General Assembly Q&A

[The Silver Sentinel]

If another thread were made and stickied for the express purpose, that would be much better at both (1) increasing the exposure of the Assembly and (2) injecting the WA into people's RP, which would (3) make the Assembly mean more. Helps put life into it.

1. No it wouldn't. How much more exposure does the WA actually need? It is literally the core component of the game.
2. Oh wait, you're serious? (Most) people who RP could give two shits about WA law. All it does is get in the way of their RP.
3. Once again . It is literally the core component of the fucking game. How much more does it need to mean?

You seriously need to stop okay? You are not and never are going to be the king of the WA. Just because you have passed a few resolutions, and Kenny gave up ownership of a sticked thread to you, doesn't mean you all of a sudden get to dictate how things are going to to run. We have been doing it quite efficiently for the last 10 or so years this way, and it works fine the way it is. We are not lawyers, and this is a game (an exaggerated one at that). It is meant to be fun. Quit unfunning the game.

[Separatist Peoples]

And one of the major reasons why we have so many bad WA posts is because of the word 'description', which people actual take literally.

Got a source for that?

If another thread were made and stickied for the express purpose, that would be much better at both (1) increasing the exposure of the Assembly and (2) injecting the WA into people's RP, which would (3) make the Assembly mean more. Helps put life into it.

Another thread to ask questions about the WA in? So we'd have two threads whos only difference is that one is about future resolutions and one is about past resolutions? You'd be adding another layer of complexity on top, so newbies would get yelled at to take it to the other thread when they misunderstand. We have a list of passed resolutions and an open Q&A thread. People have already asked about existing resolutions in this thread and we've answered them with no issues.

Adding a new thread would be confusing, add extra work for the mods, and serve no greater utility than a single thread would. If people care about the WA, they wouldn't need us to inject the WA into roleplay, and the GA is entirely meaningless with or without such a thread, to those who don't care. That is the result of No Forced Roleplay, and for better or worse, its really not ever going to change.

[Araraukar]

And one of the major reasons why we have so many bad WA posts is because of the word 'description', which people actual take literally. I still believe it should be changed to 'Proposal Text' or something like that.

Agreed, and this stumbling block has been pointed out in Silly/Illegal enough times by now that mods must be aware of it. Maybe they'll manage to bug an admin for long enough to change it.

and (2) injecting the WA into people's RP

Unlikely to happen, like, ever. WA resolutions get way too much in the way of, say, war RP. There's a reason I don't really RP much/at all outside of the GA forum; I rather like the convoluted mess that is WA, but most peeps ignore it existing outside of GA forum.

Helps put life into it.

I can't help but feel that we've had this discussion before... though I do admit that there's quite a lot of various lifeforms in shit. Too bad many of them are pathogens.

1. No it wouldn't. How much more exposure does the WA actually need? It is literally the core component of the game.
2. Oh wait, you're serious? (Most) people who RP could give two shits about WA law. All it does is get in the way of their RP.
3. Once again . It is literally the core component of the fucking game. How much more does it need to mean?

You seriously need to stop okay? You are not and never are going to be the king of the WA.

Neither are you, nor are you a mod, and yet you go around threads giving advice rudely, as though you owned this place. IA is almost as bad as you (and I've TGed you both in the past enough times that you two know exactly what I think of posturing and strutting here), but at least most of the time he dresses up his advice into a more polite form. Seriously, UFoC/Chester/whatever you like to be called now, I've grown tired trying to explain your rudeness.

Quit unfunning the game.

Right back at ya, and also I'm totally going to quote you on that.

threads whos only difference is that one is about future resolutions and one is about past resolutions? You'd be adding another layer of complexity on top, so newbies would get yelled at to take it to the other thread when they misunderstand. We have a list of passed resolutions and an open Q&A thread. People have already asked about existing resolutions in this thread and we've answered them with no issues.

Perhaps thread title should be changed to "General Assembly Q & A", to be closer to the truth.

[Emprie]

I have a rewrite of an existing resolution that will do more than the existing resolution that it replaces, and I want to submit it for vote. However I want the WA to know of the resolution that I have in place of that said resolution, but at the same time, I do not know if I can advertise the resolution as a replacement for the current one upon the old one being voted out. Am I allowed to do one of the following, or must I do something else?

A) Write the new legislation in the argument for repealing the old one
B) Write the new legislation to have a clause that eliminates the existing resolution that it is replacing as part of the law itself.
C) Write the repeal and link on the forums the new legislation that it will be replaced with.

