the following: compile, fund, support and work). The clauses at the end -- mandating, requiring -- were not active. Having a proposal that does no more than create a committee is illegal because it gives no direct instructions to member nations, only to the committee.

If you plan to resubmit it, you should consider removing the first line, where you reference the repealed proposal by name. It doesn't appear to be illegal under the House of Catds violation, because your proposal can't be dependent on a Resolution that doesn't exist. But it could have unfortunate effects: (a) it will make many voters believe that it is a House of Cards violation that the mods have missed, as usually only Repeals list Resolutions by name (b) the original's author may well feel it's an attempt to let gloating be enshrined in international law (c) there are less specific workarounds (d) why reference it at all? It adds nothing to your new law, and (e) making even a legal reference to previous legislation will encourage inxperienced players to commit actual HoC violations.

Posting a draft on the GA forum helps avoid unnecessary challenges. That's why mods strongly recommend onsite drafting.

Any cries for elucidation/brief comments on the second part, the curious case of the not-HoC reference?

[The Lanthanides]

Just an FYI on the Birth Registration Act: I removed the illegal branding (didn't know it was illegal at the time), reposted, and am waiting for endorsements.

[Elke and Elba]

Just an FYI on the Birth Registration Act: I removed the illegal branding (didn't know it was illegal at the time), reposted, and am waiting for endorsements.

Do not campaign your proposals in this thread.

That being said,

4. AFFIRMS the efforts of all nations who work towards giving everyone a nationality, and
5. INVITES all nations to take part in this initiative to give all people a nationality and register all births.

I'm iffy on number 5. If it refers to member states, it's illegal for optionality and contradiction.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

First off, if we're going to keep discussing specific points on one proposal, it should probably be split out to its own thread.

Second off, mild provisions in a Mild-strength proposal are not illegal.

[Ambibia]

Proposal ID: our_hell_1404969646

[Frisbeeteria]

Proposal ID: our_hell_1404969646

It's pointless to post Proposal IDs or even links, as illegal (and most silly) proposal are taken down quickly by the mods. That's why everyone posts the text of the proposal in this thread.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: our_hell_1404969646
Protection from Black Riders
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.
Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Our Hell

Description: Mandating that all nations in the WA raise taxes by 10% to boost each nations defense budget except the The Black Riders for protection against The Black Riders.

Approvals: 1 (Our Hell)

I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to identify the flaws.

[Bears Armed Mission]

Proposal ID: our_hell_1404969646

It's pointless to post Proposal IDs or even links, as illegal (and most silly) proposal are taken down quickly by the mods. That's why everyone posts the text of the proposal in this thread.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: our_hell_1404969646
Protection from Black Riders
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.
Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Our Hell

Description: Mandating that all nations in the WA raise taxes by 10% to boost each nations defense budget except the The Black Riders for protection against The Black Riders.

Approvals: 1 (Our Hell)

I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to identify the flaws.

In no particular order: selective application ("except the The Black Riders"), branding, contradiction of existing legislation (the tax rise), game mechanics (ditto), meta-gaming (treats GP 'invasions' as something that exist in the context of the GA)...

[Moronist Decisions]

Branding too!

[Bears Armed]

Branding too!

"Ahem!"

In no particular order: selective application ("except the The Black Riders"), branding, contradiction of existing legislation (the tax rise), game mechanics (ditto), meta-gaming (treats GP 'invasions' as something that exist in the context of the GA)...

[Wrapper]

Branding too!

"Ahem!"

In no particular order: selective application ("except the The Black Riders"), branding, contradiction of existing legislation (the tax rise), game mechanics (ditto), meta-gaming (treats GP 'invasions' as something that exist in the context of the GA)...

Yeah, and don't forget meta-gaming. Sorry couldn't resist.

•4 hours ago: Our Hell was ejected from the WA for rule violations.

Oops. Was wondering why it no longer approved of its own submission.

[Bears Armed Mission]

Welfare drug tests
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Requiemed

Description: Welfare recipients are in need for a wake up call, and drug testing them seems to be a good way of performing.

Men and women on the welfare list have been playing fast and loose with their money for far too long. In a recent study, welfare recipients have been using the money they acquire to purchase drugs and narcotics for their own personal and illegal use.

