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Gruenberg
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Postby Gruenberg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:49 am

Whenever you feel you're reasonably confident it's not illegal*, and otherwise have reached a point where you don't think any further comments will lead you to making any changes. There are no hard rules here: some proposals are drafted for days, some for months.

* It is a 100% certainty there will be an attempt to rules lawyer it into being deleted if you do actually submit it, so it's worth thinking carefully about this.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:58 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You would do well to wait more than 20 minutes for someone to respond to your draft.

Ok, but when should I submit it?

Never, it's illegal.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:12 am

Wallenburg wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ok, but when should I submit it?

Never, it's illegal.


Not that one, the other one.

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Never, it's illegal.


Not that one, the other one.


Submit it when it's done, and the only objections to it are the ones that reject the core-concept.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:14 pm

Tinfect wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Not that one, the other one.


Submit it when it's done, and the only objections to it are the ones that reject the core-concept.


How do I know "when it's done"?

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:20 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Tinfect wrote:
Submit it when it's done, and the only objections to it are the ones that reject the core-concept.


How do I know "when it's done"?


Tinfect wrote:[When] the only objections to it are the ones that reject the core-concept.
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Postby Northern Greengot » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:39 pm

How do you vote on issues in the General Assembly?

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Postby Tinfect » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:42 pm

Northern Greengot wrote:How do you vote on issues in the General Assembly?


Hit the giant World Assembly button on the sidebar, it will take you to a page with the Security Council and General Assembly Resolutions. The one on the left is the GA resolution.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:46 pm

I'm writing a proposal to ban attacks on ejecting parachutists, lifeboats, etc. (which currently appears to be an uncovered topic and is a real thing in the Geneva Convention for the parachutists part).

My working title is "Protecting Distressed Combatants", which is two characters too long. Any suggestions for paring it down to the limit?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:08 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:I'm writing a proposal to ban attacks on ejecting parachutists, lifeboats, etc. (which currently appears to be an uncovered topic and is a real thing in the Geneva Convention for the parachutists part).

My working title is "Protecting Distressed Combatants", which is two characters too long. Any suggestions for paring it down to the limit?

I believed I considered something like this. Separatist Peoples informed me that there's a portion of his resolution on Rules of Surrender (if I recall correctly) which already covers this topic.

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Gruenberg
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Postby Gruenberg » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:22 am

So, the max* proposal title length seems to have changed. Used to be 30, now 52 characters. I wonder what prompted that change - thinking about it, nations can have 40 characters in their name, so Security Council resolutions would have already had to accommodate longer titles in case of "Commend 40 Character Nation Title".

I'm aware it was already possible to evade this using a simple bit of code, but that's not the point.
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Postby WA Kitty Kops » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:28 am

Gruenberg wrote:So, the max* proposal title length seems to have changed. Used to be 30, now 52 characters. I wonder what prompted that change - thinking about it, nations can have 40 characters in their name, so Security Council resolutions would have already had to accommodate longer titles in case of "Commend 40 Character Nation Title".

Does it work for GA proposals too or just SC ones? I mean, the repeals have already had the added "Repeal" tagged to the name by the system, haven't they? Otherwise you couldn't repeal resolutions by name if the name was 30 marks long.

EDIT: Bah at kitten nation being the active one. Imagine the flag being red-and-yellow striped. :P
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Gruenberg
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Postby Gruenberg » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:09 am

WA Kitty Kops wrote:Does it work for GA proposals too

Yes. I was wondering why so many long titled proposals were turning up as most of them seemed to be from nations I doubt would know of the Js workaround for title length. I'm pretty sure it's 52 now - which, given the max length of an SC proposal would be about 50, makes sense.
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Tinfect
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:49 am

WA Kitty Kops wrote:
Gruenberg wrote:So, the max* proposal title length seems to have changed. Used to be 30, now 52 characters. I wonder what prompted that change - thinking about it, nations can have 40 characters in their name, so Security Council resolutions would have already had to accommodate longer titles in case of "Commend 40 Character Nation Title".

Does it work for GA proposals too or just SC ones? I mean, the repeals have already had the added "Repeal" tagged to the name by the system, haven't they? Otherwise you couldn't repeal resolutions by name if the name was 30 marks long.

EDIT: Bah at kitten nation being the active one. Imagine the flag being red-and-yellow striped. :P


I'm not sure that helped.
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Postby WA Kitty Kops » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:00 pm


Oh I love that! Can I have that? :lol2:

Totally need to use that in a siggy link or something (I'll save it in my Photobucket first)...
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:16 pm

WA Kitty Kops wrote:

Oh I love that! Can I have that? :lol2:

Totally need to use that in a siggy link or something (I'll save it in my Photobucket first)...


You can use it for whatever you like, it was yours in the first place.
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Postby Phrenics » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:40 am

Presuming from passed resolutions, "Nazism" isn't a real life reference? Although Nazism is a specific ideology, I argue that it's spontaneous, as the term starts with a capital letter. Even if it's taken as "National Socialism", I am not sure that such an ideology existed before the German Nazi. Sorry if I was wrong...

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Postby Araraukar » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:50 am

Phrenics wrote:Presuming from passed resolutions, "Nazism" isn't a real life reference? Although Nazism is a specific ideology, I argue that it's spontaneous, as the term starts with a capital letter. Even if it's taken as "National Socialism", I am not sure that such an ideology existed before the German Nazi. Sorry if I was wrong...

I myself would count Nazism 1) too flammable to put into a proposal and 2) a RL reference. I mean, we don't call Socialism "Zism". I'd go for NatSoc, if you need a shorthand for some reason.
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Postby Phrenics » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:57 am

Thank you. But I guess it's not illegal, for SC#199 uses the term "Nazi". I may have posted this on the wrong forum, but the classification of RL references are the not different between the two councils, so take this as a general question on the World Assembly.

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Postby Aclion » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:08 am

Phrenics wrote:Thank you. But I guess it's not illegal, for SC#199 uses the term "Nazi". I may have posted this on the wrong forum, but the classification of RL references are the not different between the two councils, so take this as a general question on the World Assembly.

I wouldn't use security console resolutions as a precedent. The security counsel can reference game-play(it being what they're for) so they have some leniency regarding real-world references that we do not. SCR#199 for example only references Nazis as part of the name of the target region "Alliance Against Nazis" which would not be allowed in the GA.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:57 am

Phrenics wrote:Thank you. But I guess it's not illegal, for SC#199 uses the term "Nazi"1. I may have posted this on the wrong forum, but the classification of RL references are the not different between the two councils2, so take this as a general question on the World Assembly3.

1What Aclion said: SC resolutions have nothing to do with GA resolutions. The proposal rules for each are very, very different.

2Then no, you can't use "Nazi", as using it would require you to use German (no Z in English "nationalism") and the resolutions must be written in English.

3Then you need to ask in Moderation subforum, not GA or SC.
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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:12 pm

What happened to the illegal proposals thread? Did GenSec kill that?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:17 pm

It has fallen to the second page. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=370075&p=30533789#p30533789

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Postby The Cuatmono Regions » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:24 pm

Does anyone know if there are any bills that have been passed regarding to restricting abortion?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:38 pm

The Cuatmono Regions wrote:Does anyone know if there are any bills that have been passed regarding to restricting abortion?

Here and here. Both expand, rather than reduce, the right to have an abortion.
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