[Wallenburg]

I have a rewrite of an existing resolution that will do more than the existing resolution that it replaces, and I want to submit it for vote. However I want the WA to know of the resolution that I have in place of that said resolution, but at the same time, I do not know if I can advertise the resolution as a replacement for the current one upon the old one being voted out. Am I allowed to do one of the following, or must I do something else?

A) Write the new legislation in the argument for repealing the old one
B) Write the new legislation to have a clause that eliminates the existing resolution that it is replacing as part of the law itself.
C) Write the repeal and link on the forums the new legislation that it will be replaced with.

No, no, and no. If you want to replace a resolution, you must first get the General Assembly to pass a repeal of it. You cannot repeal except in repeal resolutions, you cannot legislate within repeals, and you cannot put forum links in your resolutions. I suggest that you read the rules and passed resolutions.

Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.

[Tinfect]

I have a rewrite of an existing resolution that will do more than the existing resolution that it replaces, and I want to submit it for vote. However I want the WA to know of the resolution that I have in place of that said resolution, but at the same time, I do not know if I can advertise the resolution as a replacement for the current one upon the old one being voted out. Am I allowed to do one of the following, or must I do something else?

A) Write the new legislation in the argument for repealing the old one
B) Write the new legislation to have a clause that eliminates the existing resolution that it is replacing as part of the law itself.
C) Write the repeal and link on the forums the new legislation that it will be replaced with.

No, no, and no. If you want to replace a resolution, you must first get the General Assembly to pass a repeal of it. You cannot repeal except in repeal resolutions, you cannot legislate within repeals, and you cannot put forum links in your resolutions. I suggest that you read the rules and passed resolutions.

Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.

Also, if it is a re-write of existing legislation, it's probably plagiarism.

[Emprie]

No, no, and no. If you want to replace a resolution, you must first get the General Assembly to pass a repeal of it. You cannot repeal except in repeal resolutions, you cannot legislate within repeals, and you cannot put forum links in your resolutions. I suggest that you read the rules and passed resolutions.

Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.

Also, if it is a re-write of existing legislation, it's probably plagiarism.

To Wallenberg: I need you to clarify your help
To Tintfect: It is rewritten enough to be more descriptive and covers more of the topic and adds new assets to the legislation, thus it is not plagiarism.

[Tinfect]

To Tintfect: It is rewritten enough to be more descriptive and covers more of the topic and adds new assets to the legislation, thus it is not plagiarism.

Does it use any amount of the original text without permission from the Author?
If yes, it is plagiarism.

[Emprie]

To Tintfect: It is rewritten enough to be more descriptive and covers more of the topic and adds new assets to the legislation, thus it is not plagiarism.

Does it use any amount of the original text without permission from the Author?
If yes, it is plagiarism.

No, but it uses the same letters of the alphabet.

[Wallenburg]

Does it use any amount of the original text without permission from the Author?
If yes, it is plagiarism.

No, but it uses the same letters of the alphabet.

Unacceptable.

...

[Wrapper]

Does it use any amount of the original text without permission from the Author?
If yes, it is plagiarism.

No, but it uses the same letters of the alphabet.

You still need to have the original resolution repealed first.

[Emprie]

No, but it uses the same letters of the alphabet.

You still need to have the original resolution repealed first.

If I start the repeal, and then on the forums list a replacement legislation without any cross promotion, would that also be acceptable?

[Wrapper]

You still need to have the original resolution repealed first.

If I start the repeal, and then on the forums list a replacement legislation without any cross promotion, would that also be acceptable?

For a repeal/replace, you can post a forum link to a replacement draft in the first post of the drafting thread for your repeal. What you can't do is post a forum link to a replacement in the text of the repeal resolution itself. Is that clear?

[The Order of the Eclipse]

If I start the repeal, and then on the forums list a replacement legislation without any cross promotion, would that also be acceptable?

For a repeal/replace, you can post a forum link to a replacement draft in the first post of the drafting thread for your repeal. What you can't do is post a forum link to a replacement in the text of the repeal resolution itself. Is that clear?

On that note, if that's what you plan to do, go right on ahead, I'd quite like to see it.
Tinfect Puppet, as I am too lazy to switch over.

[Emprie]

If I start the repeal, and then on the forums list a replacement legislation without any cross promotion, would that also be acceptable?

For a repeal/replace, you can post a forum link to a replacement draft in the first post of the drafting thread for your repeal. What you can't do is post a forum link to a replacement in the text of the repeal resolution itself. Is that clear?

thank you for the clarification, that does help and i will do so as soon as i finish the final touches on the replacement.