Requiemed believes that all citizens on a welfare list need a drug test before accepting any money. Those who have been tested positive for drugs will be denied their money, but will be offered immediate medical attention.

***Requiemed

We acknowledge that People on welfare might be afraid to come to the welfare centers in fear of drug testing.

We believe that this can shed light on the addicts, and help them see that they need help.

Approvals: 2 (Northern Socialist States, Christianx)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Bloggy, written as from a nation rather than the WA, branding, arguably either RL reference or Meta-gaming ("a recent study"), probably 'No operative clause' (although a case could arguably made for the "Those who have been tested..." sentence...), some people might claim 'Grossly Offensive'... Category arguably is correct, because of the emphasis being on "a wake up call" for welfare recipients rather than on actually suppressing the trade in illegal drugs for everybody.

[Moronist Decisions]

Repeal "Assisted Suicide Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#285


Proposed by: Crimea Republic

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #285: Assisted Suicide Act (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: [i] Recognizing that nations sometimes should end the life of a human that is in extreme pain and/or discomfort.
[i] Understanding that basic rights include the right to live and the right to die.
1. Governments should not end the life of a person that is not in extreme need.
2. People should not request to die unless it is absolutely crucial to end their suffering.
3. All people considering suicide should first talk to doctors, psychologists, etc. before asking for assisted suicide or euthanasia.

Possibly tries to legislate in a repeal, no operative clause for actually repealing its target.

[District XIV]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: blyskalia_1405193809

Ban on Predatory Loans
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Blyskalia

Description: Understanding
1)That citizens may use loans to assist in various purchases
2)That loans are, in no way, being commended in this resolution.
3)Citizens may go to "Loan Sharks" to grant loans for various reasons, such as:
a)Bad Credit
b)Illegal Reasons
c)No citizenship/missing official documentation

Appalled
1)"Loan Sharks" are operating with success and preying off of the poor.
2)"Loan Sharks" use methods of violence to get payment.
3)"Loan Sharks" often harass customers in addition to violence.

Observing
1)A lack of awareness to "Loan Sharks".
2)No resolutions have previously limited the activity of "Loan Sharks".
3)If these bans are imposed crime will most likely go down due to the lack of funding criminals will receive.

Recommends
1)The WA forms the World Assembly Loans Commission to help Citizens of Member Nations get loans by:
a)Reviewing the citizen.
b)Observing the citizen's financial records.
c)Requesting that the bank of the citizen's country loan the citizen money according to credit sore and financial records.
2)That non-citizens can take out loans but must remain in the country, unless the country that they go to will not be responsible for collecting the loan and returning the collected loan back to the country that the loan was borrowed in.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 71 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Committee only.

Well, sorta. It "recommends" the WA create a committee to do things. That's it.

[The Two Jerseys]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: blyskalia_1405193809

Ban on Predatory Loans
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Blyskalia

Description: Understanding
1)That citizens may use loans to assist in various purchases
2)That loans are, in no way, being commended in this resolution.
3)Citizens may go to "Loan Sharks" to grant loans for various reasons, such as:
a)Bad Credit
b)Illegal Reasons
c)No citizenship/missing official documentation

Appalled
1)"Loan Sharks" are operating with success and preying off of the poor.
2)"Loan Sharks" use methods of violence to get payment.
3)"Loan Sharks" often harass customers in addition to violence.

Observing
1)A lack of awareness to "Loan Sharks".
2)No resolutions have previously limited the activity of "Loan Sharks".
3)If these bans are imposed crime will most likely go down due to the lack of funding criminals will receive.

Recommends
1)The WA forms the World Assembly Loans Commission to help Citizens of Member Nations get loans by:
a)Reviewing the citizen.
b)Observing the citizen's financial records.
c)Requesting that the bank of the citizen's country loan the citizen money according to credit sore and financial records.
2)That non-citizens can take out loans but must remain in the country, unless the country that they go to will not be responsible for collecting the loan and returning the collected loan back to the country that the loan was borrowed in.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 71 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Committee only.

Well, sorta. It "recommends" the WA create a committee to do things. That's it.

I don't think that they understand how banking works...

[Defwa]

Agricultural Security Act

A resolution to develop industry around the world.


Category: Advancement of Industry


Area of Effect: Protective Tariffs


Proposed by: Ambibia

Description: RECOGNIZING that agriculture plays a crucial role in addressing the needs of a global population, especially in developing countries, and stressing that sustainable agricultural development approaches are essential to achieving enhanced food security in an environmentally sustainable way,

RECOGNIZING FURTHER the important role of agriculture in developing countries, and their knowledge and practices in the preservation/conservation and sustainable use of new and traditional crops for biodiversity of future generations as a contribution to the goal of international food security, as well as in the implementation of goals in fields such as employment, social integration, regional/rural development, and environmental protection,

ACKNOWLEDGING the role of small and large sector agriculture to help member nations in promoting the use of sustainable agricultural technology and the production of foods and crops,

UNDERLINING the importance of the preservation of the global agriculture industry as well as a natural resource base for food security,

STRESSING the importance of advancing researching and diversifying crops and seed systems as well as supporting the establishment of sustainable agricultural systems and practices, such as conservation agriculture and pest management to make agriculture more resilient and to make crops and farm animals more tolerant in a manner consistent with national regulations and past
international agreements, hereby,

• STATES that member nations have may develop farmland according to their socio-economic needs, in keeping with past sustainable development policies; and that specific financial resources should be provided to develop programs that encourage economic and social substitution policies for agricultural needs,

• ENCOURAGES international/national efforts to strengthen agricultural capacity, especially their smallholder farmers, in order to enhance the productivity and nutritional quality of foods to promote sustainable practices in pre and post-harvest activities, and to enhance food security and nutrition-related policies,

• FURTHER ENCOURAGES member nations to develop partnerships to support services for the agricultural industry, including the training of new farmers, infrastructure and extension services, and calls for efforts by all stakeholders to include smallholder farmers in decisions about making appropriate sustainable agricultural technologies and practices available and affordable to them,

• LIMITS the uncontrolled imports of industrial monoculture agriculture products to all member nations,

• ENCOURAGES the use of non-toxic pesticides in order to protect food security while at the same time minimizing harmful affects to both local and worldwide environments,

HEREBY CREATES the World Assembly Agricultural Research Fund (WAARF) to direct international efforts to advance agriculture, combat world hunger, research new ways in which to successfully farm through technology such as helping to train new farmers, micro-invest to enable start-up agriculture operations for lesser-income individuals, and act as a neutral forum where all nations meet to negotiate agreements and contract agricultural policy.

WELCOMES the further advancement and development on the global agricultural industry.

Approvals: 78 (United Alab Emirates, The Imperium Collectives, Salikawood, NeuPolska, Imperium Romanum I, The Eastern Antarctic State, The United Assassin Emirates, Neo Industrium, Organized States, Jydara, Valorono, Johto and Kanto, Natornic Cultures, Republic of South Carolina, Orctova, North Campbell Nation, Alossa, Carthagistan, The Water Supply, The Greater States of Racoonia, Eastern Arcturus, Nawira, Robert Hawkins, Harkback Union, Amerion, Saratoga States, Kavin Pi, The United England, Northern Socialist States, Socathei, Pacifist Island, Etoile Arcture, Ryrgistan, Malizien, Rzeczpospolita Krakowska, Liberidad, Eura, Galadhion, DEC-LAND, Kipling, Paledonn, Communist Victoria, Nova Doria, Gatholim, Ajerrin, BearNation, Sklavinia, Rustus, Crisisies, Astraesel, Russian Fedration, Eastern Equestria, Isolaria, Bushterria, VinVachia, Cosmic Explosion, Watertopia, Holy Trek, Estinia, The Democratic Nation of Unovia, Kingdom of Derita, Maoist People, Amiria, Manchovia, Yaluria, Yolo Swag 420 Blazn, Theoniatium, The United Federation of Galaxies, Verbano, Imperial Liberation Force, Ainocra, Illusionist, Northern Thermonia, The Gildan Republic, Renatum, Palafox, Father motherland, Timmy City)

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!

What is this?
Where did it come from?
How is it already in queue?
How is this a protective tariff?
What exactly does this even do!?