[Separatist Peoples]

For a repeal/replace, you can post a forum link to a replacement draft in the first post of the drafting thread for your repeal. What you can't do is post a forum link to a replacement in the text of the repeal resolution itself. Is that clear?

thank you for the clarification, that does help and i will do so as soon as i finish the final touches on the replacement.

You're welcome to post the unfinished draft on here. We work with basically whatever you give us. This is as close to recreation as some of us get outside of decent fishing weather.

[Triatia]

Asking for your opinions on the Tobacco Restriction proposal submitted by Cavarria.

IDK about it, but what do you guys think?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Asking for your opinions on the Tobacco Restriction proposal submitted by Cavarria.

IDK about it, but what do you guys think?

This?

Although smoking, chewing, and eating tobacco are all common stress relievers, they still have a large toll on your health.

Also acknowledging that tobacco users become irritable when deprived, which leads to more simple crime(robberies, illegal drugs, etc.)

From now on deeming it Illegal to:

1. Have possession of any kind of tobacco or nicotine(including vapor).

2. Possession of Paraphernalia(tools for DRUG consumption).

3. Possession of Marijuana without prescription.

4. Production of illegal drugs.

5. Illegal Distribution.

This affects all citizens.

Hope full that this resolution will be passed for the well-being of our citizens.

[Tinfect]

Asking for your opinions on the Tobacco Restriction proposal submitted by Cavarria.

IDK about it, but what do you guys think?

This?

Although smoking, chewing, and eating tobacco are all common stress relievers, they still have a large toll on your health.

Also acknowledging that tobacco users become irritable when deprived, which leads to more simple crime(robberies, illegal drugs, etc.)

From now on deeming it Illegal to:

1. Have possession of any kind of tobacco or nicotine(including vapor).

2. Possession of Paraphernalia(tools for DRUG consumption).

3. Possession of Marijuana without prescription.

4. Production of illegal drugs.

5. Illegal Distribution.

This affects all citizens.

Hope full that this resolution will be passed for the well-being of our citizens.

Well, It's a nearly incomprehensible, micromanaging mess, at a glance.

[Emprie]

This?

Although smoking, chewing, and eating tobacco are all common stress relievers, they still have a large toll on your health.

Also acknowledging that tobacco users become irritable when deprived, which leads to more simple crime(robberies, illegal drugs, etc.)

From now on deeming it Illegal to:

1. Have possession of any kind of tobacco or nicotine(including vapor).

2. Possession of Paraphernalia(tools for DRUG consumption).

3. Possession of Marijuana without prescription.

4. Production of illegal drugs.

5. Illegal Distribution.

This affects all citizens.

Hope full that this resolution will be passed for the well-being of our citizens.

Well, It's a nearly incomprehensible, micromanaging mess, at a glance.

It is not specific enough and is way to broad in some areas, which surprises me for a resolution comprised of a bunch of one-liner regulations. I would like to see something more comprehensive and better written. If it were to regulate the more dangerous drugs that can kill you, such as Krockdile (that drug has nasty affects), among other drugs that can kill you and mess you up for life. He should target those drugs instead of a blanket ban on everything but medical grade Cannabis.

[Araraukar]

If it were to regulate the more dangerous drugs that can kill you, such as Krockdile (that drug has nasty affects), among other drugs that can kill you and mess you up for life. He should target those drugs instead of a blanket ban on everything but medical grade Cannabis.

And you need to realize that not nearly every nation is based on real life. And yes, I mean even the ones populated by humans living on a planet called Earth. Just because some drain cleaner marketed as drug exists on RL Earth, doesn't mean it exists in most or even any of the nations around here.

In addition to that, naming specific "tradenames" of drugs may count as RL violations.

Most nations around here feel that drug control, like gun control, should be left to the nations to decide for themselves. And I don't mean the gameside issue choices, but WA resolutions.

[Mikalea]

Why was the end slavery resolution repealed?

[Wallenburg]

Why was the end slavery resolution repealed?

It looks like it was repealed to make a better one.

[Trump Korea]

Recently I made a proposal that was removed from the floor for meta-gaming > Forcing WA legislation on non-member nation. Would it be possible to reword a proposal to get around that violation and remain in the WA.

[Kryozerkia]

Recently I made a proposal that was removed from the floor for meta-gaming > Forcing WA legislation on non-member nation. Would it be possible to reword a proposal to get around that violation and remain in the WA.

Rewording is how you do it, however, I very strongly suggest that you refrain from resubmitting your proposal until you've shared your draft on the forum, and wait to receive feedback to tweak your proposal. Many new authors make the error of submitting without coming here to get help first. Some also think that simply posting a copy here is enough. The best way to take advantage of the valuable feedback is to not submit your proposal right away but to wait and work on it over a period of time.