[Wrapper]

Also, a couple of grammatical errors, and exactly what is a non-toxic pesticide? Pesticides by their very nature are toxic substances, or else they would be pretty crappy pesticides.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Agricultural Security Act

This isn't a very good submission for this thread. In fact, this is the kind of submission that again illustrates the sheer pointlessness of this thread: you haven't given any explanation of any legal problems for the mods to follow up on, and have instead simply assailed it with vague questions to take advantage of the fact the author isn't present on the forum.*

What is this?
Where did it come from?
How is it already in queue?

Telegram campaigns are not illegal.

How is this a protective tariff?

Tariffs and other protectionist mechanisms** are a common means of supporting agricultural development, and the most obvious source of the funding required in several clauses. Not to mention the one explicitly mandating protectionism:

LIMITS the uncontrolled imports of industrial monoculture agriculture products to all member nations,

What exactly does this even do!?

It has two mandatory clauses, several optional clauses, creates a committee, and doesn't provide any assistance for those unable to read proposals.

Oh...maybe that's its failing?

* Strangely, they did bump their thread on this just prior to submission - but now I can't find the thread, which suggests it's been deleted. But I can't find any reason for that, anywhere. Odd!
** I can remember old rulings that the Tariffs category was to be interpreted as broadly applying to any protectionist mechanisms, but I don't know whether these rulings are still active.

Incidentally:

It's basically a proposal on advancement and basics on the agricultural industry. The WA doesn't really have anything stressing this yet, the only thing they have is a single resolution on Genetically Modified Foods but this only scrapes the surface. I have a good raft but it could use some outsider help. I would go to the GA forum but those guys never seem to help much anyway so i'm doing this one solo.

Before we start doling out too much blame on the author...

[Frisbeeteria]

Strangely, they did bump their thread on this just prior to submission - but now I can't find the thread, which suggests it's been deleted.

I didn't read the whole thing, but this starts out the same.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Strangely, they did bump their thread on this just prior to submission - but now I can't find the thread, which suggests it's been deleted.

I didn't read the whole thing, but this starts out the same.

Weird. It's definitely them - but I saw a different thread. It's the one I linked. They posted saying they had moved it to "Protective Tariffs" because that was a better area of effect than "Environmental Deregulation", and that they were planning to submit soon. And yet when I go to that link now, it says "no thread exists". But I remember seeing it!

This is the lamest horror movie set-up ever...

[Normlpeople]

*snip*

I don't think its silly, but I question the category. Tariffs are usually punitive barriers designed to discourage importation, this bill seems to (if I read it right through some serious typos) focus more on development of the industry, as well as reaching slightly into the environmental area. Yes, it does include "limiting imports", but that is hardly the focus of the legislation. This has potential, but could have benefited from drafting here in the forums.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Repeal "Child Welfare in Adoption"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: GA#297 | Proposed by: Kerknia

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #297: Child Welfare in Adoption (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This bill goes against certain laws implemented in Kerknia, as well as many others. In Kerknia, homosexuality is punished with execution. There is no way that those put to death can adopt a child. There are also security issues involved. If a child from a raider nation is allowed in, they may eventually instigate revolution, or worse, help their raider brethren. These issues are why I propose the repeal of GA Resolution #297. There is no doubt that the common good would be improved if the bill was overturned.

Branding, Honest Mistake, Grossly Offensive?, Format - this is an extremely ill eagle.

[Normlpeople]

Repeal "Child Welfare in Adoption"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal | Resolution: GA#297 | Proposed by: Kerknia

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #297: Child Welfare in Adoption (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This bill goes against certain laws implemented in Kerknia, as well as many others. In Kerknia, homosexuality is punished with execution. There is no way that those put to death can adopt a child. There are also security issues involved. If a child from a raider nation is allowed in, they may eventually instigate revolution, or worse, help their raider brethren. These issues are why I propose the repeal of GA Resolution #297. There is no doubt that the common good would be improved if the bill was overturned.

Branding, Honest Mistake, Grossly Offensive?, Format - this is an extremely ill eagle.

It would seem Kerknia is in violation of several WA resolutions already, they may as well ignore this one too